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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2023 12:05:36 GMT
My observation on this is simple: The term "wog" or "gollywog" is an offensive term for black people Simple as that I know a few blacks who are offended about men self-identifying as women where do you draw the line? It's like the Islamist and homosexuality thing. Reality clearly suggests that these things aren't compatible, but so long as they're ignored then it can be kept under wraps. Basically, I'm sure they will ignore it, because they both come under seperate groups that are micromanaged independently. SJWs are not allowed to criticise either, as they're both treated as a minority and protected species.
While you may see the world in a libertarian way, they only see groups that are there to be exploited. It's quite ironic.
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 12, 2023 12:15:54 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2023 12:31:19 GMT
It doesn't matter, red. First it was the name that was offensive, then it was the doll. They will just move from one thing to the next on a platform that accuses everything English as racist. Is anyone on here offended when the EUtrash on here refer to all Leave supporters as The Gammons today? I'm not, but I do enjoy highlighting their hypocrisy. The words they scream, with the aim to be as offensive as possible, are just words. The issue we have are our corrupt insitutions that are rampant with these cultural Marxist cunts, because they use this fascistic system to destroy people's lives.
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 12, 2023 12:57:20 GMT
It doesn't matter, red. First it was the name that was offensive, then it was the doll. They will just move from one thing to the next on a platform that accuses everything English as racist. Is anyone on here offended when the EUtrash on here refer to all Leave supporters as The Gammons today? I'm not, but I do enjoy highlighting their hypocrisy. The words they scream, with the aim to be as offensive as possible, are just words. The issue we have are our corrupt insitutions that are rampant with these cultural Marxist cunts, because they use this fascistic system to destroy people's lives. I agree. The very people who insist the Golliwog is racist have no idea of the history behind it, not that it matters. Weak lefties, supporters of the cult that is woke, aren't interested with real history or facts. They're only interested in destroying anything they don't understand. The followers of woke have a lot in common with Nazis, and I mean that quite sincerely. When I see clueless lefties ripping down statues they disagree with and demanding that history is airbrushed and cancelled, I'm reminded of 1930's Nazi book burnings.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2023 13:15:11 GMT
om15 >> "Is offending someone a crime?"
Yes, if it is either racial, faith related or a hate crime
Toreodor >> "WOG was considered complimentary when it meant Westernised Oriental Gentleman, then people like you came along."
No it was not, and that is a figment of your imagination, the term you refer to is an invention designed to somehow justify using the highly offensive term "wog".
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Post by Dogburger on Apr 12, 2023 13:15:53 GMT
Its racist people assuming there are racist people everywhere and that they will use a doll to insult black people who don't go in the pub I'm not sure I understand your point. IMO the doll in itself is not racist, it is the way in which some people have used it and or used its name, that has in the past been racist. My point is that I see the doll as a , doll . Nothing else crosses my mind ,well it didn't until some muppet said it looked like a black man . I ask you whos the racist here the guy that owns a Golly as a doll or the guy that says it looks like Kunta Kinte and that nobody is allowed to own one ?
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Post by jonksy on Apr 12, 2023 13:19:35 GMT
om15 >> "Is offending someone a crime?"Yes, if it is either racial, faith related or a hate crime Toreodor >> "WOG was considered complimentary when it meant Westernised Oriental Gentleman, then people like you came along."No it was not, and that is a figment of your imagination, the term you refer to is an invention designed to somehow justify using the highly offensive term "wog". Watch out OM15 and Toreodor you have offended a lefty woke.
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Post by Bentley on Apr 12, 2023 13:26:04 GMT
om15 >> "Is offending someone a crime?"Yes, if it is either racial, faith related or a hate crime Toreodor >> "WOG was considered complimentary when it meant Westernised Oriental Gentleman, then people like you came along."No it was not, and that is a figment of your imagination, the term you refer to is an invention designed to somehow justify using the highly offensive term "wog". Nope. Christian’s seem to need a far higher tolerance to insults and ridicule compared with Muslims. Ill point out again that the word ‘ nigga’ is repeated constantly around popular culture now but lefties never seem to be offended by that .
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Post by see2 on Apr 12, 2023 13:36:26 GMT
It doesn't matter, red. First it was the name that was offensive, then it was the doll. They will just move from one thing to the next on a platform that accuses everything English as racist. Is anyone on here offended when the EUtrash on here refer to all Leave supporters as The Gammons today? I'm not, but I do enjoy highlighting their hypocrisy. The words they scream, with the aim to be as offensive as possible, are just words. The issue we have are our corrupt insitutions that are rampant with these cultural Marxist cunts, because they use this fascistic system to destroy people's lives. Your extremist post is what some people would expect from a Fascist lovely person. The fact that some people have used the name and or the doll in a racist way has fuck all to do with your weird nonsense of "a platform that accuses everything English as racist." EDIT It seems that "Marxist cunts" is OK but 'Fascists cunts' is not. I wonder why?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2023 13:37:39 GMT
om15 >> "Is offending someone a crime?"Yes, if it is either racial, faith related or a hate crime Toreodor >> "WOG was considered complimentary when it meant Westernised Oriental Gentleman, then people like you came along."No it was not, and that is a figment of your imagination, the term you refer to is an invention designed to somehow justify using the highly offensive term "wog". om15's question is good one, because it exposes the hypocrisy where you get to pick and choose, where associating a slab of pink meat to a white Leave supporter is OK and encouraged.
Toreodor is also correct and all you've done is prove his case. It's an acronym. To be offended by it really only exposes an emotional problem placed there by people who feed on the weakest of minds, where even context is thrown out of the window.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2023 13:46:38 GMT
om15 >> "Is offending someone a crime?"Yes, if it is either racial, faith related or a hate crime Toreodor >> "WOG was considered complimentary when it meant Westernised Oriental Gentleman, then people like you came along."No it was not, and that is a figment of your imagination, the term you refer to is an invention designed to somehow justify using the highly offensive term "wog". Nope. Christian’s seem to need a far higher tolerance to insults and ridicule compared with Muslims. Ill point out again that the word ‘ nigga’ is repeated constantly around popular culture now but lefties never seem to be offended by that . Because the Bible is different to The Quoran, for example it specifically states in the Quoran that to depict Mohamed is disrespectful. It was always my argument in the Charlie Hebdo case, that because something IS ALLOWED, it does not then follow that we should "Do It" simply to provoke anger or a response. It works both ways - Remember the outrage when a group of hot head Muslims burned Poppies ?, they knew they were not breaking the law, but they knew it would draw anger and a response. Its often said that "Theres no respect these days", and my argument has always been - Why offend someone, or a group, or a section of society if there is no real need to offend. ? SURELY THATS A RELIVANT QUESTION Its not a good enough reason to offend people, or a particular group of people, because you can Whats the need to have a comic black doll with big lips, and call it a golly wog ? ... Why would anyone associate themselves with something that could easily cause offence to a particular section of society. ?
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Post by bancroft on Apr 12, 2023 13:51:46 GMT
My late uncle was the only person I know that used the terms 'Wogs' and that was referring to him wrestling Egyptians in the desert campaign in WWII.
However knowing now they are seen as a slight on Black people and lets be honest they look more like Blacks than Egyptians I suspect the pub owners were after a bit of publicity.
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Post by Bentley on Apr 12, 2023 13:56:43 GMT
Nope. Christian’s seem to need a far higher tolerance to insults and ridicule compared with Muslims. Ill point out again that the word ‘ nigga’ is repeated constantly around popular culture now but lefties never seem to be offended by that . Because the Bible is different to The Quoran, for example it specifically states in the Quoran that to depict Mohamed is disrespectful. It was always my argument in the Charlie Hebdo case, that because something IS ALLOWED, it does not then follow that we should "Do It" simply to provoke anger or a response. It works both ways - Remember the outrage when a group of hot head Muslims burned Poppies ?, they knew they were not breaking the law, but they knew it would draw anger and a response. Its often said that "Theres no respect these days", and my argument has always been - Why offend someone, or a group, or a section of society if there is no real need to offend. ? SURELY THATS A RELIVANT QUESTION Its not a good enough reason to offend people, or a particular group of people, because you can Whats the need to have a comic black doll with big lips, and call it a golly wog ? ... Why would anyone associate themselves with something that could easily cause offence to a particular section of society. ? Utter, utter bollocks whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin” In the Bible, Leviticus 24:15–16 calls for the stoning of anyone who curses the God of Israel. You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, Blasphemy was a crime in the UK until the 1960s iirc. However whenever religion is ridiculed it almost always Christianity. Whats the point of the music and movies constantly using the word ‘ nigga’? Where is the outrage . Its because the left are very selective with whom to outraged by and outraged for. Golliwogs are no worse than Barbie and Ken dolls . All three have the potential to insult and offend but all three have the potential to be seen as a cute toy.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2023 13:56:58 GMT
Whats the need to have a comic black doll with big lips, and call it a golly wog ? ... Why would anyone associate themselves with something that could easily cause offence to a particular section of society. ? If fact is racism like evolution is unislamic, then I can only conclude that all of this is a bit backward. Neither of these things are a negative or a positive, it just is, yet you believe depicting reality as reality is offensive. It's no wonder Michael Jackson had issues, where black people are supposed to mimic white people.
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Post by see2 on Apr 12, 2023 14:02:26 GMT
It doesn't matter, red. First it was the name that was offensive, then it was the doll. They will just move from one thing to the next on a platform that accuses everything English as racist. Is anyone on here offended when the EUtrash on here refer to all Leave supporters as The Gammons today? I'm not, but I do enjoy highlighting their hypocrisy. The words they scream, with the aim to be as offensive as possible, are just words. The issue we have are our corrupt insitutions that are rampant with these cultural Marxist cunts, because they use this fascistic system to destroy people's lives. I agree. The very people who insist the Golliwog is racist have no idea of the history behind it, not that it matters. Weak lefties, supporters of the cult that is woke, aren't interested with real history or facts. They're only interested in destroying anything they don't understand. The followers of woke have a lot in common with Nazis, and I mean that quite sincerely. When I see clueless lefties ripping down statues they disagree with and demanding that history is airbrushed and cancelled, I'm reminded of 1930's Nazi book burnings. Yes, but far less threatening and for more naively foolish.
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