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Post by dodgydave on Mar 22, 2023 11:43:23 GMT
The Tory Rwanda policy is rubbish because: It is doomed to failure because it breaks so many international treaties. They need to work together with other countries and agree quotas and safe routes so that the problem is shared... and of course assess the claims in weeks, not years, so they can get working asap and not be a drain on the tax payer. You've missed the point of the Rwanda plan. It's obviously modelled on the Australian policy that deported their boat people to Papua New Guinea. Whether or not it broke any international laws was irrelevant because they just did it anyway and within weeks the boats stopped coming. Problem solved. The Rwanda plan isn't to send thousands of illegals to Rwanda - that would be expensive and pointless. It relies on breaking the people smugglers model. If the illegals know that they're going to be sent to Rwanda they'll stop coming by boat. No my friends, I understand the point of Rwanda very clearly. We are not Australia, which quite frankly is an irrelevent country thousands of miles from anywhere. The last time I looked Australia are not signed up to the European Court of Human Rights. The Rwanda policy is designed to fail in the courts so the Tories can say we tried, but the woke lefties prevented us from doing anything with their open border ideology. Labour / Lineker should call this out and suggest a practical alternative, without resorting to inflammatory language of their own. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 22, 2023 11:46:29 GMT
You really need to watch Nandy being interviewed, it's cringeworthy.
She's just like a programmed dog, if they ask her anything outside of what she's programmed to respond to, she just repeats the same thing over and over again, it really infuriates the interviewers, she reads from a script, it's almost impossible for her to answer anything off scrip.
She might be a popular MP, but being popular and being capable of your job are two different things.
That's because of Starmer's "collective responsibility" policy, which we all know means be a mindless robot and do as you are told. It is really sad, because Nandy and Raynor were quite impressive speakers under the loose reigns of Corbyn. Well he isn't going to win general election if that's his stance. |
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Post by dodgydave on Mar 22, 2023 12:23:54 GMT
That's because of Starmer's "collective responsibility" policy, which we all know means be a mindless robot and do as you are told. It is really sad, because Nandy and Raynor were quite impressive speakers under the loose reigns of Corbyn. Well he isn't going to win general election if that's his stance. He will if the Tories keep imploding. However if the economy improves, and Sunak brings party stability, then it is going to be a hung parliament. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 22, 2023 12:33:09 GMT
You've missed the point of the Rwanda plan. It's obviously modelled on the Australian policy that deported their boat people to Papua New Guinea. Whether or not it broke any international laws was irrelevant because they just did it anyway and within weeks the boats stopped coming. Problem solved. The Rwanda plan isn't to send thousands of illegals to Rwanda - that would be expensive and pointless. It relies on breaking the people smugglers model. If the illegals know that they're going to be sent to Rwanda they'll stop coming by boat. No my friends, I understand the point of Rwanda very clearly. We are not Australia, which quite frankly is an irrelevent country thousands of miles from anywhere. The last time I looked Australia are not signed up to the European Court of Human Rights. The Rwanda policy is designed to fail in the courts so the Tories can say we tried, but the woke lefties prevented us from doing anything with their open border ideology. Labour / Lineker should call this out and suggest a practical alternative, without resorting to inflammatory language of their own. possibly, but I think the Tories might just clinch a coalition, the problem with who?
I can't see it being the Lib-dems because they've never recovered from the last alliance with Tories, Nick Clegg sold them down the river.
It wont be the SNP, apart from the fact they're in a mess themselves at the moment.
DUP is probably the last hope.
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 22, 2023 13:15:24 GMT
You've missed the point of the Rwanda plan. It's obviously modelled on the Australian policy that deported their boat people to Papua New Guinea. Whether or not it broke any international laws was irrelevant because they just did it anyway and within weeks the boats stopped coming. Problem solved. The Rwanda plan isn't to send thousands of illegals to Rwanda - that would be expensive and pointless. It relies on breaking the people smugglers model. If the illegals know that they're going to be sent to Rwanda they'll stop coming by boat. No my friends, I understand the point of Rwanda very clearly. We are not Australia, which quite frankly is an irrelevent country thousands of miles from anywhere. The last time I looked Australia are not signed up to the European Court of Human Rights. The Rwanda policy is designed to fail in the courts so the Tories can say we tried, but the woke lefties prevented us from doing anything with their open border ideology. Labour / Lineker should call this out and suggest a practical alternative, without resorting to inflammatory language of their own.They don't have a practical alternative - the only suggestion they have made is to increase the amount of asylum seekers we get. |
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