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Post by Vinny on Apr 6, 2023 9:14:36 GMT
Dubdrifter, tens of thousands of civilians have been killed in an illegal invasion of Ukraine, an invasion based on Putin's lies.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Apr 7, 2023 10:51:47 GMT
Scientists tell us a huge % of the Universe is made of Dark Matter, that calculations show us Dark Energy is real, worm holes in Space are possible, and the Multiverse is very likely now … we can’t see it … but we roll with it. They tell us SPACE-TIME is REAL when we rationalise that TIME is just a human construct … and therefore can have no physical reality …. and therefore accelerating backwards or forwards in TIME is an illusion created by errors in our clocks. What is REAL … is the evidence that Biden, the CIA, Soros and his Posse and NATO/EU Expansionists were in Ukraine @2014 onwards actively working to destroy the security of Russia and destabilise the Eastern Region with access to the Black Sea.
Now put that in your collective delusional brains that say Putin had no mandate to intervene and address that worsening situation over the following 8 years. |
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Post by Bentley on Apr 7, 2023 10:59:08 GMT
Scientists tell us a huge % of the Universe is made of Dark Matter, that calculations show us Dark Energy is real, worm holes in Space are possible, and the Multiverse is very likely now … we can’t see it … but we roll with it. They tell us SPACE-TIME is REAL when we rationalise that TIME is just a human construct … and therefore can have no physical reality …. and therefore accelerating backwards or forwards in TIME is an illusion created by errors in our clocks. What is REAL … is the evidence that Biden, the CIA, Soros and his Posse and NATO/EU Expansionists were in Ukraine @2014 onwards actively working to destroy the security of Russia and destabilise the Eastern Region with access to the Black Sea.
Now put that in your collective delusional brains that say Putin had no mandate to intervene and address that worsening situation over the following 8 years.The West encouraged Ukraine to move out of Russians sphere of influence and gravitate towards the West. Russia responded by making an ill advised and bloody land grab , that up to now has failed . All of the violence, destruction and rape has come from Russia. |
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Post by Dubdrifter on Apr 7, 2023 10:59:27 GMT
Dubdrifter, tens of thousands of civilians have been killed in an illegal invasion of Ukraine, an invasion based on Putin's lies. … Haven’t we already discussed the hundreds of thousands +++++ possibly millions since WW2 … killed by American Imperialism and illegal invasions? …. Not forgetting the civilian casualties of CIA secret operations and terrorism?? … now scuttle away and process that FACT.🤔 |
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Post by Bentley on Apr 7, 2023 11:01:29 GMT
Dubdrifter, tens of thousands of civilians have been killed in an illegal invasion of Ukraine, an invasion based on Putin's lies. … Haven’t we already discussed the hundreds of thousands +++++ possibly millions since WW2 … killed by American Imperialism and illegal invasions? …. Not forgetting the civilian casualties of CIA secret operations and terrorism?? … now scuttle away and process that FACT.🤔 Whataboutery . Two wrongs make a right . Try again. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2023 11:21:50 GMT
I dont want to hear from ProVox, I am convinced that the man is a Russian propogandist
No grievence should ever be resolved by disregarding internationally recognised borders, unless a nation has made a clear threat, and at no time ever has Ukraine made any threat towards Russia.
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Post by Hutchyns on Apr 7, 2023 13:25:36 GMT
Bentley
I'm not sure that's entirely true. If you think back to when Ukraine's democratically elected Government was overthrown, those who took control of Kiev (irrespective of who may have backed them and funded them in their plan) were only able to take a certain portion of the country. The Donbass and Crimea regions for example held firm and never agreed to buckle under and take instructions from those who had taken control of the Government buildings.
Since the 2014 coup those calling themselves the Ukrainian Government, up to and including the current Zelensky regime, were only ever able to impose their rule over part of the country, and if we'd lived in Russia during those intervening years we would have seen nightly on our television screens, violence and destruction being orchestrated by Kiev as they attempted to overpower those peoples who were never willing to accept their democratically elected Government being removed, or to surrender to the mercy of those who ruled in Kiev, but who exhibited an almost pathological hatred or anything or anyone with Russian connections.
The Minsk agreements were a seemingly peaceful solution to enable everyone to live relatively harmoniously and to end bloodshed and hostilities. What a pity those with influence didn't insist they be implemented rather than showing far more interest in building up military strength.
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Post by Bentley on Apr 7, 2023 15:44:44 GMT
Bentley I'm not sure that's entirely true. If you think back to when Ukraine's democratically elected Government was overthrown, those who took control of Kiev (irrespective of who may have backed them and funded them in their plan) were only able to take a certain portion of the country. The Donbass and Crimea regions for example held firm and never agreed to buckle under and take instructions from those who had taken control of the Government buildings. Since the 2014 coup those calling themselves the Ukrainian Government, up to and including the current Zelensky regime, were only ever able to impose their rule over part of the country, and if we'd lived in Russia during those intervening years we would have seen nightly on our television screens, violence and destruction being orchestrated by Kiev as they attempted to overpower those peoples who were never willing to accept their democratically elected Government being removed, or to surrender to the mercy of those who ruled in Kiev, but who exhibited an almost pathological hatred or anything or anyone with Russian connections. The Minsk agreements were a seemingly peaceful solution to enable everyone to live relatively harmoniously and to end bloodshed and hostilities. What a pity those with influence didn't insist they be implemented rather than showing far more interest in building up military strength. Or Donbas and Crimea were always part of Ukraine and Russia colluded with separatists so that it could retain access to strategically important areas. |
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Post by Steve on Apr 7, 2023 16:13:52 GMT
Back on topic . . . .
If ProVox was (as seems so) banned for insulting one of the Forum staff is it right if he is perma-banned when other mere mortal posters may well have suffered worse and had the staff put it down to 'the rough and tumble' of this forum with no action at all?
Time for parole for Pro Vox?
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Post by Bentley on Apr 7, 2023 16:18:10 GMT
Back on topic . . . . If ProVox was (as seems so) banned for insulting one of the Forum staff is it right if he is perma-banned when other mere mortal posters may well have suffered worse and had the staff put it down to 'the rough and tumble' of this forum with no action at all? Time for parole for Pro Vox? Oh the ironeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey! You do make me laugh Steve 😆 |
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Post by Steve on Apr 7, 2023 16:21:23 GMT
Back on topic . . . . If ProVox was (as seems so) banned for insulting one of the Forum staff is it right if he is perma-banned when other mere mortal posters may well have suffered worse and had the staff put it down to 'the rough and tumble' of this forum with no action at all? Time for parole for Pro Vox? Oh the ironeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey! You do make me laugh Steve 😆 Care to explain that James? |
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Post by Bentley on Apr 7, 2023 16:27:50 GMT
Oh the ironeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey! You do make me laugh Steve 😆 Care to explain that James? I can’t Steve . I can only refer to a certain thin skinned mod on another forum of whom imo was noticeably more lenient with some posters than others and tended to troll the posters he didn’t like until he could justify banning them . |
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Post by Steve on Apr 7, 2023 18:37:49 GMT
Care to explain that James? I can’t Steve . I can only refer to a certain thin skinned mod on another forum of whom imo was noticeably more lenient with some posters than others and tended to troll the posters he didn’t like until he could justify banning them . Still suffering those massive delusions again James. You're the sad prat that thinks I should have banned someone over there for posting 'So how many pseudonyms are you on for this Forum now?' or 'It was aimed squarely at stonefish, it was an assertion as in I bet he really would, kind of like the aussies deport highly naturalised citizens'
Well I didn't accede to your sad wish but to protect your pathetic snowflake sensitivity I did remove them from view, just like I didn't even warn let alone ban you for real personal attacks. Truth is James you are a sad troll to whom truth is an inconvenience to be circumvented.. |
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Post by Bentley on Apr 7, 2023 18:40:18 GMT
I can’t Steve . I can only refer to a certain thin skinned mod on another forum of whom imo was noticeably more lenient with some posters than others and tended to troll the posters he didn’t like until he could justify banning them . Still suffering those massive delusions again James. You're the sad prat that thinks I should have banned someone over there for posting 'So how many pseudonyms are you on for this Forum now?' or 'It was aimed squarely at stonefish, it was an assertion as in I bet he really would, kind of like the aussies deport highly naturalised citizens'
Well I didn't accede to your sad wish but to protect your pathetic snowflake sensitivity I did remove them from view, just like I didn't even warn let alone ban you for real personal attacks. Truth is James you are a sad troll to whom truth is an inconvenience to be circumvented.. Poor Stevie , so sad, so bitter. |
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Post by Steve on Apr 7, 2023 19:18:16 GMT
No, just find it hard to abide liars and their lies and people that try to pick on others to hide their own failings
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