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Post by happyjack on May 1, 2023 19:54:02 GMT
No, I am stating clearly that what you said in your previous post is untrue ie. we are not having our levers pulled by another country. Our levers are all pulled by either Westminster or Holyrood, both of which are part of our country. Westmisnter is the de facto parliament of england , with 82 % of the seats english seats , and those seats that scots dont vote for or politicians we dont elect control the majority of levers of power over our country including the economy. You really need to get that chip off of your shoulder. Westminster is the actual Parliament of the whole country, not just England - and the seats that all of us vote for and the politicians that all of us elect control all of the levers of power over all of our country including the economy, either directly or through devolving some of those powers to devolved administrations. |
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Post by thomas on May 1, 2023 20:08:35 GMT
Westmisnter is the de facto parliament of england , with 82 % of the seats english seats , and those seats that scots dont vote for or politicians we dont elect control the majority of levers of power over our country including the economy. You really need to get that chip off of your shoulder. Westminster is the actual Parliament of the whole country, not just England - and the seats that all of us vote for and the politicians that all of us elect control all of the levers of power over all of our country including the economy, either directly or through devolving some of those powers to devolved administrations. there is no chip on shoulder pointing out reality happy.
"By giving the scots a minority of seats in an english parliament , they will be powerless to operate in that parliament , but the parliament will be invested with their authority" to paraphrase an english politician
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Post by happyjack on May 1, 2023 20:26:46 GMT
but I said that I know what territory ( that level) would be in and I explained why. Then .Prove.It. And the prove it fool strikes yet again. You have read my explanation of why the outcome of certain future actions can’t be proved unless and until that action is carried out but that the consequences of such actions are still so inevitable that they are therefore truth. You know that is the case (because you are not that stupid) and you can’t argue otherwise so you just fall back on your playground “prove it”. Just saying “prove it” again isn’t going to get a different response from me or diminish the truth in what I say. Each of the things that I listed is a highly predictable consequence of Scotland leaving the UK, so although they will only be proven right if we ever do leave the UK, they are all so predictable as to be inevitable and therefore truth. If you can’t face up to that then just keep denying it to yourself if it feeds your Indy fanatic narrative to do so. Talking about proving things however, I think that your level of response is proof aplenty that you have no idea how an Indy Scotland would address the economic and financial hammering of breaking away from the UK. Until you and your Indy buddies do, you are never going to achieve what you want - so you better start getting a plan drawn up if you want to have any chance of moving the dial. |
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Post by happyjack on May 1, 2023 20:55:20 GMT
You really need to get that chip off of your shoulder. Westminster is the actual Parliament of the whole country, not just England - and the seats that all of us vote for and the politicians that all of us elect control all of the levers of power over all of our country including the economy, either directly or through devolving some of those powers to devolved administrations. there is no chip on shoulder pointing out reality happy.
"By giving the scots a minority of seats in an english parliament , they will be powerless to operate in that parliament , but the parliament will be invested with their authority" to paraphrase an english politician
I am not sure that it is necessarily true to say that “there is no chip on shoulder pointing out reality”. I am sure that it is possible to point out reality and also have a chip on your shoulder about the reality that you are pointing out. However, that is a moot point in this instance because you are not pointing out reality but engaging in your twisted alternative universe views. For example, (1) Westminster is not a de facto English Parliament but an actual Parliament for the whole country, and (2) the majority of levers of our economy are not run by another country; in fact, none of them are. These are just 2 of the realities that you deny and 2 examples of that chip on your shoulder. |
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Post by Vinny on May 2, 2023 6:21:44 GMT
It's all about hating the English with the SNATs, no matter how much they pretend otherwise.
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Post by thomas on May 2, 2023 6:42:58 GMT
And the prove it fool strikes yet again. You have read my explanation of why the outcome of certain future actions can’t be proved unless and until that action is carried out but that the consequences of such actions are still so inevitable that they are therefore truth. You know that is the case (because you are not that stupid) and you can’t argue otherwise so you just fall back on your playground “prove it”. so to translate your latest gibbering.
You tell me you cant prove what you say while insisting its likely to happen based on nothing more than your own personal whim. 
I dont believe you happy. you are telling the forum porkie pies.
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Post by thomas on May 2, 2023 6:43:51 GMT
there is no chip on shoulder pointing out reality happy.
"By giving the scots a minority of seats in an english parliament , they will be powerless to operate in that parliament , but the parliament will be invested with their authority" to paraphrase an english politician
I am not sure that it is necessarily true to say that “there is no chip on shoulder pointing out reality”. I am sure that it is possible to point out reality and also have a chip on your shoulder about the reality that you are pointing out. However, that is a moot point in this instance because you are not pointing out reality but engaging in your twisted alternative universe views. For example, (1) Westminster is not a de facto English Parliament but an actual Parliament for the whole country, and (2) the majority of levers of our economy are not run by another country; in fact, none of them are. These are just 2 of the realities that you deny and 2 examples of that chip on your shoulder. if you want to tell me i have a chip on my shoulder for pointing out reality happy then who am i to argue with your delusion? |
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Post by thomas on May 2, 2023 6:46:11 GMT
there is no chip on shoulder pointing out reality happy.
"By giving the scots a minority of seats in an english parliament , they will be powerless to operate in that parliament , but the parliament will be invested with their authority" to paraphrase an english politician
However, that is a moot point in this instance because you are not pointing out reality but engaging in your twisted alternative universe views. For example, (1) Westminster is not a de facto English Parliament but an actual Parliament for the whole country, and (2) the majority of levers of our economy are not run by another country; in fact, none of them are. These are just 2 of the realities that you deny and 2 examples of that chip on your shoulder. 1. westmisnter is the parliament of the uk multi national state. The uk isnt a single country , and one country has 82 % of the seats , and always has had a disproportionate amount of seats since the first admittance of the celtic countries .
2.prove it.
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Post by Vinny on May 2, 2023 8:57:10 GMT
Monumental chip on shoulder.
Scotland has more MPs per capita than any other part of Great Britain, Scots have far better representation at all political levels and still the SNATs grumble.
Why?
They hate the English.
They absolutely hate the English.
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Post by morayloon on May 3, 2023 6:43:16 GMT
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Post by thomas on May 3, 2023 7:32:02 GMT
he has nothing left to argue about moray , except making puerile economic predictions that he cant back up based on fantasy gers figures.
Notice how happy rarely if ever broaches the subject of brexit , the monarchy or any other contentious issues that he knows fine well has indy support through the roof?
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Post by thomas on May 3, 2023 7:32:56 GMT
its that bad now everyone is reduced to ignoring vinny sitting in the corner screaming about how everyone hates the english as he rocks back and forth shouting at himeself in a dark room.
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Post by Vinny on May 3, 2023 9:04:44 GMT
So Morayloon, you're saying that being a unionist means having a "super inflated ego", but you SNATs who think Brits in Scotland should have higher per capita representation in politics than any other voters don't have super inflated egos and exaggerated senses of self importance?
Amusing.
Scotland is not 'special' nor is England, neither should have greater per capita representation, all voters should be equal.
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Post by om15 on May 3, 2023 9:09:05 GMT
For those of us sat outside the storm of ineptitude, corruption and third word morality that is Scotland it is intriguing how a population that that has been continually lied to, stolen from and pushed into poverty still support those that did all this.
No one at all has come up with any plan about how Scotland might survive outside the UK, they don't know what they will use for money, the two income streams of oil and tourism will be shut down and there is full denial that anyone who can read, write and work will relocate south.
Ricky should grant an immediate referendum and give full support to those who wish to leave, the ensuing mess would give us all a good laugh and save us from having to finance such a tinpot outfit.
The English have always been mildly puzzled at the hatred emanating from a certain Scottish underclass, but perhaps it is time to sever the union, certainly more and more in England think so.
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Post by Vinny on May 3, 2023 9:39:41 GMT
Save for a few foam mouthed racists, the Scots on the whole don't want it.
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