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Post by Vinny on Mar 13, 2023 19:14:40 GMT
Yes, we kill them with cars, now. Being a townie, I can only go on what I see squashed at the roadside, and what I’m told by country dwelling friends. I’ve noticed more flattened foxes over the past few years than say in the early 2000’s. I’m told that there are more foxes now because they’re not being chased and hunted to keep their numbers down in rural areas. In town — specifically around N16 — there are plenty of large foxes roaming gardens, parks and streets, that are unafraid of people. The problem for us is the smelly mess they leave in gardens, and the way they rip rubbish bags open and distribute the contents all over gardens and streets. I’m told that they’ve moved into town because their numbers are now too great in country areas. We’re not allowed to tackle any fox problem in town, and councils take no notice of complaints. Sometimes, when clearing up theiR mess, I feel I’d willingly support a Hackney Hunt. I understand the anti hunt feelings, but we don’t ban killing other creatures when they’re for food or become a pest (and town foxes are). So I don’t understand why it’s OK to fish, shoot rabbits, pigeons, ducks, deer, geese, and go ferreting, but ban a useful pastime just because some people enjoy it… You're not using your grey matter. Hunting foxes is legal, just not with dogs.  A professional pest controller with a suppressed rifle is the best option. Quiet, humane, fast. Fox won't fear or feel anything. |
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Post by sword on Mar 14, 2023 14:42:37 GMT
We're out of the Common Agricultural Policy, they no longer receive agricultural subsidies. Has Brexit become the final straw for fox hunting in the UK? Its become the final straw for some farmers they are going out of business. |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 14, 2023 14:51:41 GMT
We're out of the Common Agricultural Policy, they no longer receive agricultural subsidies. Has Brexit become the final straw for fox hunting in the UK? Its become the final straw for some farmers they are going out of business. Total Bollocks |
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 14, 2023 16:30:41 GMT
If that pans out, it'd be the first bonus I've come across. I can almost taste those bitter remainiac tears. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 14, 2023 17:29:36 GMT
Oddly enough ref foxes, we used to live in a more built up area in town, or on the edge of town and would see or hear foxes quite regularly at night time scavenging for food in the street and in people's gardens. At one time seeing a fox in an urban garden was unusual but it became very routine. Anyhoo, a few years ago we moved to a more rural location, a location where you would reasonably expect to see foxes. We have been here about ten years and are yet to see a fox. Our neighbours have been here since 1967 and say they used to see foxes but not for a long time. So maybe rural foxes have sussed that it's easier to find food in an urban environment.
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Post by sword on Mar 14, 2023 17:41:18 GMT
Oddly enough ref foxes, we used to live in a more built up area in town, or on the edge of town and would see or hear foxes quite regularly at night time scavenging for food in the street and in people's gardens. At one time seeing a fox in an urban garden was unusual but it became very routine. Anyhoo, a few years ago we moved to a more rural location, a location where you would reasonably expect to see foxes. We have been here about ten years and are yet to see a fox. Our neighbours have been here since 1967 and say they used to see foxes but not for a long time. So maybe rural foxes have sussed that it's easier to find food in an urban environment. I have seen them in Central Manchester where my work took me every week,no fear of people,rich pickings for food,they live like kings on all those unfinished Kebabs. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 14, 2023 17:53:28 GMT
Oddly enough ref foxes, we used to live in a more built up area in town, or on the edge of town and would see or hear foxes quite regularly at night time scavenging for food in the street and in people's gardens. At one time seeing a fox in an urban garden was unusual but it became very routine. Anyhoo, a few years ago we moved to a more rural location, a location where you would reasonably expect to see foxes. We have been here about ten years and are yet to see a fox. Our neighbours have been here since 1967 and say they used to see foxes but not for a long time. So maybe rural foxes have sussed that it's easier to find food in an urban environment. I have seen them in Central Manchester where my work took me every week,no fear of people,rich pickings for food,they live like kings on all those unfinished Kebabs. And in urban areas people sometimes feed them. We knew people who left food in the garden, then when it got dark rather than watch TV they would sit and watch the foxes. Cant help thinking this sort of behaviour although intended to be kind, wasn't doing the foxes much good in the long run. |
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Post by Vinny on Mar 16, 2023 12:26:19 GMT
I sometimes see them when I'm outdoors.
They keep the rat population down. I leave them alone.
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Post by Steve on Mar 16, 2023 12:40:45 GMT
Correct me if I am wrong, but Hunting Foxes with hounds was banned in the UK back in the early 2,000 It was officially banned in 2004, but carried on illegally under the disguise of 'trail hunting'. I have from time to time witnessed terriermen out and about on quad bikes, terrier boxes on them, one dog per box. I've witnessed illegal fox hunting taking place. Subsidies from the taxpayer to the farmers involved helped illegal hunting carry on. Now the subsidy system is different, the farmers aren't getting what they want to continue paying for large packs of dogs, horses etc. Sadly those illegal hunts will just carry on, the police aren't interested in arresting mates of their senior officers and the linkage to EU money is weak. |
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Post by Vinny on Mar 16, 2023 12:48:07 GMT
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Post by Steve on Mar 16, 2023 13:15:01 GMT
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Post by oracle75 on Mar 16, 2023 13:26:05 GMT
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Post by jonksy on Mar 16, 2023 13:31:47 GMT
And dartmoor hunt mate, and frigging good riddance... |
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Post by Vinny on Mar 16, 2023 14:10:28 GMT
And dartmoor hunt mate, and frigging good riddance... They're dropping like flies now. The change in subsidy policy has had a big effect. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Mar 19, 2023 22:31:25 GMT
Yes, we kill them with cars, now. Being a townie, I can only go on what I see squashed at the roadside, and what I’m told by country dwelling friends. I’ve noticed more flattened foxes over the past few years than say in the early 2000’s. I’m told that there are more foxes now because they’re not being chased and hunted to keep their numbers down in rural areas. In town — specifically around N16 — there are plenty of large foxes roaming gardens, parks and streets, that are unafraid of people. The problem for us is the smelly mess they leave in gardens, and the way they rip rubbish bags open and distribute the contents all over gardens and streets. I’m told that they’ve moved into town because their numbers are now too great in country areas. We’re not allowed to tackle any fox problem in town, and councils take no notice of complaints. Sometimes, when clearing up theiR mess, I feel I’d willingly support a Hackney Hunt. I understand the anti hunt feelings, but we don’t ban killing other creatures when they’re for food or become a pest (and town foxes are). So I don’t understand why it’s OK to fish, shoot rabbits, pigeons, ducks, deer, geese, and go ferreting, but ban a useful pastime just because some people enjoy it… I have, for all but five of my 65 years on the planet, lived in a house whose back garden’s back boundary is the village / town / city limit with open country beyond. Admittedly urban sprawl has built up on the other side of the river in the house i have owned since 1997 but the large flood plain provides open country and grazing fields all the way to the Usk Valley It has become VERY noticeable since Blair’s assault on the rural dwellers that fox incursions into the land beyond my garden has massively increased. They can be heard in the grassy areas near the riverbank nightly and incursions onto the estate streets happen weekly if not more often. |
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