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Post by Montegriffo on Apr 13, 2023 12:06:01 GMT
You really are silly, if they are counting calories it is because they don't want to put weight on, if they are, as you put it 'fat', they don't care. They could become alcoholics if they think the calorie count is low. How would you nanny that? It's information not control. What you do with the information is up to you. |
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Post by buccaneer on Apr 13, 2023 12:13:29 GMT
They could become alcoholics if they think the calorie count is low. How would you nanny that? It's information not control. What you do with the information is up to you. Doesn't matter. An adverse effect of more information can lead to something much more serious. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Apr 13, 2023 12:38:29 GMT
It's information not control. What you do with the information is up to you. Doesn't matter. An adverse effect of more information can lead to something much more serious. Yeah, life's so much simpler when you stay dumb. |
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Post by Orac on Apr 13, 2023 12:56:34 GMT
They could become alcoholics if they think the calorie count is low. How would you nanny that? It's information not control. There is enforcement...ie control. If the government were merely handing out beer related pamphlets, that would be 'information' |
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Post by Montegriffo on Apr 13, 2023 13:40:47 GMT
It's information not control. There is enforcement...ie control. If the government were merely handing out beer related pamphlets, that would be 'information' No different from food labelling. Why should Red Bull or Innocent Smoothies have to print the calorie content on their products but not Grolsch or Adnams? |
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Post by Vinny on Apr 13, 2023 13:54:28 GMT
There is enforcement...ie control. If the government were merely handing out beer related pamphlets, that would be 'information' No different from food labelling. Why should Red Bull or Innocent Smoothies have to print the calorie content on their products but not Grolsch or Adnams? Buy a Grolsch bottle or an Adnams bottle and the calorie content is already there. Go and buy a drink on tap, even if it's lemonade, Coca Cola or something, and it isn't. |
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Post by Orac on Apr 13, 2023 14:00:05 GMT
There is enforcement...ie control. If the government were merely handing out beer related pamphlets, that would be 'information' No different from food labelling. Why should Red Bull or Innocent Smoothies have to print the calorie content on their products but not Grolsch or Adnams? Innocent smoothies? Uhuh I don't think anything that is prepared to be consumed on premises should have to provide such details. For instance, if someone puts a bowl of complimentary peanuts on the bar, they shouldn't have to inform everyone in the bar of the calorie content of peanuts If offer someone my last Rollo, I shouldn't have to provide a health warning. If a bar makes me a roast dinner, I don't feel they should have to evaluate the calorie content of the meal. It's just absurd control freakery. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Apr 13, 2023 16:21:17 GMT
No different from food labelling. Why should Red Bull or Innocent Smoothies have to print the calorie content on their products but not Grolsch or Adnams? Innocent smoothies? Uhuh I don't think anything that is prepared to be consumed on premises should have to provide such details. For instance, if someone puts a bowl of complimentary peanuts on the bar, they shouldn't have to inform everyone in the bar of the calorie content of peanuts If offer someone my last Rollo, I shouldn't have to provide a health warning. If a bar makes me a roast dinner, I don't feel they should have to evaluate the calorie content of the meal. It's just absurd control freakery. It's just information. It's like having the MPG or BHP figures for a car. Only you decide what to do with the information. It's so paranoid to equate it to ''control freakery''. |
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Post by Ripley on Apr 13, 2023 16:40:58 GMT
I appreciate knowing the calorie count of restaurant meals. More than once I've been surprised at how menu items compare with one another. The information can be eye-opening.
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Post by Orac on Apr 13, 2023 16:49:52 GMT
Innocent smoothies? Uhuh I don't think anything that is prepared to be consumed on premises should have to provide such details. For instance, if someone puts a bowl of complimentary peanuts on the bar, they shouldn't have to inform everyone in the bar of the calorie content of peanuts If offer someone my last Rollo, I shouldn't have to provide a health warning. If a bar makes me a roast dinner, I don't feel they should have to evaluate the calorie content of the meal. It's just absurd control freakery. It's just information. It's like having the MPG or BHP figures for a car. Only you decide what to do with the information. It's so paranoid to equate it to ''control freakery''. My point was that it involved control - which you appear to have conceded. Imo it is motivated by a wish to control, dominate and nag - ie sticking an unwanted, sticky oar of tedium into every human relationship |
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Post by sandypine on Apr 13, 2023 22:09:27 GMT
Innocent smoothies? Uhuh I don't think anything that is prepared to be consumed on premises should have to provide such details. For instance, if someone puts a bowl of complimentary peanuts on the bar, they shouldn't have to inform everyone in the bar of the calorie content of peanuts If offer someone my last Rollo, I shouldn't have to provide a health warning. If a bar makes me a roast dinner, I don't feel they should have to evaluate the calorie content of the meal. It's just absurd control freakery. It's just information. It's like having the MPG or BHP figures for a car. Only you decide what to do with the information. It's so paranoid to equate it to ''control freakery''. I had a book once called the Walking diet that had rough estimates of what the calorie count of many food items and meals were. It was a rough and ready guide and sufficient information for losing weight slowly, the best way for a healthy body. This was information I carried in my head, and checked at home if necessary. If one is concerned enough and wants precise information on meals out then it is probably best if one does not go for meals out as they are bound to be a good few miles of walking. One slice of bread and butter is about a mile's worth, a pig out in a restaurant can easily be ten miles worth. Everyone knows that beer bellies exist, if one does not want one then go easy on the beer, knowing the calorie count is immaterial and just another way for the government to put a spoke in enjoyment by inflicting guilt and extra cost on the long suffering pub goers. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Apr 15, 2023 20:40:58 GMT
It's just information. It's like having the MPG or BHP figures for a car. Only you decide what to do with the information. It's so paranoid to equate it to ''control freakery''. I had a book once called the Walking diet that had rough estimates of what the calorie count of many food items and meals were. It was a rough and ready guide and sufficient information for losing weight slowly, the best way for a healthy body. This was information I carried in my head, and checked at home if necessary. If one is concerned enough and wants precise information on meals out then it is probably best if one does not go for meals out as they are bound to be a good few miles of walking. One slice of bread and butter is about a mile's worth, a pig out in a restaurant can easily be ten miles worth. Everyone knows that beer bellies exist, if one does not want one then go easy on the beer, knowing the calorie count is immaterial and just another way for the government to put a spoke in enjoyment by inflicting guilt and extra cost on the long suffering pub goers. When you get to my stage, one metre of altitude = 1 calorie. Jeez that means getting me to cruising altitude requires the expenditure of ten pounds of lard I see the way to lose weight is make easyjet pedal powered |
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