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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 11, 2023 18:09:58 GMT
So, if you work for the BBC, in any capacity, you should not Air your views even if they are correct. It appears this is an attack on a 'lefty' when you consider other people that have criticised the government and worked at the BBC. The BBC has made a political statement itself by 'bowing' to Tory pressure, should it stand back until it is sorted? Well, let's examine Sidfiddler's nonsense in detail, shall we?
This is "censure" or gagging of a citizen from expressing his or her views... No, it's about the actions of an employee of a public body which has a commitment to impartiality. ...Gary Linekar s views on this topical issue is NOT political... Of course it is. There are a great many people in this country, including me, who can now see that for some people in mortal danger or distress, there is now no means available to request asylum in the UK, and that is an indisputable fact. No it isn't. The vast majority are coming from the safe state of France, none of whom are in mortal danger or distress and there is no means for them to request asylum in the UK because there is absolutely no reason for them to do so. In the 1930s there were many politicians and people in this country who opposed granting refuge to Jews from Germany... Totally bogus comparison. How many channel migrants are being sent to concentration camps in the EU? Oh yeah, that'll be none. If Gary Linekar in his own free thinking mind, wishes to express his opinion on the subject, the same as thousands of other famous people have done on Twitter, then why should the Tory Boss of the BBC stop him... Because he is an employee of a public body which has a commitment to impartiality. And his transparently biased and brainless witterings are clearly incompatible with that.
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Post by Bentley on Mar 11, 2023 18:26:13 GMT
Sidfiddler ... "“There are a great many people in this country, including me, who can now see that for some people in mortal danger or distress, there is now no means available to request asylum in the UK, and that is an indisputable fact.” Bentley ... "But they can and should in France" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Your reply to my post confirms that in your opinion, no one has the right to choose the United Kingdom as a place of sanctuary. It doesn’t . It means that in my opinion no one should illegally enter the UK from another place of safety . You knew that but decided to post a false claim.
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Post by sheepy on Mar 11, 2023 20:52:51 GMT
Attenborough may be the darling of the left, but on many occasions he has called for population growth to be cut. Indeed, a few years ago he said the human population should be halved. I wonder what the sainted Greta and like minded lefties think of that. I guess they don't have a clue it didn't need to be that way.
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 11, 2023 20:59:29 GMT
Attenborough may be the darling of the left, but on many occasions he has called for population growth to be cut. Indeed, a few years ago he said the human population should be halved. I wonder what the sainted Greta and like minded lefties think of that. I guess they don't have a clue it didn't need to be that way. I'd like to say I agree, but I'm not entirely sure what you mean.
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Post by sheepy on Mar 11, 2023 21:32:25 GMT
I guess they don't have a clue it didn't need to be that way. I'd like to say I agree, but I'm not entirely sure what you mean. The mass extinction they are obsessing over.
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Post by steppenwolf on Mar 12, 2023 7:25:42 GMT
No one is getting my point - that Gary Linekar OFF AIR and outside of work has every right to express personal opinions, provided that they are not offensive, abusive, insulting or derogatory, on a public domain which is available to all. If you cannot accept the "Libertarian Concept" then you must favour the kind of society which exists in Russia, North Korea or China. Mr Andrew Neal comes immediately to mind as someone with specific Conservative views, which he regularly expressed, not least in newspaper columns, at the same time he was employed by the BBC. As stated previously - the TORY BOSSES at the BBC are going to lose this fight, and I see now that its now affecting most BBC Sports programmes, with many now been cancelled because staff have walked. From Marcus Rashford to Gary Linekar - the Tories attempted to silence criticism, but they wont win .... never But many people found Lineker's comparison with Germany in the '1930's very offensive - also obviously nonsense. And Andrew Neil was always very careful to remain impartial. He was perfectly capable of arguing policy from different political perspectives. In fact most of the BBC's political commentators avoided making their own political views clear. But that doesn't mean that it isn't pretty obvious what their political views are. It was entirely obvious from the questions they asked that the BBC political commentators were - to a man and woman - entirely against Brexit. But they never said this. Lineker has come out and trashed govt policy and basically called it Nazi. That definitely breaches the BBC code whichever way you look at it.
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Post by om15 on Mar 12, 2023 12:50:48 GMT
In recent years we have watched supine and closet lefties in the Tory Government stand back and watch hordes throw statues in canals, block roads, daub Sir Winston Churchill and cancel anyone they choose.
Now, under Ricky, there seems to be a push back, he fronted up Sturgeon and she ended up walking away, now the BBC have reluctantly taken steps to address their appalling bias, with lefties like Marr and Maitlis leaving, now they are standing up to the serial and unrepentant disobedient crisp salesman.
I hope that they immediately dismiss Linaker and all those glossy non entities that are refusing to do their job. The money saved could fund repeats of only fools and horses and little Britain.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2023 14:39:19 GMT
You deny sending vulnerable people back to their country of origin is not appalling? You deny that using words like, invasion, thieves and murderers is not appalling? The policy will not work but the Tories use the soundbites to keep people like you wound up. Anyone who can make the journey from Africa , Asia and sometimes Europe into France and then on to the UK is not vulnerable you idiot. Please provide the link where the words invasion, thieves and murdered regarding migrants are part of official government policy . Nope but government policy seems to keep people like you wound up. So much so that you are ready to make things up and support liars. Give you a name instead, Braverman. Asylum seekers have a right to go through other safe countries to come here and unless you want the government to withdraw from the convention that Winston Churchill himself was involved with that will not change. As an example Ukrainians did not have to stay in the first safe country they came to. Calling people an "idiot" is a sure sign that you have lost the argument.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2023 14:42:58 GMT
The BBC are not stopping him, he can twitter all day about his vacuous opinions and no one is saying that he can't, it is after all a free country. All the BBC are saying is that if he chooses to make an idiot of himself with offensive and juvenile twitters they will choose not to employ him. Everyone has a right to free speech, but no one has a right to a job. There isn't a problem, he has chosen to breach his contract and can't be surprised at the outcome. Why is it just Linaker that is being targeted and not Alan Sugar, Andrew Neil who both spout right wing mantra's and freelance for the BBC. Linacre is being 'punished for criticising the government and that is Fascism.
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Post by thomas on Mar 12, 2023 14:43:08 GMT
I could not believe this story when I read it " BBC WILL NOT BROADCAST ATTENBOROUGH EPISODE OVER FEARS OF RIGHTWING BACKLASH"
The non-controversial and much loved National Treasure "David Attenborough" is a biologist, a scientist and a highly respected naturalist. But an episode of his new series will not be screened because Mr Attenborough looks at the losses of nature in the UK, and what has caused the losses; He also looks at, and investigates "Rewilding", a process which is apparantly controversial in some right wing circles. www.theguardian.com/media/2023/mar/10/david-attenborough-bbc-wild-isles-episode-rightwing-backlash-fearsThis of course comes on top of a Tory led backlash over Gary Linekar who expressed his "PERSONAL OPINION" on Social Media of the governments Immigration Bill. The BBC and Mr Linekar have this afternoon agreed that the presenter should for the time been, "step back from presenting Match of the Day. Meanwhile the top man in the BBC is a member of the Conservative Party and regularly gives large donations to the party. ( The rules of impartiality apply to some, but not to others ) Do the tories now own the bbc ?........certainly looks like it....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2023 14:49:52 GMT
Because he is an employee of a public body which has a commitment to impartiality. And his transparently biased and brainless witterings are clearly incompatible with that. The BBC made a pollical choice by bowing to the Conservatives calls for him to be 'red carded'. Lineker was 'allowed' to make a political statement whilst hosting a BBC show in fact the BBC made a big thing of it. Right wing presenters appear to be allowed to make political statements if they agree with the government. Linaker has been suspended because he criticised the government, just as the Nazi's did.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2023 16:32:30 GMT
The post by thomas above says it all really doesn't it
The most dishonest and most bent, corrupt Prime Minister in modern times ( Boris Johnson ) installed a bunch of cronies to run the BBC.
I hope that the Labour Party, SNP, Lib Dems and others make a huge fuss about this and insist that the way in which BBC top bosses are chosen MUST CHANGE.
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Post by sheepy on Mar 12, 2023 17:01:33 GMT
The post by thomas above says it all really doesn't it The most dishonest and most bent, corrupt Prime Minister in modern times ( Boris Johnson ) installed a bunch of cronies to run the BBC. I hope that the Labour Party, SNP, Lib Dems and others make a huge fuss about this and insist that the way in which BBC top bosses are chosen MUST CHANGE. He certainly does New Labour and the SNP are massaging each others ego's the SNP for backing its latest globalist leader who has a Khan like agenda of personal empire building and Labour hoping to get votes in Scotland as they cannot win a GE without them.
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Post by Bentley on Mar 12, 2023 17:42:51 GMT
Anyone who can make the journey from Africa , Asia and sometimes Europe into France and then on to the UK is not vulnerable you idiot. Please provide the link where the words invasion, thieves and murdered regarding migrants are part of official government policy . Nope but government policy seems to keep people like you wound up. So much so that you are ready to make things up and support liars. Give you a name instead, Braverman. Asylum seekers have a right to go through other safe countries to come here and unless you want the government to withdraw from the convention that Winston Churchill himself was involved with that will not change. As an example Ukrainians did not have to stay in the first safe country they came to. Calling people an "idiot" is a sure sign that you have lost the argument. Calling someone an idiot when they have posted an idiotic claim ( as you did ) is a sure sign that they are an idiot . Migrants do not have a right to illegally enter the Uk. Ukrainians generally did not pay traffickers to illegally enter the UK . Please refer to my first sentence .
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2023 19:53:03 GMT
The problem with the BBC's so called impartiality rules is that they are not being enforced impartially. Any right wing twat connected with the BBC seems free to say whatever they like without consequence, but woe betide anyone who is in any way critical of the Tory government.
And deluded prats on here still drone on about supposed left wing bias at the BBC. The BBC has in fact been totally corrupted by Johnson-appointed cronies and Tory donors.
Tory Laura Kuhnsberg is about as impartial as some c lister plucked out of Tory HQ would be. Her piece today on the whole Linaker thing was entirely one sided and blatantly biased.
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