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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2023 11:42:24 GMT
Sadly, so long as they get their money using threats, extortion and the support of New Labour I see no reason for the BBC to change. Democracy is about a choice. The BBC's very foundation is undemocratic and anti-choice.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2023 11:44:10 GMT
Your all tinged to one degree or another with Bigotry That would be the BBC. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2023 11:44:35 GMT
Why should I you told the lie? Refugees crossing the channel are not illegal immigrants. |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 15, 2023 11:49:34 GMT
Entering the UK without valid travel documents is an Offence as it is in most countries , the fact that we do not prosecute each and every one that is caught doing so does not mean they have not committed an Offence, it makes common sense and economic sense not to do so. If we did prosecute every Adult last year alone that entered the UK unlawfully it would mean many more thousands of Court Cases which are costly, our Courts already have a huge backlog of Criminal Cases due to Covid some people have been on Bail or held in Prison awaiting trial for at least two years or possibly longer, their victims want Justice as well they have to wait, the wheels of Justice turn slowly enough as it is in normal times. The EU is awash with Alleged Asylum Seekers and Economic Migrants not just the UK, these people genuine or not are paying thousands of pounds to cross the Channel , as they do to cross the Mediterranean Sea that money is funding International Crime Syndicates right across Europe and as far away as Turkey, some are based here in the UK as well, they are making millions of pounds every month which funds more smuggling drugs, woman and children for the sex trade, etc etc. We and the EU have to do something to try and stop the flow of so many people, driven from the homelands due to Civil Wars, Famine, and Poverty religious intolerance etc , as fast as the authorities smash one smuggling gang another one takes its place, with the best will in the world no country can absorb so many people without damaging its own country its economy and the indigenous people and their culture. Untrue. No it is not. |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 15, 2023 11:51:21 GMT
Why should I you told the lie? Refugees crossing the channel are not illegal immigrants. Yes they are - Article 31 of the UN Refugee Convention and the 1971 Immigration Act. |
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Post by Handyman on Mar 15, 2023 12:24:37 GMT
Why should I you told the lie? Refugees crossing the channel are not illegal immigrants. You really are gutless and stupid not of this planet , if brains were made of dynamite you would not have enough to blow your cap off |
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Post by Handyman on Mar 15, 2023 12:35:02 GMT
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Post by Bentley on Mar 15, 2023 12:42:17 GMT
The problem with you Moaners in here - is that you just dont like famous or well known people who champion the cause of equality, fairness or justice for ALL. Your all tinged to one degree or another with Bigotry We live in a country where, in my lifetime, racism was rampant in society, and where black people were routinely excluded not only from decent jobs and housing, but also from bars, cafes, restaurants and businesses. The police had to be threataned and warned to clean up their act over and over, yet bigotry and racism still exists within our police forces. If black people had been treated differently from when they were invited here, if they had been treated as equals, then things would have been different today. Black Lives Matter is relevant, not least because of history, including recent history, and because of how people who are different were treated. Fuck me. Strawmen r us . Lineker made a dishonest, dog whistle type , Godwin law style ,false comparison in a lame attempt to virtue signal. He could of made the point without the pathetic attempt at hyperbole exaggeration and false claims. And now you are following Gary’s example and making an uncontrolled migrant issue into a racist one . You do know that Albanians are not black people dont you? Unless you are claiming that the people you make knee jerk allegations of racism would be happier to accept European Albanians over African.. |
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Post by bancroft on Mar 15, 2023 12:50:46 GMT
Gary Lineker is probably back in, as the BBC had contractual fears over coverage for the FA Cup.
It is pretty obvious the BBC football sports presenters have shown the ability to act like a union and threaten the contracts of the BBC.
This is a slippery slope.
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Post by patman post on Mar 15, 2023 13:03:28 GMT
I can't see from any posts I've read here what makes a newly arrived or unprocessed asylum seeker, illegal. Surely they are only illegal if they stay without applying for asylum upon arrival, or stay on if their application is turned down. Arriving without papers and/or travelling across one or several safe countries does not invalidate their rights to claim. The Convention further stipulates that, subject to specific exceptions, refu-
gees should not be penalized for their illegal entry or stay. This recognizes
that the seeking of asylum can require refugees to breach immigration rules.
It should be noted that Member States are not required to apply the concept of first
country of asylum, as Article 26 is a permissive provision.
Destination countries may have interests in reducing irregular movements. As such, the
concept of first country of asylum may be seen as a potential deterrent to irregular
movements by refugees.
Except many of them don't claim asylum, they fade into the black economy, Indian restaurants are often raided to find those who often then scream asylum, same with food processors and farming gangs. Welcome to the world that I know but of which a minority of others are aware. Next chapter will be on ID fraud, also rife in ther immigrant world. If they don’t seek asylum they are not asylum seekers. Such people and their employers are breaking laws to which UNHCR have no input. The authorities are free to chase after and prosecute everyone involved. The flaw is the inability of the government to control immigration. Passing laws against people arriving in the UK without clearance — without setting up schemes under which applications can be processed before asylum seekers arrive in the UK — achieves nothing positive… |
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Post by see2 on Mar 15, 2023 13:10:06 GMT
Rubbish. All the people in charge are Tories appointed by the Tories. Jug ears was employed long before a tory donor took the helm of the bullshit broadcastin company......Never mind karen you are good for a laugh. The BBC is probably the least biased of the news programmes but whingers like yourself will always find something to whinge about. |
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Post by see2 on Mar 15, 2023 13:12:14 GMT
Your all tinged to one degree or another with Bigotry That would be the BBC. Reasonable advice, stop allowing your bias to dictate your posts. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2023 13:29:26 GMT
Reasonable advice, stop allowing your bias to dictate your posts. I think you've overused that stock response, kid.
EDIT: Enjoy my ignore list, kid.
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Post by see2 on Mar 15, 2023 13:33:34 GMT
Reasonable advice, stop allowing your bias to dictate your posts. I think you've overused that stock response, kid.
First time I have ever used it, kid. It's still good advice though, especially when its appropriate. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2023 14:29:46 GMT
Bentley ... "Fuck me. Strawmen r us . Lineker made a dishonest, dog whistle type , Godwin law style ,false comparison in a lame attempt to virtue signal.
He could of made the point without the pathetic attempt at hyperbole exaggeration and false claims.
And now you are following Gary’s example and making an uncontrolled migrant issue into a racist one .
You do know that Albanians are not black people dont you?
Unless you are claiming that the people you make knee jerk allegations of racism would be happier to accept European Albanians over African.."
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Its a matter of opinion
Farage has frequently used similar language, inflamatory, sensationalist, exaggeration, its why UKIP voters were labeled as "closet racists and swivel eyed loons" by David Cameron of all people.
The rhetoric as frequently used by SOME ministers and some so called Newspapers has been reminiscent of the kind of language used against Jews in 1930s Germany, and Garry Linekar was 100% correct, and whether you like it or not, that is the opinion of millions of British people.
I do not see any refugee / asylum issue from a position of race, I see it from a position of common sense, and common sense tells me that Albanians do not need asylum, but perhaps Syrians and Ukrainians do.
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