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Post by jonksy on Apr 11, 2023 7:45:25 GMT
Is it? So you will beable to prove different then. But I won't be holding my breath. Come on, you're not that thick. YOU made the allegation. YOU prove it's true, or withdraw it. It's not up to me to prove it's not true. Its not an aligation known only to I. And as for title of this thread just watch this space. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 11, 2023 7:51:01 GMT
Starmer has been an absolute idiot on this one. He has stood by a poster that is absolute nonsense, which is going to excuse the nonsense he gets back. How can he now complain about smears against him on failing to prosecute Saville and grooming gangs, when he has just doubled down on Labour doing the same to Sunak? To make it even worse, the fucking idiot was on the group that decides how sentences will be applied haha. He has lost all moral authority now, and he has opened the floodgates for personal attacks on him and his fellow Labour MPs. Personally, I think he has to go. He is rapidly turning a landslide into a hung parliament. If he had any sense, which we know he hasn't, he should have kept quiet, he's opened up his own can of worms.
Those who would be too young to know what a cock-up he made when he was DPP, and how he let a serial deranged pedophile off the hook, will all come to light now.
The media should have a field day with this, for him to have the brass neck and accuse Sunak of something he was far more guilty of is just brazen outright hypocrisy.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2023 7:53:04 GMT
Some of us who were actually in the party at the time spotted Starmer's brand of "honesty" and "integrity" early on, and have been drawing attention to it ever since. It is the same brand of honesty and integrity you might expect from a dodgy used car salesman. His opponents will naturally keep drawing everyone's attention to it as the election nears, all his opponents, not just us on the left. The right wing tabloids will do a number on him and as the message sinks home his poll lead will diminish. Many people do not want to be led by yet another blatant liar prepared to say anything to get elected and meaning none of it. Some of those in the party at the time were so biased that they attacked the moderate left with a hatred that is quite disturbing to normal people. Their apparent need to attack and condemn the moderates is a testament to their own weakness of mind. You are so utterly biased that you cannot recognise reality. You so called "moderates" were such a bunch of extremists that you wasted far more time attacking the left than you did the Tories, undermining your own party's electoral chances. You personally even voted Tory in 2019. So the genuine moderate left will never have any truck with fake lefties like you and New Labour. |
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Post by see2 on Apr 11, 2023 7:54:45 GMT
Starmer has been an absolute idiot on this one. He has stood by a poster that is absolute nonsense, which is going to excuse the nonsense he gets back. How can he now complain about smears against him on failing to prosecute Saville and grooming gangs, when he has just doubled down on Labour doing the same to Sunak? To make it even worse, the fucking idiot was on the group that decides how sentences will be applied haha. He has lost all moral authority now, and he has opened the floodgates for personal attacks on him and his fellow Labour MPs. Personally, I think he has to go. He is rapidly turning a landslide into a hung parliament. Did the poster tell a lie? Or are you just determined to make a fool of yourself again? Those with an iota of common sense KNOW that the smears against Starmer over Saville are lies that are posted with no proof, just opinion. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2023 7:58:35 GMT
States someone who thought starmer was innocent over his piss up. I didn't think it I believe it, so do the police, but of course your hatred knows better.🤣 |
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Post by see2 on Apr 11, 2023 8:04:02 GMT
Some of those in the party at the time were so biased that they attacked the moderate left with a hatred that is quite disturbing to normal people. Their apparent need to attack and condemn the moderates is a testament to their own weakness of mind. You are so utterly biased that you cannot recognise reality. You so called "moderates" were such a bunch of extremists that you wasted far more time attacking the left than you did the Tories, undermining your own party's electoral chances. You personally even voted Tory in 2019. So the genuine moderate left will never have any truck with fake lefties like you and New Labour. And you personally have threatened to vote for an actual non-socialist party, i.e. 'cut off your nose to spite your face'. Ha ha, thanks, your post prove the allegations in my post. If only you were half as clever as you think your are. Moderates are fake lefties ha ha ha, that says it all, just duck back down into your HARD LEFT BOX, and keep on promoting 'opposition bench polishers' so that working people will continue to be harassed by Tory governments. |
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Post by jonksy on Apr 11, 2023 8:06:19 GMT
Starmer has been an absolute idiot on this one. He has stood by a poster that is absolute nonsense, which is going to excuse the nonsense he gets back. How can he now complain about smears against him on failing to prosecute Saville and grooming gangs, when he has just doubled down on Labour doing the same to Sunak? To make it even worse, the fucking idiot was on the group that decides how sentences will be applied haha. He has lost all moral authority now, and he has opened the floodgates for personal attacks on him and his fellow Labour MPs. Personally, I think he has to go. He is rapidly turning a landslide into a hung parliament. If he had any sense, which we know he hasn't, he should have kept quiet, he's opened up his own can of worms.
Those who would be too young to know what a cock-up he made when he was DPP, and how he let a serial deranged pedophile off the hook, will all come to light now.
The media should have a field day with this, for him to have the brass neck and accuse Sunak of something he was far more guilty of is just brazen outright hypocrisy.
After 3 years as leader of the opposition, Starmer still has no policies and decides to attack the government for accepting his own policies whilst Director of Public Prosecutions. You simply couldn't make it up........Come the election this guy will come under a lot more scrutiny and the BBC will not be able to hide!!.....
What about your own role in child sex sentencing Starmer?... Starmer under pressure to come clean on his part in drawing up guidelines for sentencing paedophiles amid storm over Labour attack ads on Rishi Sunak Labour has faced days of condemnation for a series of 'attack ads' against Sunak Ads claim PM does not think child sex abusers or thieves should go to prison
Starmer is facing fresh pressure to come clean on his role in deciding sentencing guidelines for child sex abusers.
Labour has faced days of condemnation for a series of 'attack ads' which claim Rishi Sunak does not think child sex abusers or thieves should go to prison.
Last night Sir Keir broke his silence amid the backlash to say he stands by 'every word Labour has said' on crime – even if it makes people 'squeamish'.
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Post by jonksy on Apr 11, 2023 8:15:06 GMT
And just to keep to this thread title yes he can stoop even lower, please note Mr Brown.......Starmer Still not bothered about promoting actual labour policies then? The public have been waiting for over a decade to hear a labour policy that's worth voting for and it looks like we'll have to wait another decade before the party understands that we want to vote for SOMETHING not against everything. Labour to launch fresh attack on Rishi Sunak by accusing his family of benefiting from loophole while raising taxes for working people, as party digs in on ‘gutter politics’ adverts aimed at Prime Minister Labour are to share a fourth attack ad on the PM regarding tax loopholes This follows fury sparked by the party regarding a sexual assault on children ad www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11958161/Labour-attack-Rishi-Sunak-accusing-family-benefiting-loophole-raising-taxes.html |
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 11, 2023 8:16:47 GMT
If he had any sense, which we know he hasn't, he should have kept quiet, he's opened up his own can of worms.
Those who would be too young to know what a cock-up he made when he was DPP, and how he let a serial deranged pedophile off the hook, will all come to light now.
The media should have a field day with this, for him to have the brass neck and accuse Sunak of something he was far more guilty of is just brazen outright hypocrisy.
After 3 years as leader of the opposition, Starmer still has no policies and decides to attack the government for accepting his own policies whilst Director of Public Prosecutions. You simply couldn't make it up........Come the election this guy will come under a lot more scrutiny and the BBC will not be able to hide!!.....
What about your own role in child sex sentencing Starmer?... Starmer under pressure to come clean on his part in drawing up guidelines for sentencing paedophiles amid storm over Labour attack ads on Rishi Sunak Labour has faced days of condemnation for a series of 'attack ads' against Sunak Ads claim PM does not think child sex abusers or thieves should go to prison
Starmer is facing fresh pressure to come clean on his role in deciding sentencing guidelines for child sex abusers.
Labour has faced days of condemnation for a series of 'attack ads' which claim Rishi Sunak does not think child sex abusers or thieves should go to prison.
Last night Sir Keir broke his silence amid the backlash to say he stands by 'every word Labour has said' on crime – even if it makes people 'squeamish'.
The media should go to town on this hypocrisy, if it was Johnson they would have, why do they give Starmer/Labour a easy ride?
Starmer's total incompetence as DPP not only let Savile off the hook there was others to, it was clear as day he was shielding certain people, it was even rumoured Mountbatten was one of them ... and we wouldn't want to go down that road, would we.
Savile was going to take down the establishment, and Starmer was part of the plot to stop him, and he stopped him by letting him get on with his kiddie fiddling, Starmer is a disgusting piece of work who should be arrested for corruption in high office.
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Post by see2 on Apr 11, 2023 8:17:19 GMT
If he had any sense, which we know he hasn't, he should have kept quiet, he's opened up his own can of worms.
Those who would be too young to know what a cock-up he made when he was DPP, and how he let a serial deranged pedophile off the hook, will all come to light now.
The media should have a field day with this, for him to have the brass neck and accuse Sunak of something he was far more guilty of is just brazen outright hypocrisy.
After 3 years as leader of the opposition, Starmer still has no policies and decides to attack the government for accepting his own policies whilst Director of Public Prosecutions. You simply couldn't make it up........Come the election this guy will come under a lot more scrutiny and the BBC will not be able to hide!!.....
What about your own role in child sex sentencing Starmer?... Starmer under pressure to come clean on his part in drawing up guidelines for sentencing paedophiles amid storm over Labour attack ads on Rishi Sunak Labour has faced days of condemnation for a series of 'attack ads' against Sunak Ads claim PM does not think child sex abusers or thieves should go to prison
Starmer is facing fresh pressure to come clean on his role in deciding sentencing guidelines for child sex abusers.
Labour has faced days of condemnation for a series of 'attack ads' which claim Rishi Sunak does not think child sex abusers or thieves should go to prison.
Last night Sir Keir broke his silence amid the backlash to say he stands by 'every word Labour has said' on crime – even if it makes people 'squeamish'.
Just more distorted OPINIONS, that is all you righties have. |
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Post by Toreador on Apr 11, 2023 8:19:18 GMT
.....but very belatedly and she and Dromey should never have gone along with it. In hindsight I agree, initially I did think she had a case for free speech in controlled circumstances, and the exposure that came with it. Many of us didn't wait for hindsight, we always knew both werre rather silly, naive people. |
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Post by jonksy on Apr 11, 2023 8:51:34 GMT
States someone who thought starmer was innocent over his piss up. so do the police, but of course your hatred knows better.🤣 Then you are a total tool. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 11, 2023 8:53:45 GMT
States someone who thought starmer was innocent over his piss up. I didn't think it I believe it, so do the police, but of course your hatred knows better.🤣 Strange how the blackmailed become the blackmailers, imagine all the info Starmer has on the kiddie fiddlers who are still alive and kicking, I'd say he was well connected to make beergate go away. |
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Post by Toreador on Apr 11, 2023 9:46:17 GMT
Listen up Mr. Brown. I couldn't say with any certainty that Fairsociety's version is correct but what I can say, with considerable certainty, is that mainstream party politicians will connive, tell lies and commit other jiggery pokery, either of their own volition or on instruction from above, including the party whips. I've met and/or questioned many politicians, some at the top of the game but I've only met one who I would say was totally honest and he lasted one term in office. That's since I became what you might call politics aware over 70 years ago and I've been trying to get hold of footage from a sixties TV series called "The Interlocutor", including writing to the presenter, Michael Mansfield. Since I've got nowhere I suspect the footage was destroyed on the basis it was too embarrassing for politicians, civil servants and other charlatans of all main parties.. Oh I don't doubt. I even gave him the chance to provide evidence, rather than just dismissing what he said, as I wasn't saying it was impossible. However, he then admitted it was just an opinion dressed up as fact, something he does often. I call it "making things up". You can call it how you see it. I can see how people might "make things up" when I look at the evidence of the skullduggery that occurs in the political world; read my original post again, then read this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paedophile_Information_Exchange |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2023 10:35:45 GMT
I didn't think it I believe it, so do the police, but of course your hatred knows better.🤣 Then you are a total tool. Why because I believe what the police saying after they reviewed the evidence? Do you wear a tinfoil hat like the rest of the conspiracy theory fraternity?😂 |
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