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Post by Bentley on Apr 10, 2023 21:26:41 GMT
Brigitte Macron in response , penned a poem praising president XI Roughly translated , it goes One day when I dined with (Xi) Jinping. He did a most peculiar thing. He sat on a stool then pulled out his tool . Then he said ‘ If I play will you sing?” You have (1) new message from the Chinese Embassy concerning your visa application. It says ‘ velly solly’. 😉 |
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Post by Dubdrifter on Apr 11, 2023 3:51:34 GMT
Instead you support the Putin posse (who are a million times worse). And no, I don't like George "I made billions from Black Wednesday" Soros. That man is scum, compared to Putin, he's a saint, but compared to anyone normal, he's a parasitic greedy bastard scumbag. Nevertheless, Putin is even worse. Because of Putin, hundreds of thousands of Chechens, hundreds of journalists including Anna Politkovskaya, former FSB agent turned asylum seeker Alexander Litvinenko, scores of Russian politicians including Boris Nemtsov, and hundreds of thousands of Russian conscripts, are dead. Vinny, … Where have you ever seen me write anything that supports the KGB killings and skullduggery and thuggery of this complex situation? …. as people have fought for power and control over Russia and it’s resources … and former territories? Please understand 3 simple clear points: 1) I’m a hard-line humanist who is just dropping the same logic POV why Putin invaded Ukraine … nothing more. 2) why the WEST made a mistake interfering in the security of this region, supporting Soros Agendas is not something I will support in any shape or form. 3) like you acknowledge … these evil people are rotten on both sides of the fence … and we shouldn’t be supporting either side … just endeavouring to remove them all from WESTERN AND RUSSIAN Control … broker PEACE and stop this World Anarchy programme. When it comes to debating who is worse Putin, Xi or the Western Deep State US/CIA/Israeli/ISLAMIC Soros NATO Posse …. you have to look at 9/11 as the key moment when the domino effect of WESTERN collapse started to unravel the World. Internationally, I think the Soros Posse has had a bigger negative effect on World economies and Country by Country destruction … than Putin and Xi have engineered. Naturally the Jewish-controlled Media will spin it differently … When it comes to murders and genocide … the West .. and Americans and Israelis are better at whitewashing their back history. As individuals living in the WEST we have little influence in Russia or China to change their situation … but we can speak out effectively to influence Commonwealth people to vote differently and remove bad apples from our Administrations. Idealistically we reason that removing Dr Strangelove war-mongers and Globalist greed in the WEST can only improve the World situation and the health of our pseudo-democracies … even the plight of innocent individuals caught up in the malevolent ‘deadly game-playing’ of those fighting to control our Planet. |
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Post by Toreador on Apr 11, 2023 6:41:46 GMT
You have (1) new message from the Chinese Embassy concerning your visa application. It says ‘ velly solly’. 😉 Chinese restaurant.....customer says "This chicken is rubbery". Waiter replies, "Fank you velly much". |
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Post by Vinny on Apr 11, 2023 9:11:55 GMT
1) Ukraine is a sovereign country, it can do free trade deals / make military alliances with whoever it wants. 2) Can't stand Soros but at least he isn't an imperialistic war mongering invader trying to rebuild the Russian Empire. 3) 9/11 was Arab terrorists in retaliation for US support for Israel, plus revenge against the sanctions on Iraq, which had increased the infant mortality rates. Try reading Osama Bin Laden's fatwa sometime. This is a translation: www.911memorial.org/sites/default/files/inline-files/1996%20Osama%20bin%20Laden%27s%201996%20Fatwa%20against%20United%20States_0.pdfI don't deny that the USA and the allies have done bad things to the Middle East, but I don't defend the terrorists either, or imperialist dictators like Putin. And btw, look into the Moscow Apartment bombings, they really were an inside job. One of the bombings was discussed in the Duma three days before it happened due to an FSB cock up. |
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Post by Dubdrifter on Apr 12, 2023 2:17:11 GMT
I’m not disputing any of the above, Vinny … never have. … Who knows the truth when these ‘players’ fog the Mix?
… I’m just pointing out the rough dates the WEST/NATO/EU/SOROS started seriously meddling in Ukraine/Russian affairs. ….. @ 2014
Ukraine knew it’s history and responsibilities to Russia regarding security in the region … “sovereign state with strings” is a more accurate description.
It’s important not to ignore the CIA/Israeli Agendas worldwide … that attacked and worked to depose and destroy any socialist government in Central/S. America, Africa etc … branding them all Communist
…. do you think these Deep State attacks respected the Sovereignty of these Countries when they embarked on these virulent programmes/pogroms to eradicate Socialist thinking? … and bully Capitalism to rule Countries … making a mockery of Democracy??
Read the memoirs of CIA Operatives in these regions to realise what was going on … American/Zionist Imperialism doesn’t respect systems of Government - by The People, for the People. ….
The WEST can’t commit many more 😎murders than Putin on all Continents, invade other Countries, compromise their Sovereignty … then lecture Putin and Xi ….
…. it just stinks of hypocrisy. 🙄
Even you must recognise the calibre of Leadership currently being promoted to reach the TOP in Western politics today by their MSM … is woefully poor … either choice for the Electorate is ‘compromised’ … and if anyone with a certain independence emerges … they will be assassinated or taken down … in the way they destroyed Trump.
EVIL PEOPLE.
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Post by Orac on Apr 12, 2023 8:56:38 GMT
Democracy with strings
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Post by Bentley on Apr 12, 2023 9:21:53 GMT
I’m not disputing any of the above, Vinny … never have. … Who knows the truth when these ‘players’ fog the Mix? … I’m just pointing out the rough dates the WEST/NATO/EU/SOROS started seriously meddling in Ukraine/Russian affairs. ….. @ 2014 Ukraine knew it’s history and responsibilities to Russia regarding security in the region … “sovereign state with strings” is a more accurate description. It’s important not to ignore the CIA/Israeli Agendas worldwide … that attacked and worked to depose and destroy any socialist government in Central/S. America, Africa etc … branding them all Communist …. do you think these Deep State attacks respected the Sovereignty of these Countries when they embarked on these virulent programmes/pogroms to eradicate Socialist thinking? … and bully Capitalism to rule Countries … making a mockery of Democracy?? Read the memoirs of CIA Operatives in these regions to realise what was going on … American/Zionist Imperialism doesn’t respect systems of Government - by The People, for the People. …. The WEST can’t commit many more 😎murders than Putin on all Continents, invade other Countries, compromise their Sovereignty … then lecture Putin and Xi …. …. it just stinks of hypocrisy. 🙄 Even you must recognise the calibre of Leadership currently being promoted to reach the TOP in Western politics today by their MSM … is woefully poor … either choice for the Electorate is ‘compromised’ … and if anyone with a certain independence emerges … they will be assassinated or taken down … in the way they destroyed Trump. EVIL PEOPLE. If Russia prevails over Ukraine , the US withdraws from challenging China and the consequences are that the East becomes dominant over the West. How exactly will you benefit? |
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Post by Orac on Apr 12, 2023 9:32:29 GMT
I’m not disputing any of the above, Vinny … never have. … Who knows the truth when these ‘players’ fog the Mix? … I’m just pointing out the rough dates the WEST/NATO/EU/SOROS started seriously meddling in Ukraine/Russian affairs. ….. @ 2014 Ukraine knew it’s history and responsibilities to Russia regarding security in the region … “sovereign state with strings” is a more accurate description. It’s important not to ignore the CIA/Israeli Agendas worldwide … that attacked and worked to depose and destroy any socialist government in Central/S. America, Africa etc … branding them all Communist …. do you think these Deep State attacks respected the Sovereignty of these Countries when they embarked on these virulent programmes/pogroms to eradicate Socialist thinking? … and bully Capitalism to rule Countries … making a mockery of Democracy?? Read the memoirs of CIA Operatives in these regions to realise what was going on … American/Zionist Imperialism doesn’t respect systems of Government - by The People, for the People. …. The WEST can’t commit many more 😎murders than Putin on all Continents, invade other Countries, compromise their Sovereignty … then lecture Putin and Xi …. …. it just stinks of hypocrisy. 🙄 Even you must recognise the calibre of Leadership currently being promoted to reach the TOP in Western politics today by their MSM … is woefully poor … either choice for the Electorate is ‘compromised’ … and if anyone with a certain independence emerges … they will be assassinated or taken down … in the way they destroyed Trump. EVIL PEOPLE. If Russia prevails over Ukraine , the US withdraws from challenging China and the consequences are that the East becomes dominant over the West. How exactly will you benefit? Sure, but it like the Irish joke - "I wouldn't set off from here" Rather than coming to some sensible arrangement with Russia - who really isn't any palpable threat to the west - some clever kids decided they absolutely needed to put Putin in his place and show him who is boss by pissing on his shoes. Now we are stuck with the shift that vanity project has caused. Rock and hard place. |
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Post by Bentley on Apr 12, 2023 9:47:09 GMT
If Russia prevails over Ukraine , the US withdraws from challenging China and the consequences are that the East becomes dominant over the West. How exactly will you benefit? Sure, but it like the Irish joke - "I wouldn't set off from here" Rather than coming to some sensible arrangement with Russia - who really isn't any palpable threat to the west - some clever kids decided they absolutely needed to put Putin in his place and show him who is boss by pissing on his shoes. Now we are stuck with the shift that vanity project has caused. Rock and hard place. Yes we are stuck but that didn't mean that it’s not vital to win . Europe has gained a lot by being compliant to the US . If China gains world hegemony then the west will become the new third world. We are members of a gang and that gang needs to be stronger than the rival gangs. Thats the reality of it. |
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Post by Orac on Apr 12, 2023 12:04:14 GMT
Sure, but it like the Irish joke - "I wouldn't set off from here" Rather than coming to some sensible arrangement with Russia - who really isn't any palpable threat to the west - some clever kids decided they absolutely needed to put Putin in his place and show him who is boss by pissing on his shoes. Now we are stuck with the shift that vanity project has caused. Rock and hard place. Yes we are stuck but that didn't mean that it’s not vital to win . Europe has gained a lot by being compliant to the US . If China gains world hegemony then the west will become the new third world. We are members of a gang and that gang needs to be stronger than the rival gangs. Thats the reality of it. I am being continually told by my government and related institutions that we are not a gang, but just a strand in the global community, and that our culture is an artefact of an historic evil that needs to be dismantled. Further, that, to aid this cultural dismantling, our borders need to be held open so foreign criminals can assault and demoralise the population and replace our culture with theirs. I'm sensing a bit of a narrative gap here. |
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Post by Bentley on Apr 12, 2023 12:25:03 GMT
Yes we are stuck but that didn't mean that it’s not vital to win . Europe has gained a lot by being compliant to the US . If China gains world hegemony then the west will become the new third world. We are members of a gang and that gang needs to be stronger than the rival gangs. Thats the reality of it. I am being continually told by my government and related institutions that we are not a gang, but just a strand in the global community, and that our culture is an artefact of an historic evil that needs to be dismantled. Further, that, to aid this cultural dismantling, our borders need to be held open so foreign criminals can assault and demoralise the population and replace our culture with theirs. I'm sensing a bit of a narrative gap here. Of course you are. That’s what governments do. |
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Post by Orac on Apr 12, 2023 12:32:07 GMT
I am being continually told by my government and related institutions that we are not a gang, but just a strand in the global community, and that our culture is an artefact of an historic evil that needs to be dismantled. Further, that, to aid this cultural dismantling, our borders need to be held open so foreign criminals can assault and demoralise the population and replace our culture with theirs. I'm sensing a bit of a narrative gap here. Of course you are. That’s what governments do. It's certainly what ours do In preparation for WW3, perhaps there needs to be some kind of government announcement that we have decided to change direction entirely and be a nation |
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Post by Bentley on Apr 12, 2023 12:39:15 GMT
Of course you are. That’s what governments do. It's certainly what ours do In preparation for WW3, perhaps there needs to be some kind of government announcement that we have decided to change direction entirely and be a nation Look at Ukraine. The help for Ukraine isn’t being seen a national affair. It’s seen as an effort by NATO. Russia is a long way from bring a direct thread to the UK. |
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Post by Orac on Apr 12, 2023 12:53:24 GMT
It's certainly what ours do In preparation for WW3, perhaps there needs to be some kind of government announcement that we have decided to change direction entirely and be a nation Look at Ukraine. The help for Ukraine isn’t being seen a national affair. It’s seen as an effort by NATO. Russia is a long way from bring a direct thread to the UK. I can't see that marketing slogan withstanding much adversity |
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Post by Bentley on Apr 12, 2023 12:58:42 GMT
Look at Ukraine. The help for Ukraine isn’t being seen a national affair. It’s seen as an effort by NATO. Russia is a long way from bring a direct thread to the UK. I can't see that marketing slogan withstanding much adversity I’m not sure that our government claims that our nation doesn’t exist neither do they refer to gangs of nations . I am saying that we are a member of a gang. There are gangs within gangs and some gangs overlap but imo the West and its allies are a distinct gang just as China , North Korea , Russia and Iran is distinct gang. |
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