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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2023 20:57:01 GMT
When REAL politics and REAL policies cannot win the arguments of the day, try Gutter Politics or unfounded, unsubstantiated tripe.
Richard Scorer is Britains most successful abuse lawyer, and has been involved directly or indirectly in the prosecution of numerous child abusers. He called upon former Lib Dem leader David Steele to be stripped of his knighthood after admitting that he knew about Cyril Smith's behaviour, but did nothing.
This is what Richard Scorer said about the pathetic accusations aimed at Keir Starmer
as one of the lawyers who represented Saviles victims, I can confirm that attacks on Keir Starmer over this are totally unjustified. Starmer did more than any other DPP to advance the rights of victims. No DPP can control every decision, but the CPS was much better under his leadership.
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Post by Toreador on Apr 4, 2023 21:00:31 GMT
When REAL politics and REAL policies cannot win the arguments of the day, try Gutter Politics or unfounded, unsubstantiated tripe. Richard Scorer is Britains most successful abuse lawyer, and has been involved directly or indirectly in the prosecution of numerous child abusers. He called upon former Lib Dem leader David Steele to be stripped of his knighthood after admitting that he knew about Cyril Smith's behaviour, but did nothing. This is what Richard Scorer said about the pathetic accusations aimed at Keir Starmer as one of the lawyers who represented Saviles victims, I can confirm that attacks on Keir Starmer over this are totally unjustified. Starmer did more than any other DPP to advance the rights of victims. No DPP can control every decision, but the CPS was much better under his leadership. Starmer must have had some good people working for him making the decisions. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2023 21:22:04 GMT
A very big part of the reasons why the original charges did not stick were because of police failings, the case package was not watertight and not properly put together - nothing to do with the Crown Prosecution Service.
If you study the history of the case against Savile, you will find that it was Keir Starmer who ordered a review into the decision to not prosecute Savile.
This is "Muck Raking" and it will lead no where
Stich to real politics - not to gutter politics
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Post by see2 on Apr 5, 2023 4:30:49 GMT
You must admit that your comment on the Labour party is rather insinuative, so I am still unsure as to what was going on in your mind when you posted it. But I acknowledge, that because of the workload I am under at present, and my absence from the forum, my question might have been out of context. Only you will know so maybe ask yourself, were you insinuating that "the collective labour party are so stupid that it didn’t know about Savilles crimes?" meaning that they did know? Your question was not only out of context , it was a knee jerk reflection of your immature mindset. You still don’t understand the context of your question to me . I can only guess it is because you are either too lazy to read the relevant posts or that you realise how stupid you have made yourself look and are trying to save face by obfuscating. Either way , you have earned a ❤️. You have had my explanation, which no longer requires me to 'read the relevant posts' but you still insist on posting your silliness. Sadly, only to be expected. |
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Post by see2 on Apr 5, 2023 4:41:22 GMT
When REAL politics and REAL policies cannot win the arguments of the day, try Gutter Politics or unfounded, unsubstantiated tripe. Richard Scorer is Britains most successful abuse lawyer, and has been involved directly or indirectly in the prosecution of numerous child abusers. He called upon former Lib Dem leader David Steele to be stripped of his knighthood after admitting that he knew about Cyril Smith's behaviour, but did nothing. This is what Richard Scorer said about the pathetic accusations aimed at Keir Starmer as one of the lawyers who represented Saviles victims, I can confirm that attacks on Keir Starmer over this are totally unjustified. Starmer did more than any other DPP to advance the rights of victims. No DPP can control every decision, but the CPS was much better under his leadership. The attacks on Starmer is further proof of the Right-Wing habit of replacing the truth with insinuations and denigration. They have no genuine points to make so they use their natural political dishonesty. |
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Post by sheepy on Apr 5, 2023 7:25:24 GMT
When REAL politics and REAL policies cannot win the arguments of the day, try Gutter Politics or unfounded, unsubstantiated tripe. Richard Scorer is Britains most successful abuse lawyer, and has been involved directly or indirectly in the prosecution of numerous child abusers. He called upon former Lib Dem leader David Steele to be stripped of his knighthood after admitting that he knew about Cyril Smith's behaviour, but did nothing. This is what Richard Scorer said about the pathetic accusations aimed at Keir Starmer as one of the lawyers who represented Saviles victims, I can confirm that attacks on Keir Starmer over this are totally unjustified. Starmer did more than any other DPP to advance the rights of victims. No DPP can control every decision, but the CPS was much better under his leadership. The attacks on Starmer is further proof of the Right-Wing habit of replacing the truth with insinuations and denigration. They have no genuine points to make so they use their natural political dishonesty. Like making up that anything and everything that doesn't fit the agenda is far right and Nazi? how exactly is that working out for you? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2023 8:43:46 GMT
So you are voting for the Tories, who are even worse? I am voting for neither. Which will benefit the Conservatives. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2023 8:44:58 GMT
Did the police? Savile was a friend of the Conservatives. Don’t try to wriggle out of your accusation. If Saville was not friends with Labour then there are two reasons why they didn’t react to his crimes 1 they were too stupid to know . 2 they couldn’t be bothered or were incapable . You choose. Or, they left it to the police as they should do. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2023 8:46:08 GMT
Don’t try to wriggle out of your accusation. If Saville was not friends with Labour then there are two reasons why they didn’t react to his crimes 1 they were too stupid to know . 2 they couldn’t be bothered or were incapable . You choose. or 3 they had paedos in Labour who they didn't want exposing.
I imagine there are/were paedo's in the Labour party unfortunately they seep into all parts of society. From a Tory. link |
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 5, 2023 8:56:30 GMT
or 3 they had paedos in Labour who they didn't want exposing.
I imagine there are/were paedo's in the Labour party unfortunately they seep into all parts of society. From a Tory. linkTrue, that's because people wont speak out, what's the point of telling everyone once the perpetrators are dead. |
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Post by Bentley on Apr 5, 2023 9:07:05 GMT
Your question was not only out of context , it was a knee jerk reflection of your immature mindset. You still don’t understand the context of your question to me . I can only guess it is because you are either too lazy to read the relevant posts or that you realise how stupid you have made yourself look and are trying to save face by obfuscating. Either way , you have earned a ❤️. You have had my explanation, which no longer requires me to 'read the relevant posts' but you still insist on posting your silliness. Sadly, only to be expected. You didn’t explain at all. You gave yourself half an excuse and asked the same lazy question without bothering to find it yourself . Then you topped it all by posting yet another projection. |
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Post by Bentley on Apr 5, 2023 9:10:19 GMT
Don’t try to wriggle out of your accusation. If Saville was not friends with Labour then there are two reasons why they didn’t react to his crimes 1 they were too stupid to know . 2 they couldn’t be bothered or were incapable . You choose. Or, they left it to the police as they should do. If powerful people know that Saville was abusing children then they should of forced the police to act . Labour is no less to blame for Saville getting away with his crimes than the Tories. That doesn’t stop certain little weasels trying to insinuate that the only the Tories protected him. ukpoliticsdebate.boards.net/post/79793/thread |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2023 9:57:04 GMT
It is totally ridiculous and beyond reason to believe that either political party would deliberately go out to protect child abusers, or to protect pedophiles.
It is also stupid to think that ANY political party is either MORE likely, or LESS likely to harbour Paedophiles, or child abusers. Sadly they are in all walks of life.
What Sir David Steele did was unforgiveable, in that he failed to report to anyone what he either knew, suspected, or had been told about Cyril Smith, but I dont think that it is the same as covering up, he failed to act.
The country's leading child abuse prosecutor who has rigourously defended Keir Starmer's reputatation as head of the CPS, has publically called for David Steele s knighthood to be revoked.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2023 10:21:48 GMT
Ah so you've decided on Reform, good man. I definitely won't be voting for them either. If there is a socialist candidate I will vote for them. If not, then Green. If there are no better alternatives I would even vote Lib Dem. Never anything right wing like Reform or the Tories, and never Starmer's Labour. |
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Post by Toreador on Apr 5, 2023 11:01:08 GMT
It is totally ridiculous and beyond reason to believe that either political party would deliberately go out to protect child abusers, or to protect pedophiles. It is also stupid to think that ANY political party is either MORE likely, or LESS likely to harbour Paedophiles, or child abusers. Sadly they are in all walks of life. What Sir David Steele did was unforgiveable, in that he failed to report to anyone what he either knew, suspected, or had been told about Cyril Smith, but I dont think that it is the same as covering up, he failed to act. The country's leading child abuse prosecutor who has rigourously defended Keir Starmer's reputatation as head of the CPS, has publically called for David Steele s knighthood to be revoked. You show all the signs of lack of political nous, political parties are riddled with cover-ups of all manner of things and not just those of a sexual nature. |
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