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Post by thomas on Mar 21, 2023 16:26:08 GMT
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Listening to the summary by the Lawyers this morning and now reading their report I fail to see how any Conservative MP or indeed any MP from any other Party could possibly support this Framework agreement. It is an indictment of the spin and hype put out by Downing Street
All the brit nats and tory brexiters are lining up to take a shot at rishi the remainers sell out , and vinny calls me dishonest , while pacifico trys to sell a pig in a poke for the tory europhiles. 
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Post by thomas on Mar 21, 2023 16:28:53 GMT
What's that got to do with your claim that Northern Ireland "is still in the EU" It isn't. You were dishonest. Stop moving the goalposts and read the laws. Everyone going mad about northern ireland still being in the EU , or to save your latest puerile arguing semantics , having a different relationship to the EU than the ruk. Uk business have to ask permission to trade in a constituent part of the uk , and sign up to be trusted traders , and you waffle on and deny reality as normal.
Im sitting back with the popcorn vincent , as you and your sell out friends in tory high command fight fires on numerous fronts over the northern irish sell out.
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Post by thomas on Mar 21, 2023 16:30:32 GMT
The brits are even calling on bringing boris back to defend brexit from rishi the remainer.
...but its all a big plot of the snp and scots nats to muddy the waters of brexit. I tell you vincent your jackanory stories get bigger by the day.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2023 17:05:47 GMT
Are they? First I heard of it. Most people in decent UK believe Boris has had his day. Boris was alright at first, but then went full green and started sounding like a New Labourite. I would say the issue that a lot of people question is the fact that he was driven out because he ate some cake, whilst Scotland's Tony Blair lied to Parliament just to appease the American Hawks and drag the UK into war based on what many believe to be lies, whilst facing no action.
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 21, 2023 18:10:40 GMT
The political situation in NI is different from the UK as a whole. So Parliament decided that being in the SM was good for NI but bad for the rest of the UK. Parliament decided otherwise Howling against democracy is only going to wear out your vocal chords.. Fine. If you insist on the fallacy that the SM was good for NI but bad for the rest of the UK because Parliament decided it.  Who else is going to decide? |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 21, 2023 18:12:34 GMT
And - how insignificant regions voted is of no consequence - it's how the country as a whole voted that matters. self evidently not . Northern ireland voted remain , it got to remain.
Its not me you have to plead with and offer puerile excuses pacifico. Its your fellow tory brexiters who feel let down by the whole uk not getting brexit , not to mention your british allies in northern ireland whom your government has shafted over brexit twice over now .
As I keep telling you - thats democracy. You are going to have to stop complaining about it at some point and accept life as it is. |
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Post by Vinny on Mar 21, 2023 18:16:02 GMT
Irrelevant rubbish from Tammie.
Meanwhile, Northern Ireland isn't in the EU.
The Republic of Ireland doesn't have a land border with the EU.
Melila and Ceuta which are also in the EU, do not have a land border with the EU and are not in the Customs Union.
Simple fix, Republic of Ireland comes out of the EU Customs Union and joins ours.
Then everyone's happy, except the remoaners.
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Post by johnofgwent on Mar 22, 2023 1:34:33 GMT
God are we still flogging this rancid horsemeat ?
Look, it’s simple
When David Cameron stood up and said he’d have a referendum on staying in, or leaving, the European Union he daid straight to camera on the campaign circuit that it made NO SENSE to leave the EU and stay in the single market
So if the PRIME MINISTER says if we leave one we have to leave the other because it’s utterly nonsensical to leave one and stay in tbe other …..
Why do you not believe him ? I mean, he’s nothing like that lying shithead Blair ….
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 22, 2023 7:59:49 GMT
God are we still flogging this rancid horsemeat Look, it’s simple When David Cameron stood up and said he’d have a referendum on staying in, or leaving, the European Union he daid straight to camera on the campaign circuit that it made NO SENSE to leave the EU and stay in the single market
So if the PRIME MINISTER says if we leave one we have to leave the other because it’s utterly nonsensical to leave one and stay in tbe other ….. Why do you not believe him I mean, he’s nothing like that lying shithead Blair …. Well that is arguable - there are benefits and costs to any decision. Staying in the SM whilst being outside of the EU would have undoubtedly have had some positives - it would also have had a few negatives - as ever you weigh up the balance and come to a decision. |
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Post by thomas on Mar 22, 2023 8:52:44 GMT
self evidently not . Northern ireland voted remain , it got to remain.
Its not me you have to plead with and offer puerile excuses pacifico. Its your fellow tory brexiters who feel let down by the whole uk not getting brexit , not to mention your british allies in northern ireland whom your government has shafted over brexit twice over now .
As I keep telling you - thats democracy. You are going to have to stop complaining about it at some point and accept life as it is. we in scotland and the northern irish voted remain. Thats democracy. You didnt like it , told us englands vote mattered more , then ran up against the GFA which overruled your brexit vote for the uk , and here we are. GB left , anti democratically , the irish remained.
tell that to the tories like bojo and rees mogg voting against sunaks sell out tonight. Seems to be all kicking off in the tory party once more over europe.
Reform uk , or whatever the latest brexit party bnp type pressure group is called these days could have a field day in the tory seats at the next election.
Then i can comfortably repeat back to you thats democracy. Thats the great thing about democracy....theres always a re run in the near future.
How long can the tory brexiters hang on........?
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Post by thomas on Mar 22, 2023 8:53:28 GMT
Irrelevant rubbish from Tammie. Meanwhile, Northern Ireland isn't in the EU. The Republic of Ireland doesn't have a land border with the EU. Melila and Ceuta which are also in the EU, do not have a land border with the EU and are not in the Customs Union. Simple fix, Republic of Ireland comes out of the EU Customs Union and joins ours. Then everyone's happy, except the remoaners. ...and vincent carries on screaming nothing to see here in northern irleand lets move on ............ |
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Post by thomas on Mar 22, 2023 8:57:39 GMT
God are we still flogging this rancid horsemeat Look, it’s simple When David Cameron stood up and said he’d have a referendum on staying in, or leaving, the European Union he daid straight to camera on the campaign circuit that it made NO SENSE to leave the EU and stay in the single market
So if the PRIME MINISTER says if we leave one we have to leave the other because it’s utterly nonsensical to leave one and stay in tbe other ….. Why do you not believe him I mean, he’s nothing like that lying shithead Blair …. Well that is arguable - there are benefits and costs to any decision. Staying in the SM whilst being outside of the EU would have undoubtedly have had some positives - it would also have had a few negatives - as ever you weigh up the balance and come to a decision. ah...back to cherry picking the single market.....the old brexiter dream from 2016.
As john says how many times do we need to go over this? The closer you are to the single market , the more eu rules you take on . The further away the less.
You could not have stayed in the single market and upheld all the brexiter red lines , which is why after years of deliberations , we are where we are.
British exceptionalism came up against the eu rules and integrity of the single market and brussells won. Which is why so many tories are getting cold feet about brexit and wanting to follow rishi the remainer back in........
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Post by thomas on Mar 22, 2023 9:07:07 GMT
Mark Francois veteran of The Somme, D-Day Landings, The Battle of Britain, numerous excursions into enemy territory and Chairman of the ERG is not happy with Rishi's Brexit deal
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2023 9:17:24 GMT
self evidently not . Northern ireland voted remain , it got to remain.
Its not me you have to plead with and offer puerile excuses pacifico. Its your fellow tory brexiters who feel let down by the whole uk not getting brexit , not to mention your british allies in northern ireland whom your government has shafted over brexit twice over now .
As I keep telling you - thats democracy. You are going to have to stop complaining about it at some point and accept life as it is. I guess it's no coincidence that it's those with the least respect for democracy that rely on weird propaganda like "our beloved EU" (twisted Big Brother shit). |
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Post by thomas on Mar 22, 2023 9:20:03 GMT
As I keep telling you - thats democracy. You are going to have to stop complaining about it at some point and accept life as it is. I guess it's no conincidence that it's those with the least respect for democracy that rely on weird propaganda like "our beloved EU" (twisted Big Brother shit). the whole of our european union should have had a vote on wether or not your wee country and its seperatists should have left.
When you do come back to mother europe , i think we should close your parliament down and turn it into a museum , with charlie on the door taking ticket money.
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