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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 8, 2023 0:19:59 GMT
I have a sneaking suspicion the Starmer is going to lose the next election.
Rishi is quietly beavering away at fixing the country's main problems, so when the election comes around it will be a case of real results vs bullshit. The thing is you can't attack real results because if you do then people will turn around and say, well Starmer, I'm glad Rishi did this and did that. Labour do not have a clue how to turn the economy around, so they will do the thick thing and just do the attack dog routine. Sure it worked with Johnson because he was a genuine menace that starmer outed, but you can't prosecute an achievement.
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Post by Bentley on Apr 8, 2023 9:32:48 GMT
I have a sneaking suspicion the Starmer is going to lose the next election. Rishi is quietly beavering away at fixing the country's main problems, so when the election comes around it will be a case of real results vs bullshit. The thing is you can't attack real results because if you do then people will turn around and say, well Starmer, I'm glad Rishi did this and did that. Labour do not have a clue how to turn the economy around, so they will do the thick thing and just do the attack dog routine. Sure it worked with Johnson because he was a genuine menace that starmer outed, but you can't prosecute an achievement. Indeed. I’ve said as much in previous posts. If Rishi can make some significant improvements in the economy and smooth a few things over with the EU , the Tories stand a chance of winning . Labour has nowhere else to go but follow Starmer . |
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 8, 2023 10:54:59 GMT
Yes, Starmer/Rayner will regret ousting out Johnson, I think by the next GE Johnson would have burnt himself out anyway.
but in their eagerness they never stopped to think that the next Tory leader could put the Tories together again, and set Labour back.
What's the old saying ... be careful what you wish for.
I think Starmer/Rayner will be kicking themselves now. Sunak has a few mountains to climb, the most obvious is sorting out this illegal migrant crisis, Brexit shouldn't be as difficult, but he needs to start working on them now, or time will run out for him.
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Post by Bentley on Apr 8, 2023 11:02:08 GMT
I’ve said that Starmer and Rayners political strategy was to keep repeating ‘ Arent Tories horrid’ and nothing has changed.
Labour is bereft of any substance . They are the party of identity politics and whatever woke bandwagon is around at the time .
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2023 11:38:00 GMT
Blair was Thatcher's secret weapon, like finds like. Savile was a friend of the Tories. Blair was the leader of the Labour Party and PM of a Labour government. Saville had friends in Labour. Blair did not invite Savile for a Christmas bash. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2023 11:41:54 GMT
Jimmy Savile WAS a Tory, he supported the Tory Party <-- Fact
However, lets start been grown up about this instead of acting like children
I do not believe that Savile s friend Margaret Thatcher or Tony Blair ever covered up his crimes, and I state that as someone who detested Margaret Thatcher.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 8, 2023 12:23:38 GMT
Yes, Starmer/Rayner will regret ousting out Johnson, I think by the next GE Johnson would have burnt himself out anyway. but in their eagerness they never stopped to think that the next Tory leader could put the Tories together again, and set Labour back. What's the old saying ... be careful what you wish for. I think Starmer/Rayner will be kicking themselves now. Sunak has a few mountains to climb, the most obvious is sorting out this illegal migrant crisis, Brexit shouldn't be as difficult, but he needs to start working on them now, or time will run out for him. It's amazing how many problems you can fix with intelligence. I think that plane sat on the runway with lawyers preventing its take off was a classic symbol of failure, but now the government have found a way around the scamming bastards. It had something to do with claims of slavery (a lawyers ruse of course). The Rwandan government are really keen to make this work as well so they helped modify the agreement to get around the lawyer trick. I feel the net is really closing in on them now. Their hotel accommodation will be downgraded too. |
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Post by Bentley on Apr 8, 2023 13:14:38 GMT
Blair was the leader of the Labour Party and PM of a Labour government. Saville had friends in Labour. Blair did not invite Savile for a Christmas bash. He invited him to chequers . It didn’t matter what ‘ bash’ it was. Saville had friends in the Labour Party. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 8, 2023 13:33:26 GMT
Yes, Starmer/Rayner will regret ousting out Johnson, I think by the next GE Johnson would have burnt himself out anyway. but in their eagerness they never stopped to think that the next Tory leader could put the Tories together again, and set Labour back. What's the old saying ... be careful what you wish for. I think Starmer/Rayner will be kicking themselves now. Sunak has a few mountains to climb, the most obvious is sorting out this illegal migrant crisis, Brexit shouldn't be as difficult, but he needs to start working on them now, or time will run out for him. It's amazing how many problems you can fix with intelligence. I think that plane sat on the runway with lawyers preventing its take off was a classic symbol of failure, but now the government have found a way around the scamming bastards. It had something to do with claims of slavery (a lawyers ruse of course). The Rwandan government are really keen to make this work as well so they helped modify the agreement to get around the lawyer trick. I feel the net is really closing in on them now. Their hotel accommodation will be downgraded too. What a brass neck Starmer has, his time as a warrior human rights lawyer fought long hard campaigns to keep foreign criminals from being deported... I really don't know where this man gets the nerve from.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2023 13:53:23 GMT
Blair did not invite Savile for a Christmas bash. He invited him to chequers . It didn’t matter what ‘ bash’ it was. Saville had friends in the Labour Party. He might have been asking him if he was a pervert, the point is no one knows but what we do know was that Savile spent Christmases with Thatcher. Savile was a 'friend' of the Tories. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2023 13:55:00 GMT
Blair did not invite Savile for a Christmas bash. He invited him to chequers . It didn’t matter what ‘ bash’ it was. Saville had friends in the Labour Party. Tories! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2023 14:03:08 GMT
It's amazing how many problems you can fix with intelligence. I think that plane sat on the runway with lawyers preventing its take off was a classic symbol of failure, but now the government have found a way around the scamming bastards. It had something to do with claims of slavery (a lawyers ruse of course). The Rwandan government are really keen to make this work as well so they helped modify the agreement to get around the lawyer trick. I feel the net is really closing in on them now. Their hotel accommodation will be downgraded too. What a brass neck Starmer has, his time as a warrior human rights lawyer fought long hard campaigns to keep foreign criminals from being deported... I really don't know where this man gets the nerve from.
The answer is within the Express story, the article clearly states that at least some of the detainees did not recieve proper access to legal advice, therefore any lawyer would rightly conclude that a misjustice or miscarriage of justice was at the least, possible. Once again, and as with the migrants crossing the Channel, the government gets egg on its face because they fail to follow proper due process. The point here is that if the law CAN be used against you, then it probably will be, so why did the government at the time not make sure that their case to deport criminals was watertight. Secondly - all this happened in the immediate aftermath of The Windrush Scandal, and again, a scandal that could have been wholly avoided if the government had done things PROPERLY. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 8, 2023 14:06:03 GMT
What a brass neck Starmer has, his time as a warrior human rights lawyer fought long hard campaigns to keep foreign criminals from being deported... I really don't know where this man gets the nerve from.
The answer is within the Express story, the article clearly states that at least some of the detainees did not recieve proper access to legal advice, therefore any lawyer would rightly conclude that a misjustice or miscarriage of justice was at the least, possible. Once again, and as with the migrants crossing the Channel, the government gets egg on its face because they fail to follow proper due process. The point here is that if the law CAN be used against you, then it probably will be, so why did the government at the time not make sure that their case to deport criminals was watertight. Secondly - all this happened in the immediate aftermath of The Windrush Scandal, and again, a scandal that could have been wholly avoided if the government had done things PROPERLY. That's a shame, good job the good old UK tax payers were there to fund the crusade. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2023 14:31:47 GMT
He invited him to chequers . It didn’t matter what ‘ bash’ it was. Saville had friends in the Labour Party. Tories! OOPs 😂 |
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Post by Bentley on Apr 8, 2023 14:37:55 GMT
He invited him to chequers . It didn’t matter what ‘ bash’ it was. Saville had friends in the Labour Party. He might have been asking him if he was a pervert, the point is no one knows but what we do know was that Savile spent Christmases with Thatcher. Savile was a 'friend' of the Tories. Saville spent some time at Chequers while Tony Blair was PM. Saville had friends in the Labour Party. |
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