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Post by jonksy on Mar 28, 2023 14:45:09 GMT
A couple of things, firstly more investment overseas to ensure that the economic migration is less of a pull, and then to set up more safe and legal routes. But you also have to have sufficient staff to determine the asylum claims in a timely manner, so we don't get the ridiculous situation that we do at the minute with the hotels. There's already billions of aid being sent to Africa, There's also billions being invested in Africa.To be fair the government have also mentioned about more safe and legal routes, but have not yet outlined what these will be. If the UK governmnet do bring in exemptions for children this will have the opposite effect and children will be put in even more mortal danger to circumnavigate the rules by those who enter the UK by devious means. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 28, 2023 14:46:52 GMT
A couple of things, firstly more investment overseas to ensure that the economic migration is less of a pull, and then to set up more safe and legal routes. But you also have to have sufficient staff to determine the asylum claims in a timely manner, so we don't get the ridiculous situation that we do at the minute with the hotels. To be fair the government have also mentioned about more safe and legal routes, but have not yet outlined what these will be. I havent seen labour announce any of their policys yet apart from their usual Robin Hood methods. According to some on here he's keeping his policies quiet in case the Tories steal them LOL |
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Post by Toreador on Mar 28, 2023 14:48:45 GMT
If the UK governmnet do bring in exemptions for children this will have the opposite effect and children will be put in even more mortal danger to circumnavigate the rules by those who enter the UK by devious means. Exactly, they will be used to get into Britain and used again to get their parents, or someone pretending to be their parents into Britain. Some haven't a clue as to how the world works. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 28, 2023 14:49:35 GMT
If the UK governmnet do bring in exemptions for children this will have the opposite effect and children will be put in even more mortal danger to circumnavigate the rules by those who enter the UK by devious means. Exactly, they will be used to get into Britain and used again to get their parents, or someone pretending to be their parents into Britain. Some haven't a clue as to how the world works. Or worse still people will sell their children to the highest bidder. |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 28, 2023 14:51:34 GMT
I havent seen labour announce any of their policys yet apart from their usual Robin Hood methods. According to some on here he's keeping his policies quiet in case the Tories steal them LOL Labours policies are made up on the fly and inkeeping by ticking the boxes of the mood at the time. Starmer just tries very badly to be all thing to all the electorate. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 28, 2023 15:18:04 GMT
According to some on here he's keeping his policies quiet in case the Tories steal them LOL Labours policies are made up on the fly and inkeeping by ticking the boxes of the mood at the time. Starmer just tries very badly to be all thing to all the electorate. He's got no policies because people will know where they stand with him, and once that happens Labour will plummet in the polls, so he just says nothing, and on the rare occasions he does he always puts his foot in it, he's just a waste of space. |
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Post by see2 on Mar 28, 2023 15:45:08 GMT
In very very basic terms, yes. But Brexit is about a lot more than than just leaving. I agree. It's about making laws preventing Remnants attempting to thwart our every move. Remainers have no power to thwart any moves, any power that exists is in the hands of the government. The idea that Remainers have any power is the bullshit that the failed Brexshitters hide behind. (fire with fire  ) |
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Post by Toreador on Mar 28, 2023 15:51:51 GMT
I agree. It's about making laws preventing Remnants attempting to thwart our every move. Remainers have no power to thwart any moves, any power that exists is in the hands of the government. The idea that Remainers have any power is the bullshit that the failed Brexshitters hide behind. (fire with fire ) Let's start with Gina Millar, after which an avalanche of Remnant politicians set out and, to an extent, succeeded in opposing and delaying our exit. Enter Theresa May, Tony Blair, Starmer and a host of others who I'll leave you to name, it's not difficult; well maybe you'll find it so. |
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Post by see2 on Mar 28, 2023 15:55:51 GMT
In very very basic terms, yes. But Brexit is about a lot more than than just leaving. In actual terms . To say Brexit is a lot more than just leaving is being deliberately misleading . It is not . We can’t judge whether the act of leaving the EU was beneficial to the UK until enough time has passed to make a reasonable judgement. Are you suggesting that the suggested future over all strength of the UK and its economy played no part in the Brexit vote? Of course full judgement will take time, but that is a million miles from the claims and insinuations made in 2016. As you sow so shall you reap, so suck it up, until such time as you have something more positive to say. Time may well rescue the leavers, or we might yet see that image of Farage replacing that of Guy Fawkes on the top of bonfires. |
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Post by see2 on Mar 28, 2023 15:57:11 GMT
Remainers have no power to thwart any moves, any power that exists is in the hands of the government. The idea that Remainers have any power is the bullshit that the failed Brexshitters hide behind. (fire with fire ) Let's start with Gina Millar, after which an avalanche of Remnant politicians set out and, to an extent, succeeded in opposing and delaying our exit. Enter Theresa May, Tony Blair, Starmer and a host of others who I'll leave you to name, it's not difficult; well maybe you'll find it so. So just how much difference have they made to Brexit so far? |
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Post by Bentley on Mar 28, 2023 16:09:16 GMT
In actual terms . To say Brexit is a lot more than just leaving is being deliberately misleading . It is not . We can’t judge whether the act of leaving the EU was beneficial to the UK until enough time has passed to make a reasonable judgement. Are you suggesting that the suggested future over all strength of the UK and its economy played no part in the Brexit vote? Of course full judgement will take time, but that is a million miles from the claims and insinuations made in 2016. As you sow so shall you reap, so suck it up, until such time as you have something more positive to say. Time may well rescue the leavers, or we might yet see that image of Farage replacing that of Guy Fawkes on the top of bonfires. Of course it did but the ex remainers should start to rephrase and reframe their argument about whether the UK leaving the EU has or will potentially result in a positive outcome. Repeatedly claiming that Brexit was a failure is like repeatedly claiming that the winner of the race actually lost it. What we should be addressing is whether the medal that they won was worth the race . Not enough time has passed to make a valid conclusion. We already have a PM who is taking us in a different route regarding the EU than the previous two PMs. |
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Post by Bentley on Mar 28, 2023 16:16:07 GMT
I agree. It's about making laws preventing Remnants attempting to thwart our every move. Remainers have no power to thwart any moves, any power that exists is in the hands of the government. The idea that Remainers have any power is the bullshit that the failed Brexshitters hide behind. (fire with fire ) In theory any department head has full power and influence over their subordinates. In practise the people who work under a manager can very easily undermine them if there is a collective will to do so. The media ( including social media), civil servants , the judiciary, Educators and even the police and military have limited power and influence over a government which increases significantly the more coordinated it becomes. |
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Post by see2 on Mar 28, 2023 16:35:10 GMT
Are you suggesting that the suggested future over all strength of the UK and its economy played no part in the Brexit vote? Of course full judgement will take time, but that is a million miles from the claims and insinuations made in 2016. As you sow so shall you reap, so suck it up, until such time as you have something more positive to say. Time may well rescue the leavers, or we might yet see that image of Farage replacing that of Guy Fawkes on the top of bonfires. Of course it did but the ex remainers should start to rephrase and reframe their argument about whether the UK leaving the EU has or will potentially result in a positive outcome. Repeatedly claiming that Brexit was a failure is like repeatedly claiming that the winner of the race actually lost it. What we should be addressing is whether the medal that they won was worth the race . Not enough time has passed to make a valid conclusion. We already have a PM who is taking us in a different route regarding the EU than the previous two PMs. As I posted 'as you sow so shall you reap' and so far the bottom line is not looking good. |
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Post by see2 on Mar 28, 2023 16:36:31 GMT
Remainers have no power to thwart any moves, any power that exists is in the hands of the government. The idea that Remainers have any power is the bullshit that the failed Brexshitters hide behind. (fire with fire ) In theory any department head has full power and influence over their subordinates. In practise the people who work under a manager can very easily undermine them if there is a collective will to do so. The media ( including social media), civil servants , the judiciary, Educators and even the police and military have limited power and influence over a government which increases significantly the more coordinated it becomes. ? ? |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 28, 2023 16:44:26 GMT
And lanours policies on that are what exactly? A couple of things, firstly more investment overseas to ensure that the economic migration is less of a pull, and then to set up more safe and legal routes. But you also have to have sufficient staff to determine the asylum claims in a timely manner, so we don't get the ridiculous situation that we do at the minute with the hotels. To be fair the government have also mentioned about more safe and legal routes, but have not yet outlined what these will be. 'safe and legal' routes will only bring in more asylum seekers - we cannot cope with the amount we have now. |
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