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Post by jonksy on Mar 28, 2023 17:29:08 GMT
Which asylum seekers are not coming in illegally? 🤔 Why would you expect or need this? We aren't the neighbour of unstable countries from which people need to flee cross our border 8,500 Afghan refugees to be offered homes while millions of Britons are in 'housing need'
Roughly 8,500 Afghan refugees that escaped the clutches of the Taliban are to be taken out of the British hotels they are currently living in, the Government is due to announce on Tuesday. Veterans Minister Johnny Mercer is expected to tell the House of Commons that the Government is committed to finding a permanent home for the Afghan refugees, many of whom acted on behalf of Britain in Afghanistan.
MOD Evacuations Out Of Kabul
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Post by Toreador on Mar 28, 2023 17:29:14 GMT
Let's start with Gina Millar, after which an avalanche of Remnant politicians set out and, to an extent, succeeded in opposing and delaying our exit. Enter Theresa May, Tony Blair, Starmer and a host of others who I'll leave you to name, it's not difficult; well maybe you'll find it so. So just how much difference have they made to Brexit so far? They and others made a significant difference to the discussions on leaving the EU, you obviously weren't watching. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Mar 28, 2023 18:48:24 GMT
Which asylum seekers are not coming in illegally? 🤔 You tell me? Your arguement is counter productive to the genuin cases cause. None of them. There were special schemes set up for Afghanistan and Ukraine to bypass the system. Every asylum seeker has to either come in to the country irregularly, or be an overstayer. So, how does a GENUINE person seek asylum in the UK? |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 28, 2023 18:57:29 GMT
You tell me? Your arguement is counter productive to the genuin cases cause. None of them. There were special schemes set up for Afghanistan and Ukraine to bypass the system. Every asylum seeker has to either come in to the country irregularly, or be an overstayer.
So, how does a GENUINE person seek asylum in the UK? They go through the proper channels and not come over here on boats whilst destroying their documents. You can't have it both ways andy as you have supported this illegal invasion. |
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Post by sandypine on Mar 28, 2023 19:09:19 GMT
You tell me? Your arguement is counter productive to the genuin cases cause. None of them. There were special schemes set up for Afghanistan and Ukraine to bypass the system. Every asylum seeker has to either come in to the country irregularly, or be an overstayer. So, how does a GENUINE person seek asylum in the UK? With difficulty but they can seek asylum in a safe country and make an application to reside in the UK. I still do not see why GENUINE asylum seekers should be able to seek asylum in a country of their choice. It is not intended as a means to seek a better life somewhere it is, and was always intended to be, a way for desperate endangered people to seek an immediate place of safety sometimes that escape necessitated travelling illicitly across several borders. The idea is to escape danger. Making a dangerous cross channel journey in winter and spring is taking on board an additional danger for no good Convention reasons other than where they are going is where they would prefer to be. I would prefer to be in a nice quiet spot in rural sunny England but as a British Citizen I cannot afford it, so I live in wet Western Scotland which has its compensation but then we are talking preferences. Choices are often limited most especially when one is desperate. |
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Post by Steve on Mar 28, 2023 19:12:36 GMT
I refer you to Michael Gove's interview with Sophie Ridge last Sunday. To be honest there has to be, otherwise you are saying that there can be no asylum seekers. The question is how and where to do it. Surely the more relevant question is why should there be any asylum seekers amongst those who are already in safe countries? |
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Post by andrewbrown on Mar 28, 2023 19:51:24 GMT
None of them. There were special schemes set up for Afghanistan and Ukraine to bypass the system. Every asylum seeker has to either come in to the country irregularly, or be an overstayer.
So, how does a GENUINE person seek asylum in the UK? They go through the proper channels and not come over here on boats whilst destroying their documents. You can't have it both ways andy as you have supported this illegal invasion. What proper channels? |
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Post by andrewbrown on Mar 28, 2023 19:54:09 GMT
I refer you to Michael Gove's interview with Sophie Ridge last Sunday. To be honest there has to be, otherwise you are saying that there can be no asylum seekers. The question is how and where to do it. Surely the more relevant question is why should there be any asylum seekers amongst those who are already in safe countries? There may be reasons why they wish to come to the UK. Factors such as language, friends and family exist. If we were taking more than our fair share, you may have a point, similarly if they could just get on a plane and arrive here directly. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 28, 2023 20:05:17 GMT
I refer you to Michael Gove's interview with Sophie Ridge last Sunday. To be honest there has to be, otherwise you are saying that there can be no asylum seekers. The question is how and where to do it. Surely the more relevant question is why should there be any asylum seekers amongst those who are already in safe countries? I agree. But the answer is quite simple. The government insist on adhering to legislation that was penned in the shadow of WW2 when there were millions of displaced people in Europe, at the time that legislation was needed. Today that legislation is clearly not fit for purpose. Times change, so should legislation. |
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Post by sandypine on Mar 28, 2023 20:16:04 GMT
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Post by jonksy on Mar 28, 2023 20:16:25 GMT
They go through the proper channels and not come over here on boats whilst destroying their documents. You can't have it both ways andy as you have supported this illegal invasion. What proper channels? It's already been explained to you. On numerous threads on this forum. You just seem to take pleasure in contradicting your own arguement. |
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Post by sandypine on Mar 28, 2023 20:18:42 GMT
Surely the more relevant question is why should there be any asylum seekers amongst those who are already in safe countries? There may be reasons why they wish to come to the UK. Factors such as language, friends and family exist. If we were taking more than our fair share, you may have a point, similarly if they could just get on a plane and arrive here directly. We are and have taken our 'fair share'. Applications can be made for family reunion for any refugee. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 28, 2023 20:22:22 GMT
Surely the more relevant question is why should there be any asylum seekers amongst those who are already in safe countries? There may be reasons why they wish to come to the UK. Factors such as language, friends and family exist. If we were taking more than our fair share, you may have a point, similarly if they could just get on a plane and arrive here directly. Of course there are reasons they want to come to the UK, we're bloody mugs and they know it. Do they get hotel accommodation, free mobile phones and pocket money in the EU? Amnesty International don't seem to mind illegals being housed in tents and containers in the EU, but claim the British government are "Systemically bulldozing human rights in the UK". Sadly, Amnesty International are more outraged over human rights abuses in the UK than in China or North Korea. You mention language, how many English speaking countries are 'refugees' currently fleeing from? As for taking, 'our fair share', Andrew in 2007 England overtook The Netherlands to become the most densely populated country in Europe and our social infrastructure is at absolute breaking point. How many must we accept before you lefties finally agree we're full? |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 28, 2023 20:28:09 GMT
There may be reasons why they wish to come to the UK. Factors such as language, friends and family exist. If we were taking more than our fair share, you may have a point, similarly if they could just get on a plane and arrive here directly. We are and have taken our 'fair share'. Applications can be made for family reunion for any refugee.It's happening down here all the time with our Ukranian friends we have. Unfortunatley thanks to putins murderous antics some have lost all their family. We had a case down here a few weeks ago where a 14 yeat old girl threw herself off the cliffs at Dawlish because her father had been murdered by putin just weeks before it was organised that she would meet up with her Ukrain father in Poland. |
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Post by sandypine on Mar 28, 2023 20:36:57 GMT
We are and have taken our 'fair share'. Applications can be made for family reunion for any refugee.It's happening down here all the time with our Ukranian friends we have. Unfortunatley thanks to putins murderous antics some have lost all their family. We had a case down here a few weeks ago where a 14 yeat old girl threw herself off the cliffs at Dawlish because her father had been murdered by putin just weeks before it was organised that she would meet up with her Ukrain father in Poland. A sad case involving a real refugee. I was however thinking that any person claiming refugee status in France, and that is granted, can make an application to be reunited with family members in the UK or for any other reason. |
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