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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2023 21:19:39 GMT
Yea yea the labour party arranged for Borris and his 80 law breakers to have a illegal party at the Tory HQ. Lol There was nothing illegal about it unlike starmers organised pissup..... This isa moment when a laughter icon is desperately needed so I can express the fact that I am laughing at such a ridiculous statement |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 3, 2023 22:33:34 GMT
Even those on the left see the issue - well some of them do..  |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 4, 2023 5:38:19 GMT
The cross-party committee maybe economical with the words used in their report but can't claim the Gray report had nothing to do with the decision. A 'smell' has been released and it will now taint all conversations on Partygate/Ms Gray now working for the Labour party. Starmer has scored 'an own goal' ahead of the the next PMQ's. Owen Jones blasts Starmer over Sue Gray as stunned Tory MPs agree with left-wing activist Story by Katie Harris • Yesterday 21:08 Owen Jones has hit out at Sir Keir Starmer for appointing partygate investigator Sue Gray as his chief of staff. The move has sparked uproar from Boris Johnson and his allies who insist it raises questions about the Privileges Committee's inquiry into whether he lied to the House of Commons over lockdown-breaking parties in Downing Street. And it has even attracted criticism from left-wing activist Mr Jones who took to Twitter today to blast Ms Gray's new Labour role. He said: "Labour's appointment of Sue Gray meets the 'would you think this is bad if the Tories did it' test, and anyone claiming otherwise isn't being honest with themselves." Mr Jones' post was retweeted by a number of stunned Tory MPs who said they agreed with him. Middlesbrough South and East Cleveland MP Simon Clarke said: "There is a first time for everything. I agree with Owen. "This is the key point - it's just a deeply unwise appointment, and damaging to the Civil Service in a way all parties should care about." www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/owen-jones-blasts-starmer-over-sue-gray-as-stunned-tory-mps-agree-with-left-wing-activist/ar-AA18c8gX?cvid=292666a38ec34e978dea356204007578&ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover&ei=5 |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 4, 2023 5:46:58 GMT
There was nothing illegal about it unlike starmers organised pissup..... This isa moment when a laughter icon is desperately needed so I can express the fact that I am laughing at such a ridiculous statementWhat's ridiculouse about it? A few friends in the same bubble sharing a few drinks and an impromptu Birthday party. It may surprise you it was NOT a law that was broken but just a guidline. Whereas starmers pissup had been planned weeks before it took place. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2023 8:56:20 GMT
A FPN is a fine.No they got fined because the police saw the evidence and that was worthy of the fine. I agree, the police did not seem interested until pressure was brought to bear but the fact that they were fined shows rules were. in the opinion of the investigators, broken, we should be asking why the police were not interested instead. Wrong....oh and BTW it doesn't make anyone a criminal before you start with that old BS. They broke the law. Why do you think the police were 'reluctant' to investigate, given that when they did they issued 126 fines? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2023 8:57:54 GMT
Even those on the left see the issue - well some of them do.. Cameron and Blair appointed civil servants as their chief of staff, why is this different? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2023 8:59:22 GMT
This isa moment when a laughter icon is desperately needed so I can express the fact that I am laughing at such a ridiculous statementWhat's ridiculouse about it? A few friends in the same bubble sharing a few drinks and an impromptu Birthday party. It may surprise you it was NOT a law that was broken but just a guidline. Whereas starmers pissup had been planned weeks before it took place. Starmer's 'pissup' was found to be within guidelines, get over it you wokie. |
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Post by buccaneer on Mar 4, 2023 10:01:06 GMT
This is no surprise to me. The Civil Service are supposed to be impartial, but they appear to be rather left leaning. They are also pro-European, owing to the number of EU nationals on their staff. She just highlights the problem with the civil service today they are politicised, and therefore they are far from impartial. Groupthink mentality straight from Oxbridge. Unfortunately, the civil service today believe and behave like continentals in the top-down approach - technocrats knowing what's best for the plebs; the bottom up democracy that was traditionally prevalent in Britain is being eroded. |
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Post by Orac on Mar 4, 2023 10:47:04 GMT
This is no surprise to me. The Civil Service are supposed to be impartial, but they appear to be rather left leaning. They are also pro-European, owing to the number of EU nationals on their staff. She just highlights the problem with the civil service today they are politicised, and therefore they are far from impartial. Groupthink mentality straight from Oxbridge. Unfortunately, the civil service today believe and behave like continentals in the top-down approach - technocrats knowing what's best for the plebs; the bottom up democracy that was traditionally prevalent in Britain is being eroded. This is also my view. The battle line is technocratic and top-down vs the kind of organic, unofficial and emergent society the UK has run successfully for quite a while now. This is why sections of the UK government (esp the civil service) see the bulk of the UK public as some kind of political enemy. It's the battle for the future shape of human civilisation. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 4, 2023 12:19:25 GMT
This is no surprise to me. The Civil Service are supposed to be impartial, but they appear to be rather left leaning. They are also pro-European, owing to the number of EU nationals on their staff. We have a Civil servent who post on here the Squeezed middle he certainly isnt left wing and wonder if he finds his work environment left wing or immpatial I find it left wing. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 4, 2023 12:20:50 GMT
But back to Sue Gray. Yeah, the whole thing now looks fishier than a kippers minge.
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Post by jonksy on Mar 4, 2023 12:52:43 GMT
What's ridiculouse about it? A few friends in the same bubble sharing a few drinks and an impromptu Birthday party. It may surprise you it was NOT a law that was broken but just a guidline. Whereas starmers pissup had been planned weeks before it took place. Starmer's 'pissup' was found to be within guidelines, get over it you wokie. No it wasn't. The only thing that saved starmer was the fact that he was supported by the swamp. |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 4, 2023 12:56:11 GMT
Wrong....oh and BTW it doesn't make anyone a criminal before you start with that old BS. Why do you think the police were 'reluctant' to investigate, given that when they did they issued 126 fines? No they didn't. There was no law that forbade those in the same bubble from having a drinkypoos. |
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Post by Handyman on Mar 4, 2023 16:08:00 GMT
They got fined because the police deemed the parties as 'illegal', because you may have got away with it it does not mean our law makers should. The police were not interested until they were leant on by the sanctimonious left....And they were not fined just issued a FPN was all.. Yes at least one in this thread does not understand that Boris nor anyone else working in Downing Street and there are lots of them in numerous offices were "Charged" with any Criminal Offence, they were issued with simple non-recordable Fixed Penalty Notices which gives you a choice to pay the penalty fine , or go to Court and argue the toss |
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Post by Handyman on Mar 4, 2023 16:08:49 GMT
But back to Sue Gray. Yeah, the whole thing now looks fishier than a kippers minge. |
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