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Post by sword on Mar 15, 2023 23:26:13 GMT
I hate to point out AGAIN they had a non aggresion pact with the Germans,after we dragged our feet,otherwise over two million German troops would have been right on Russia's Western border much sooner than they were,like Nato are trying to do now. A non-aggression pact against who? - they invaded Poland in coordination with the Nazis and slaughtered tens of thousands FFS... Your attempt to blame the UK for Russia invading Poland is fucking lunacy of a clinical level. Well we did sell Czechoslovakia down the River when Hitler took the Sudeten land,at the same time your Polish friends took part of Czechoslovakia after clearing it with Mr Hitler first,strange people never talk about that,and you are the lunatic with your far right barking. www.expatica.com/be/general/poland-says-role-in-czechoslovakias-annexation-a-sin-74925/ |
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Post by wapentake on Mar 16, 2023 0:06:32 GMT
A non-aggression pact against who? - they invaded Poland in coordination with the Nazis and slaughtered tens of thousands FFS... Your attempt to blame the UK for Russia invading Poland is fucking lunacy of a clinical level. Well we did sell Czechoslovakia down the River when Hitler took the Sudeten land,at the same time your Polish friends took part of Czechoslovakia after clearing it with Mr Hitler first,strange people never talk about that,and you are the lunatic with your far right barking. www.expatica.com/be/general/poland-says-role-in-czechoslovakias-annexation-a-sin-74925/Yes a shameful episode in our history where Benes had to wait outside whilst his countries fate was decided by others,Chamberlain took the brunt for all that whilst the reality was the greater blame lay with his predecessor Stanley Baldwin. The truth was we were totally unprepared for war as witnessed by the debacle in 1940 which at the time of Munich would’ve been so much worse. |
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Post by Dubdrifter on Mar 16, 2023 4:34:08 GMT
The truth was we were totally unprepared for war as witnessed by the debacle in 1940 which at the time of Munich would’ve been so much worse. As I mentioned before, I had a friend(sadly passed) who was a British tank commander who was captured inland at Dunkirk trying to hold back the Germans and buy time for the beach evacuation … he spent the war in a series of appalling prison camps where they all but starved … Red Cross parcels saved a few … he swapped his cigarettes for tins of condensed milk … that gave him just enough extra energy to survive the WINTER Long March at SS gunpoint - hundreds of miles north into Germany towards the end of the war, through snow and freezing rain as their boots fell apart … the bitter Siberian winds sweeping Europe from the East killed many at night … the smokers who faltered and collapsed got a bullet in the back of the head. When the war ended … he was a 6-stone ‘skeleton’. …. The Soros Posse warmongers in the WEST who engineered this new conflict back in 2014 … deserve stringing up for the destruction they’ve caused … and failing to sit at Putin’s negotiating table in Peace Talks in January ‘22 - when Ukraine was still intact. EU Leader Van der Leyen has been an evil bitch in all this … she knows the destruction of Ukraine was part of the Soros Energy/Resource land grab deal worth $$$$$billions to secure /infrastructure rebuild contracts … drag the Ukraine people into such desperation … they would be over a barrel to accept ANY shoddy EU Membership terms that would put them in debt for at least 50+ years.The Zionist Industrial/Banking Complex arguably did that to Britain and the whole of Europe over WW1+2. …luckily we avoided being dragged into the madness of Vietnam … another Commie witch-hunt like this latest Chinese conflict. They know how to push the propaganda narratives to suck stupid politicians into wasting our money and economies on bombs and guns. It’s time to remove them from all Media ownership and charge them with fermenting World Anarchy … that would stop this propaganda nonsense in it’s tracks … and common sense might then prevail amongst human beings on this planet. Stick the BBC Management in the dock too! … What a bunch of brazen LIARS they’ve become since 9/11 and Brexit. |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 16, 2023 7:47:44 GMT
A non-aggression pact against who? - they invaded Poland in coordination with the Nazis and slaughtered tens of thousands FFS... Your attempt to blame the UK for Russia invading Poland is fucking lunacy of a clinical level. Well we did sell Czechoslovakia down the River when Hitler took the Sudeten land,at the same time your Polish friends took part of Czechoslovakia after clearing it with Mr Hitler first,strange people never talk about that,and you are the lunatic with your far right barking. www.expatica.com/be/general/poland-says-role-in-czechoslovakias-annexation-a-sin-74925/Funny you should mention Czechoslovakia.. |
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Post by piglet on Mar 16, 2023 14:13:06 GMT
As far as im concerned there are boundaries to free speech, and a boundary this website does not acknowledge. I find it wrong to have persons defending the indefensible, to say they can, under a banner of free speech is plain wrong.
Its like Fred West bragging about his crimes to the local paper, defending them and justifying them, and the paper prints it. No sir.
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Post by Vinny on Mar 16, 2023 14:24:44 GMT
You posted that three times by accident, but yes, you're right.
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Post by piglet on Mar 16, 2023 14:31:50 GMT
It didnt seem to post.....i thought i was still banned.
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Post by bancroft on Mar 16, 2023 14:32:15 GMT
The truth was we were totally unprepared for war as witnessed by the debacle in 1940 which at the time of Munich would’ve been so much worse. As I mentioned before, I had a friend(sadly passed) who was a British tank commander who was captured inland at Dunkirk trying to hold back the Germans and buy time for the beach evacuation … he spent the war in a series of appalling prison camps where they all but starved … Red Cross parcels saved a few … he swapped his cigarettes for tins of condensed milk … that gave him just enough extra energy to survive the WINTER Long March at SS gunpoint - hundreds of miles north into Germany towards the end of the war, through snow and freezing rain as their boots fell apart … the bitter Siberian winds sweeping Europe from the East killed many at night … the smokers who faltered and collapsed got a bullet in the back of the head. When the war ended … he was a 6-stone ‘skeleton’. …. The Soros Posse warmongers in the WEST who engineered this new conflict back in 2014 … deserve stringing up for the destruction they’ve caused … and failing to sit at Putin’s negotiating table in Peace Talks in January ‘22 - when Ukraine was still intact. EU Leader Van der Leyen has been an evil bitch in all this … she knows the destruction of Ukraine was part of the Soros Energy/Resource land grab deal worth $$$$$billions to secure /infrastructure rebuild contracts … drag the Ukraine people into such desperation … they would be over a barrel to accept ANY shoddy EU Membership terms that would put them in debt for at least 50+ years.The Zionist Industrial/Banking Complex arguably did that to Britain and the whole of Europe over WW1+2. …luckily we avoided being dragged into the madness of Vietnam … another Commie witch-hunt like this latest Chinese conflict. They know how to push the propaganda narratives to suck stupid politicians into wasting our money and economies on bombs and guns. It’s time to remove them from all Media ownership and charge them with fermenting World Anarchy … that would stop this propaganda nonsense in it’s tracks … and common sense might then prevail amongst human beings on this planet. Stick the BBC Management in the dock too! … What a bunch of brazen LIARS they’ve become since 9/11 and Brexit. Soros though charities puts money into the US Democratic charity groups though doubt he was personally pushing for Ukraine to take on Russia that is more the US Dems with their pet hates. I don't think the EU wanted war expect some anti-Russian Poles it is just that the EU were not going to go against the US government. Think the EU realises without the US they can not really threaten Putin's regime. They may look to revise that approach over time. |
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Post by Dubdrifter on Mar 17, 2023 9:02:33 GMT
As far as im concerned there are boundaries to free speech, and a boundary this website does not acknowledge. I find it wrong to have persons defending the indefensible, to say they can, under a banner of free speech is plain wrong. Its like Fred West bragging about his crimes to the local paper, defending them and justifying them, and the paper prints it. No sir. What a pathetic emotive example of an argument (the Fred West card!! … puleeeese! 😂🤪😱) - to shut down FREE SPEECH here … and those pointing out (with evidence) the WESTERN programme to destabilise Ukraine engineered since 2014 … by VP Biden, the Soros Posse, the EU, NATO/Pentagon ‘anti-Commie McCarthyites’. I’ve repeatedly mentioned the WEST’s refusal to push Zelenski to the PEACE negotiating table January ‘22 … none of the Vinny warmongering Posse on this Forum has dared to address that issue …. Because these spineless Dr Strangeloves can’t mount a counter argument to that key point …Do you really think censoring these POV is going to shut up the Humanitarian Lobby! As Israeli/Western arms dealers throw more arms into the affray$$€€£££ … then pretend to weep ‘crocodile tears’ in their MSM broadsheets - it’s a sick show the WEST are running here … the theatric destruction of Ukraine sells more newspapers£$$€, this war racks up more debt to enslave Ukrainians … as they ramp up the horror … and get richer from the ENERGY/RESOURCE RIP-OFF CRISIS they engineered thru Sanctions. Zelenski knew what would happen if he chose to pick a fight with Putin … and so did the WEST …. these sick warmongering people should be locked away in asylums … not running Western Institutions - or given the power of CENSORSHIP. Soros though charities puts money into the US Democratic charity groups though doubt he was personally pushing for Ukraine to take on Russia that is more the US Dems with their pet hates. I don't think the EU wanted war expect some anti-Russian Poles it is just that the EU were not going to go against the US government. Think the EU realises without the US they can not really threaten Putin's regime. They may look to revise that approach over time. If you follow the money … Soros was backing BLM anarchists to destabilise America way before the George Floyd catalyst … he funded to keep Wikipedia afloat … they obliged by white-washing his Nazi past, BLM history and Ukraine activities going back way beyond 2015. They own and control many Fact-checker websites and censor there too. $$$millions of BLM donations over the George Floyd ‘pantomime’ was funnelled into the coffers of ACT BLUE that supported white Democrat candidates … we still wait for Biden’s DP Justice System to address that corruption! The reason the EU never intended brokering Peace in the Ukraine is because Humanitarians in EU nations have no sway …The Commission is run/controlled and owned by the Zionist money broker networks that run America .. their propaganda programme is engineered by Bloomberg with links to Larry Silverstein(9/11WTC owner) The Coudenhove-Kalergi Plan has secretly dominated EU broken border policy for over 70 years. EU agitation to get into Ukraine and help push NATO forces in to destabilise that region … has been a FACT for a very long time … and the key to strategically destroying Russian security and defensive ability. .Read any book on it … written by any retired Pentagon/MOD military expert. … it’s part of their ABC. Even the Eurovision Song Contest VOTE was rigged so the pre-determined winners could be assisted to buy a drone to kill and maim innocent people. That shows how morally bankrupt the EU is these days … so non-democratic. Farcical. The Pentagon/Deep State took out Trump(rigged the Election) because he went behind NATO backs and brokered a peace deal with Putin … and planned to cut the U.S. Military Budget saving U.S. Tax-payers $$$$$ trillions. The Pentagon went ballistic! They wanted and have created Cold War 2 … and are the reason everyone in the World is suffering economic hardship over energy, inflation, depression … and the banks are collapsing. These NUTTERS collectively worked to pull down the System and pushed us towards nuclear war. Really insane. … Kubrick’s “Dr Strangelove” film proved that fact! … We were warned … no excuse for making stupid choices over Brexit v EU, Trump v Biden, …. Ukraine Peace Talks v Arms Supply. |
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Post by bancroft on Mar 17, 2023 10:27:18 GMT
Dubdrifter Not so sure on the EU, there was or is a clip on youtube of Nuland and Blinken saying 'eff the EU, they will have to follow our lead.' There sure are elements in the EU that would like to include Ukraine though they have never had the military resolve to fight Russia. Soros is almost certainly had a big stake in BLM and I expect the Dems were on-board with that as it would create problems for Trump. Trump was a Republican maverick and so had the media groups largely against him and also the politicised FBI.
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Post by sword on Mar 17, 2023 15:07:47 GMT
As I mentioned before, I had a friend(sadly passed) who was a British tank commander who was captured inland at Dunkirk trying to hold back the Germans and buy time for the beach evacuation … he spent the war in a series of appalling prison camps where they all but starved … Red Cross parcels saved a few … he swapped his cigarettes for tins of condensed milk … that gave him just enough extra energy to survive the WINTER Long March at SS gunpoint - hundreds of miles north into Germany towards the end of the war, through snow and freezing rain as their boots fell apart … the bitter Siberian winds sweeping Europe from the East killed many at night … the smokers who faltered and collapsed got a bullet in the back of the head. When the war ended … he was a 6-stone ‘skeleton’. …. The Soros Posse warmongers in the WEST who engineered this new conflict back in 2014 … deserve stringing up for the destruction they’ve caused … and failing to sit at Putin’s negotiating table in Peace Talks in January ‘22 - when Ukraine was still intact. EU Leader Van der Leyen has been an evil bitch in all this … she knows the destruction of Ukraine was part of the Soros Energy/Resource land grab deal worth $$$$$billions to secure /infrastructure rebuild contracts … drag the Ukraine people into such desperation … they would be over a barrel to accept ANY shoddy EU Membership terms that would put them in debt for at least 50+ years.The Zionist Industrial/Banking Complex arguably did that to Britain and the whole of Europe over WW1+2. …luckily we avoided being dragged into the madness of Vietnam … another Commie witch-hunt like this latest Chinese conflict. They know how to push the propaganda narratives to suck stupid politicians into wasting our money and economies on bombs and guns. It’s time to remove them from all Media ownership and charge them with fermenting World Anarchy … that would stop this propaganda nonsense in it’s tracks … and common sense might then prevail amongst human beings on this planet. Stick the BBC Management in the dock too! … What a bunch of brazen LIARS they’ve become since 9/11 and Brexit. Soros though charities puts money into the US Democratic charity groups though doubt he was personally pushing for Ukraine to take on Russia that is more the US Dems with their pet hates. I don't think the EU wanted war expect some anti-Russian Poles it is just that the EU were not going to go against the US government. Think the EU realises without the US they can not really threaten Putin's regime. They may look to revise that approach over time. Most EU leaders are cowards,their Countries are US Colonies,all at the expense of their own people,its not reported here but there have been huge domonstrations all over Europe against Nato war mongering. |
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Post by wapentake on Mar 17, 2023 18:46:55 GMT
The truth was we were totally unprepared for war as witnessed by the debacle in 1940 which at the time of Munich would’ve been so much worse. As I mentioned before, I had a friend(sadly passed) who was a British tank commander who was captured inland at Dunkirk trying to hold back the Germans and buy time for the beach evacuation … he spent the war in a series of appalling prison camps where they all but starved … Red Cross parcels saved a few … he swapped his cigarettes for tins of condensed milk … that gave him just enough extra energy to survive the WINTER Long March at SS gunpoint - hundreds of miles north into Germany towards the end of the war, through snow and freezing rain as their boots fell apart … the bitter Siberian winds sweeping Europe from the East killed many at night … the smokers who faltered and collapsed got a bullet in the back of the head. When the war ended … he was a 6-stone ‘skeleton’. …. The Soros Posse warmongers in the WEST who engineered this new conflict back in 2014 … deserve stringing up for the destruction they’ve caused … and failing to sit at Putin’s negotiating table in Peace Talks in January ‘22 - when Ukraine was still intact. EU Leader Van der Leyen has been an evil bitch in all this … she knows the destruction of Ukraine was part of the Soros Energy/Resource land grab deal worth $$$$$billions to secure /infrastructure rebuild contracts … drag the Ukraine people into such desperation … they would be over a barrel to accept ANY shoddy EU Membership terms that would put them in debt for at least 50+ years.The Zionist Industrial/Banking Complex arguably did that to Britain and the whole of Europe over WW1+2. …luckily we avoided being dragged into the madness of Vietnam … another Commie witch-hunt like this latest Chinese conflict. They know how to push the propaganda narratives to suck stupid politicians into wasting our money and economies on bombs and guns. It’s time to remove them from all Media ownership and charge them with fermenting World Anarchy … that would stop this propaganda nonsense in it’s tracks … and common sense might then prevail amongst human beings on this planet. Stick the BBC Management in the dock too! … What a bunch of brazen LIARS they’ve become since 9/11 and Brexit. Well can’t fault you put a lot in to your posts,I agree regards Vietnam war but regards the rest no. |
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Post by Dubdrifter on Mar 18, 2023 7:20:44 GMT
Well can’t fault you put a lot in to your posts,I agree regards Vietnam war but regards the rest no. Which bit can’t you rationalise?🤔 I try and lean towards credible sources … when a number of those lined up … and patterns emerged that make sense … distrust in these Western MSM narratives soon gained traction … There were so many holes in the NATO/Ukraine history narratives why Putin was invading … and the BBC reporters initially were so far behind the Front Line and uninterested in Azov’s Nazi links or early atrocities - even going back before 2014 … it was embarrassing to listen to the BBC parroting the Pentagon/Biden version without question. As soon as the West ignored the ‘Peace Talks’ option and pumped in the weaponry … for me they lost the moral high ground and argument there and then … everything that followed was NATO’s fault … in the eyes of Free Thinkers and Humanitarians around the World. Once you cross that line … you open up the door for the worst types to engage. At that point I stepped out of those debates … no point defending either Army’s actions … if you don’t believe killing Russians or Ukrainians is a good idea. Sanctions are a bad idea. Energy/Resource robbery and greed of the Soros Posse is an evil we need to eradicate. World tax-payers deserve better Leadership. |
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Post by Vinny on Mar 18, 2023 18:40:44 GMT
As far as im concerned there are boundaries to free speech, and a boundary this website does not acknowledge. I find it wrong to have persons defending the indefensible, to say they can, under a banner of free speech is plain wrong. Its like Fred West bragging about his crimes to the local paper, defending them and justifying them, and the paper prints it. No sir. What a pathetic emotive example of an argument (the Fred West card!! … puleeeese! 😂🤪😱) - to shut down FREE SPEECH here … and those pointing out (with evidence) the WESTERN programme to destabilise Ukraine engineered since 2014 … by VP Biden, the Soros Posse, the EU, NATO/Pentagon ‘anti-Commie McCarthyites’. I’ve repeatedly mentioned the WEST’s refusal to push Zelenski to the PEACE negotiating table January ‘22 There is nothing to negotiate. Putin wants to destroy Ukraine. Ukraine are fighting for their lives. All that needs happen is for Russia to leave and the war is over. What is so difficult for you to understand ? It's not Ukraine who are bombing civilians, but Putin's thugs. |
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Post by Dubdrifter on Mar 19, 2023 9:02:41 GMT
What a pathetic emotive example of an argument (the Fred West card!! … puleeeese! 😂🤪😱) - to shut down FREE SPEECH here … and those pointing out (with evidence) the WESTERN programme to destabilise Ukraine engineered since 2014 … by VP Biden, the Soros Posse, the EU, NATO/Pentagon ‘anti-Commie McCarthyites’. I’ve repeatedly mentioned the WEST’s refusal to push Zelenski to the PEACE negotiating table January ‘22 There is nothing to negotiate. Putin wants to destroy Ukraine. Ukraine are fighting for their lives. All that needs happen is for Russia to leave and the war is over. What is so difficult for you to understand It's not Ukraine who are bombing civilians, but Putin's thugs. The easy bit to understand is the FACT the WEST and Soros were in Ukraine …. stirring up anarchy … Soros did it in America and the UK backing racists BLM … in the Ukraine … it was another thug faction Azov. …. And we know first hand how bullying the EU is … run by Zionists … They love destruction … engineered 9/11 and the destruction/destabilisation of the Middle East … trashing Ukraine wasn’t a worry for them … they make more money trashing Countries. … from rebuilding contracts. If Putin’s original goal was to trash Ukraine … strategically he would have gone about it in a totally different manner …. and not gone ‘around the the mulberry bush’!😮💨 Your reasoning doesn’t hang with the facts … or the recent history of Ukraine. … ho hum. |
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