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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 5, 2023 11:04:34 GMT
Ah so you've decided on Reform, good man. I definitely won't be voting for them either. If there is a socialist candidate I will vote for them. If not, then Green. If there are no better alternatives I would even vote Lib Dem. Never anything right wing like Reform or the Tories, and never Starmer's Labour. There was a time you could distinguish between left Labour - right Tories, there isn't much between them now, the right are fading fast, we'll soon have the choice between two lefty main parties, the Tories need to get their act together, and quick, who are they batting for? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2023 11:56:04 GMT
Or, they left it to the police as they should do. If powerful people know that Saville was abusing children then they should of forced the police to act . Labour is no less to blame for Saville getting away with his crimes than the Tories. That doesn’t stop certain little weasels trying to insinuate that the only the Tories protected him. ukpoliticsdebate.boards.net/post/79793/threadYou slip between 'powerful people' and 'the Labour party' like a nymph through daffodils.🤣 linkSavile was a friend of the Tories. |
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Post by Bentley on Apr 5, 2023 12:04:11 GMT
If powerful people know that Saville was abusing children then they should of forced the police to act . Labour is no less to blame for Saville getting away with his crimes than the Tories. That doesn’t stop certain little weasels trying to insinuate that the only the Tories protected him. ukpoliticsdebate.boards.net/post/79793/threadYou slip between 'powerful people' and 'the Labour party' like a nymph through daffodils.🤣 linkSavile was a friend of the Tories. Your insinuation that only the Tories protected Saville was like a moron posting on a political forum . Labour was in office during Savilles crimes . They protected him too. |
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Post by see2 on Apr 5, 2023 12:19:58 GMT
You have had my explanation, which no longer requires me to 'read the relevant posts' but you still insist on posting your silliness. Sadly, only to be expected. You didn’t explain at all. You gave yourself half an excuse and asked the same lazy question without bothering to find it yourself . Then you topped it all by posting yet another projection. Back to school for you. |
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Post by Toreador on Apr 5, 2023 12:21:59 GMT
You didn’t explain at all. You gave yourself half an excuse and asked the same lazy question without bothering to find it yourself . Then you topped it all by posting yet another projection. Back to school for you. Welcome back see2.  |
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Post by Bentley on Apr 5, 2023 12:25:58 GMT
You didn’t explain at all. You gave yourself half an excuse and asked the same lazy question without bothering to find it yourself . Then you topped it all by posting yet another projection. Back to school for you. Oh the irony .😁 |
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Post by see2 on Apr 5, 2023 12:40:16 GMT
Ah so you've decided on Reform, good man. I definitely won't be voting for them either. If there is a socialist candidate I will vote for them. If not, then Green. If there are no better alternatives I would even vote Lib Dem. Never anything right wing like Reform or the Tories, and never Starmer's Labour. Confusion, that's what can happen when people hold hard fixed opinions. Fixed opinions are all too often fixed by feelings not logic. The problems with feelings is that they are emotional / hormonal reactions that arise from the sensory system, they cannot apply logic nor can they rationalise. Personally I don't care if Starmer never becomes PM, I have seen too much stupidity by too many eligible voters over the years to concern myself with the outcome of the election, especially at my time of life. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2023 13:44:51 GMT
You slip between 'powerful people' and 'the Labour party' like a nymph through daffodils.🤣 linkSavile was a friend of the Tories. Your insinuation that only the Tories protected Saville was like a moron posting on a political forum . Labour was in office during Savilles crimes . They protected him too. I didn't say 'only' the Tories protected Savile, the police were also to blame. The Tories were friends of Savile. |
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Post by Bentley on Apr 5, 2023 14:17:09 GMT
Your insinuation that only the Tories protected Saville was like a moron posting on a political forum . Labour was in office during Savilles crimes . They protected him too. I didn't say 'only' the Tories protected Savile, the police were also to blame. The Tories were friends of Savile. And Labour. If they knew that Saville was committing crimes while they were in office and they did nothing about it then they were protectu him. Or are you saying that the Labour government were so useless that they didn’t know ? Which one? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2023 16:00:41 GMT
I didn't say 'only' the Tories protected Savile, the police were also to blame. The Tories were friends of Savile. And Labour. If they knew that Saville was committing crimes while they were in office and they did nothing about it then they were protectu him. Or are you saying that the Labour government were so useless that they didn’t know ? Which one? You have just screwed your own argument. I would rather they were too stupid to know rather than knew and said nothing, wouldn't you? The Tories were friends of Savile and friends know 'little' secrets. |
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Post by Bentley on Apr 5, 2023 16:13:46 GMT
And Labour. If they knew that Saville was committing crimes while they were in office and they did nothing about it then they were protectu him. Or are you saying that the Labour government were so useless that they didn’t know ? Which one? You have just screwed your own argument. I would rather they were too stupid to know rather than knew and said nothing, wouldn't you? The Tories were friends of Savile and friends know 'little' secrets. No I haven’t . In fact I’ve put this to you before. It’s not about what you would ‘ rather’ , it’s about what you think of Labour . They are either totally stupid , ignorant and incompetent or conniving . You chose that former because you …wait for it ………..….‘ prefer’ that …..ffs.😂 |
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 5, 2023 16:17:52 GMT
And Labour. If they knew that Saville was committing crimes while they were in office and they did nothing about it then they were protectu him. Or are you saying that the Labour government were so useless that they didn’t know ? Which one? You have just screwed your own argument. I would rather they were too stupid to know rather than knew and said nothing, wouldn't you? The Tories were friends of Savile and friends know 'little' secrets. I've lost count how many times you've posted "The Tories were friends of Saville".
Saville was friends with most political parties he wasn't fussy, he was even pally with the roayls, he wasn't exclusively just friends with the Tories like you are trying to make out, stop being purposely contrive.
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Post by Bentley on Apr 5, 2023 16:24:54 GMT
Now firmly nestled up with the Blairs, in 1999 the couple invited McGee and his wife Kate to Chequers, for a dinner party from hell. Not because it included Dame Judi Dench or former Celtic chairman John Reid, who were also sat around the table of the prime minister’s 16th century country manor, but because the guest of honour was who we now know as one of Britain’s most prolific paedophiles: Jimmy Savile. The bizarre scene plays out in Creation Stories with the strange revelation that the Blairs were on very friendly terms with Savile, and that the child abuser was given pride of place at the table. Savile (played bravely by Alistair McGowan) then proceeds to sexually harass McGee’s wife in full view of everyone. In McGee’s autobiography, serialised in The Daily Record, he says: “At dinner, Kate was between Jimmy Savile and Judi Dench. Savile started to hit on Kate, kissing his way up her arms, kissing her fingers. “I was thinking, ‘What a dirty old man’, but at Chequers, it’s not done to break Jimmy Savile’s nose. Kate came over and said, ‘He’s a pervert’. He left her alone once she was next to me.” He added: “There was an edge to him, a quiet menace, the threat of violence. I come from Glasgow, I can tell when someone is dangerous...I’m convinced he was a gangster. “Why he was invited I don’t know. It was as if he was the host rather than Tony. It really shows the connection he had to the establishment.” www.esquire.com/uk/culture/film/a35892762/creation-stories-true-story/ |
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Post by sheepy on Apr 5, 2023 16:26:07 GMT
I definitely won't be voting for them either. If there is a socialist candidate I will vote for them. If not, then Green. If there are no better alternatives I would even vote Lib Dem. Never anything right wing like Reform or the Tories, and never Starmer's Labour. There was a time you could distinguish between left Labour - right Tories, there isn't much between them now, the right are fading fast, we'll soon have the choice between two lefty main parties, the Tories need to get their act together, and quick, who are they batting for? Like that will be happening, as they spend all of their days deciding between themselves with zero input from the electorate they will soon be wondering the voters what voters? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2023 16:57:43 GMT
You have just screwed your own argument. I would rather they were too stupid to know rather than knew and said nothing, wouldn't you? The Tories were friends of Savile and friends know 'little' secrets. No I haven’t . In fact I’ve put this to you before. It’s not about what you would ‘ rather’ , it’s about what you think of Labour . They are either totally stupid , ignorant and incompetent or conniving . You chose that former because you …wait for it ………..….‘ prefer’ that …..ffs.😂 Or maybe they couldn't do anything about it, it is the police after all that bring charges and we know Saville had 'friends' in the Tory party and the police. I asked you a question "I would rather they were too stupid to know rather than knew and said nothing" but I don't think you understood it. The Conservatives spent Christmases with Saville, you do know the saying 'running with the pack' don't ya? |
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