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Post by see2 on Apr 13, 2023 13:55:57 GMT
Already have - they claim they are going to use the money that is raised by a windfall tax - money that was already promised to cutting energy bills. We are going to see more and more of this as the election gets closer, Labour make spending commitments using money they have already spent several times over. And regurgitating old ideas as if the were new ideas......Blair Mk2. Politicians of both parties maybe. That's the honest position  |
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Post by Bentley on Apr 13, 2023 13:57:48 GMT
YES THE POSTER TOLD A LIE!!! This is why many people have a problem with the poster, it doesn't list Tory failures on sexual assault cases, it instead says that Sunak PERSONALLY doesn't want offenders locked up. Answer one simple question, do you believe that Sunak (a father of two girls) PERSONALLY believes that adults who sexually assault children should avoid jail if convicted? If you answer yes then you might as well leave this forum because you have lost all credibility. Proof that the Poster lied, please. That is the Poster, not any Tory style insinuation that might accompany the Poster. Your post insinuates that Sunak has sympathy for sexual offenders. Have you any evidence to support that Sunak personally believes that adults who sexually assault children should avoid jail if convicted? |
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Post by see2 on Apr 13, 2023 14:05:39 GMT
I'm not a Labour spokesperson, but it took me 20 seconds to find this on their website : View AttachmentThey already spent the windfall tax on reducing energy bills - now they are going to spend it again reducing council tax. What bills will this magical money tree fund a cut in next week?  So Starmer's proposal for a windfall tax was in Jan 2022, that makes your posted denigration untrue. |
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Post by see2 on Apr 13, 2023 14:15:17 GMT
Proof that the Poster lied, please. That is the Poster, not any Tory style insinuation that might accompany the Poster. Your post insinuates that Sunak has sympathy for sexual offenders. Have you any evidence to support that Sunak personally believes that adults who sexually assault children should avoid jail if convicted? My post insinuates no such thing, my post is positively focused on the clarification of the Poster. As you can't answer the request in my post then don't use my post to suit your own devious deviated choice. You should stick your deviation up some dark place of your own. |
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Post by Bentley on Apr 13, 2023 14:31:56 GMT
Your post insinuates that Sunak has sympathy for sexual offenders. Have you any evidence to support that Sunak personally believes that adults who sexually assault children should avoid jail if convicted? My post insinuates no such thing, my post is positively focused on the clarification of the Poster. As you can't answer the request in my post then don't use my post to suit your own devious deviated choice. You should stick your deviation up some dark place of your own. It does exactly that. Your problem is that you are too immature to realise it. |
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Post by see2 on Apr 13, 2023 14:48:23 GMT
My post insinuates no such thing, my post is positively focused on the clarification of the Poster. As you can't answer the request in my post then don't use my post to suit your own devious deviated choice. You should stick your deviation up some dark place of your own. It does exactly that. Your problem is that you are too immature to realise it. So you are stuck with your own mindless silliness again, hard luck. |
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Post by Bentley on Apr 13, 2023 14:50:18 GMT
It does exactly that. Your problem is that you are too immature to realise it. So you are stuck with your own mindless silliness again, hard luck. No. I am stuck with an elderly yet immature poster projecting at me. |
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Post by dodgydave on Apr 14, 2023 0:20:02 GMT
YES THE POSTER TOLD A LIE!!! This is why many people have a problem with the poster, it doesn't list Tory failures on sexual assault cases, it instead says that Sunak PERSONALLY doesn't want offenders locked up. Answer one simple question, do you believe that Sunak (a father of two girls) PERSONALLY believes that adults who sexually assault children should avoid jail if convicted? If you answer yes then you might as well leave this forum because you have lost all credibility. Proof that the Poster lied, please. That is the Poster, not any Tory style insinuation that might accompany the Poster. Proof that the poster lied... just fucking read it lol: "Do you think adults convicted of sexually assaulting children should go to prison? Rishi Sunak Doesn't" Followed by Sunak's signature lol. Seen as you keep defending the poster, you must think Sunak PERSONALLY believes that child rapists should avoid prison. Tory insinuation eh, so David Blunkett, John McDonnell and Yvette Cooper are really Tory sleeper agents are they? lol. |
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Post by see2 on Apr 14, 2023 9:06:35 GMT
Proof that the Poster lied, please. That is the Poster, not any Tory style insinuation that might accompany the Poster. Proof that the poster lied... just fucking read it lol: "Do you think adults convicted of sexually assaulting children should go to prison? Rishi Sunak Doesn't" Followed by Sunak's signature lol. Seen as you keep defending the poster, you must think Sunak PERSONALLY believes that child rapists should avoid prison. Tory insinuation eh, so David Blunkett, John McDonnell and Yvette Cooper are really Tory sleeper agents are they? lol. I read it, which is why I ask YOU the question. If you can't see the fucking obvious reason behind my question then don't make a false reply. |
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Post by dodgydave on Apr 14, 2023 13:01:30 GMT
Proof that the poster lied... just fucking read it lol: "Do you think adults convicted of sexually assaulting children should go to prison? Rishi Sunak Doesn't" Followed by Sunak's signature lol. Seen as you keep defending the poster, you must think Sunak PERSONALLY believes that child rapists should avoid prison. Tory insinuation eh, so David Blunkett, John McDonnell and Yvette Cooper are really Tory sleeper agents are they? lol. I read it, which is why I ask YOU the question. If you can't see the fucking obvious reason behind my question then don't make a false reply. You want me to prove a negative? That is literally impossible lol. The ad clearly says that Sunak PERSONALLY believes something that literally nobody in the country would believe. When the question "do you think Sunak personally believe child rapists should avoid prison?" is put to Labour or their supporters, not a single person will say yes. Instead you all lie behind "they are only doing what the Tories do". AND YOU ARE THE GROWN UPS IN THE ROOM? lol. Come on, have the courage of your convictions, confirm to us all that you think Sunak PERSONALLY believes child rapists should avoid prison. They also lie in the other advert too, Non-Dom status is not a "tax loophole". Non-Dom is an intention tax status designed for people who are undecided if they going to make the UK their permanent home, so they pay tax on UK earning HERE, and on their foreign earnings in another country... and they cannot bring any of that income into the UK. You can argue that status shouldn't be allowed, which is fine, but IT IS A LIE to call it a loophole. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2023 20:17:05 GMT
I read it, which is why I ask YOU the question. If you can't see the fucking obvious reason behind my question then don't make a false reply. You want me to prove a negative? That is literally impossible lol. The ad clearly says that Sunak PERSONALLY believes something that literally nobody in the country would believe. When the question "do you think Sunak personally believe child rapists should avoid prison?" is put to Labour or their supporters, not a single person will say yes. Instead you all lie behind "they are only doing what the Tories do". AND YOU ARE THE GROWN UPS IN THE ROOM? lol. Come on, have the courage of your convictions, confirm to us all that you think Sunak PERSONALLY believes child rapists should avoid prison. They also lie in the other advert too, Non-Dom status is not a "tax loophole". Non-Dom is an intention tax status designed for people who are undecided if they going to make the UK their permanent home, so they pay tax on UK earning HERE, and on their foreign earnings in another country... and they cannot bring any of that income into the UK. You can argue that status shouldn't be allowed, which is fine, but IT IS A LIE to call it a loophole. It is certainly misleading, to say the least. I would call it an outright lie. www.nationalworld.com/news/politics/labour-attack-ad-fact-check-did-4500-adults-convicted-of-sexually-assaulting-children-escape-prison-4102649 |
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