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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2023 10:43:44 GMT
Only guilty party's need to be worried then. If there are no secrets she has nothing to tell. You think there is such a thing as a political party that has no secrets? How quaint. I am sure she would not disclose information that are state secrets until such time as members of the Labour party were in a position of power, that course could lead to prosecution and jail. The secrets she may reveal will be the gross incompetence/corruption within the Tory party and we are all entitled to see that. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2023 10:45:00 GMT
Planned betrayal as opposed to the Tory actual betrayal? I am sure other people can understand my post and reach the obvious conclusion. Why morally corrupt, she is free to work and associate with whomever she sees fit. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2023 10:45:54 GMT
I am sure other people can understand my post and reach the obvious conclusion. Why morally corrupt, she is free to work and associate with whomever she sees fit. I am sure other people can understand my post and reach the obvious conclusion. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 3, 2023 10:55:51 GMT
You think there is such a thing as a political party that has no secrets? How quaint. I am sure she would not disclose information that are state secrets until such time as members of the Labour party were in a position of power, that course could lead to prosecution and jail. The secrets she may reveal will be the gross incompetence/corruption within the Tory party and we are all entitled to see that. This is not about the Tory party, it has nothing to do with Conservative central office. This is about government ffs. This is about someone who for years has been in a very senior position at the very heart of government and will quite obviously be privvy to secrets and sensitive information. If you cant see a problem with that then imo, you're a pillock. |
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Post by wapentake on Mar 3, 2023 11:56:52 GMT
Of course they did and it is foolish for lawmakers to be lawbreakers ,what you cannot escape is that this appointment is at the least suspect. Westminster in the form of politicians and civil servants need reminding who they work for ,and it’s not themselves though that often seems to escape their notice. A civil servant is free to give up their job and work for another organisation. If you cannot see the problem I really can’t help you,what I’d do if I had my way would bar any civil servant taking up employment with any political party for ten years and the same for any ex minister whose brief covered a potential employer. |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 3, 2023 12:20:07 GMT
It was consumed by a few work colleuges who shared the same bubble....Who didn't FFS? Working in construction we were deemed and esential service during lockdown and worked during lockdown. Do you think that stopped us from taking a few bevies in on the last day of the week so we could have a drink? Did it f@ck and all we had to do was get a partner or friend which was whithin the rules to pick us up and take us home. , because you may have got away with it it does not mean our law makers should. The police were not interested until they were leant on by the sanctimonious left....And they were not fined just issued a FPN was all.. |
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Post by patman post on Mar 3, 2023 12:32:46 GMT
So where exactly is the stitch up?A civil servant is free to give up their job and work for another organisation. If you cannot see the problem I really can’t help you,what I’d do if I had my way would bar any civil servant taking up employment with any political party for ten years and the same for any ex minister whose brief covered a potential employer. When involved with recruitment, I cannot recall anyone under a restrictive covenant being put on gardening leave for any longer than six months. Usually it's been under three, even for some senior jobs. I doubt it would be easy to persuade a court to uphold anything longer...
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Post by Orac on Mar 3, 2023 13:52:41 GMT
Two soft coups on the trot - that's quite a bit of power
It is unclear whether the civil service is going to allow the British public to have another elected government
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2023 16:03:10 GMT
Why morally corrupt, she is free to work and associate with whomever she sees fit. I am sure other people can understand my post and reach the obvious conclusion. What you are saying is that many in the civil service are traitors and Sue Gray was one of them because they thought leaving the EU was bad for the UK, something that is quite apparent now. The Tories have been fiddling this country for over a decade and if she knows anything she should come forward like Oakshot of whom I have no time for either but on this occasion she did a service to our country. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2023 16:04:06 GMT
I am sure she would not disclose information that are state secrets until such time as members of the Labour party were in a position of power, that course could lead to prosecution and jail. The secrets she may reveal will be the gross incompetence/corruption within the Tory party and we are all entitled to see that. This is not about the Tory party, it has nothing to do with Conservative central office. This is about government ffs. This is about someone who for years has been in a very senior position at the very heart of government and will quite obviously be privvy to secrets and sensitive information. If you cant see a problem with that then imo, you're a pillock. And because of this you think she might be a traitor? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2023 16:07:35 GMT
They got fined because the police deemed the parties as 'illegal', because you may have got away with it it does not mean our law makers should. The police were not interested until they were leant on by the sanctimonious left....And they were not fined just issued a FPN was all.. A FPN is a fine. No they got fined because the police saw the evidence and that was worthy of the fine. I agree, the police did not seem interested until pressure was brought to bear but the fact that they were fined shows rules were. in the opinion of the investigators, broken, we should be asking why the police were not interested instead. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2023 16:08:41 GMT
So where exactly is the stitch up?A civil servant is free to give up their job and work for another organisation. If you cannot see the problem I really can’t help you,what I’d do if I had my way would bar any civil servant taking up employment with any political party for ten years and the same for any ex minister whose brief covered a potential employer. You, though do not make the rules. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2023 16:09:32 GMT
Two soft coups on the trot - that's quite a bit of power It is unclear whether the civil service is going to allow the British public to have another elected government Does the truth not matter the, or is it only in this case? |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 3, 2023 16:14:42 GMT
The police were not interested until they were leant on by the sanctimonious left....And they were not fined just issued a FPN was all.. No they got fined because the police saw the evidence and that was worthy of the fine. I agree, the police did not seem interested until pressure was brought to bear but the fact that they were fined shows rules were. in the opinion of the investigators, broken, we should be asking why the police were not interested instead. Wrong....oh and BTW it doesn't make anyone a criminal before you start with that old BS. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2023 17:46:37 GMT
So parties never happened in Downing street? What happened to the suitcases of booze? Of course they did and it is foolish for lawmakers to be lawbreakers ,what you cannot escape is that this appointment is at the least suspect. Westminster in the form of politicians and civil servants need reminding who they work for ,and it’s not themselves though that often seems to escape their notice.It's not for the good of the country, either. It's for mammon, the good of their bank balances. That's their number one priority. |
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