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Post by Bentley on Mar 1, 2023 16:40:13 GMT
England should stop stealing Scotland's electricity and the Scots should be allowed to keep it and feed the stuff to their bairns and rub it on their chests. That will bring the England to its knees I dont think any one of us europeans want to bring england to its knees. Thats unfair borkie. No one wants an anglo saxon banana republic in chaos on their doorstep.
What i dont understand is why is it the tory voting englishman has a meltdown when you tell him he is reliant on european nations like scotland for electricity , or france for example for fine wines , the spanish for tomatoes and of course johhny foreigners money passing through the square mile in your fine city?
We europeans arent trying to bring you to your knees. What we are trying to do is stop the geriatric fantasists playing with their toy redcoats , and bring you into the modern world instead of waffling on about how you had an empire once 100 years ago and how you are exceptional.
Im just surprised at the interest in this thread , and dare i say the "anger " im sensing about scotland daring to keep the lights on in England.
I thought nobody cared? Am i reading the room correctly? The only people I have seen waffling on about how the UK had an empire 100 years ago ( with much help from the Scots) is the people claiming that the English keep waffling on about us having an Empire 100 years ago. But what’s a lie when all roads lead Scot’s waffling on about independence? As for the leccy , of course we are going to buy our own energy .😉
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 1, 2023 18:10:44 GMT
You were the one prattling on about how offshore wind in Scotland keeps the lights on in England and it turns out England has ten times as much offshore wind farms. per head of population , scotland produces more than 18 times renewable energy than what england does.
It wasnt that long ago rishi the remainer was announcing scotlands oil and gas was to bail out the Yookay to the tune of £5 billion.
We also have 92 % of the uks hydro electric production , and we are of course the only part of the disunited kingdom that can feed itslef , power itself and fuel itself and still have plenty left to export. So currently you are supplying us with 0.7% of our energy needs - which is a third of what Belgium is currently supplying.. So Scotland keeping the lights on in England? - hardly..
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Post by Vinny on Mar 1, 2023 18:31:55 GMT
England should stop stealing Scotland's electricity and the Scots should be allowed to keep it and feed the stuff to their bairns and rub it on their chests. That will bring the England to its knees I dont think any one of us europeans want to bring england to its knees. Thats unfair borkie. No one wants an anglo saxon banana republic in chaos on their doorstep.
What i dont understand is why is it the tory voting englishman has a meltdown when you tell him he is reliant on european nations like scotland for electricity , or france for example for fine wines , the spanish for tomatoes and of course johhny foreigners money passing through the square mile in your fine city?
We europeans arent trying to bring you to your knees. What we are trying to do is stop the geriatric fantasists playing with their toy redcoats , and bring you into the modern world instead of waffling on about how you had an empire once 100 years ago and how you are exceptional.
Im just surprised at the interest in this thread , and dare i say the "anger " im sensing about scotland daring to keep the lights on in England.
I thought nobody cared? Am i reading the room correctly? England is not reliant on Scotland for electricity, it's already been demonstrated to you that your argument was bollocks. Look up the amount of off shore wind produced in England. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_offshore_wind_farms_in_the_United_KingdomOut of 13 gigawatts in the UK produced by our offshore wind farms, the ones in Scotland produce 1.858 gigawatts of that. Scotland's peak demand is 5.5 gigawatts. Electrical demand of the rest of Great Britain is 51 gigawatts. assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/302173/Tech_Annex.pdfCurrent capacity of Scottish hydro electric projects: 1.858 gigawatts. So lets dispel this anti England bollocks once and for all. The Hornsea wind farm project alone produces more electricity than all of Scotland's offshore wind farms.
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Post by om15 on Mar 1, 2023 18:42:36 GMT
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Post by bancroft on Mar 1, 2023 18:56:11 GMT
We could reduce the need for that by changing UK time so we no longer need to worry about Scots school kids walking in the dark.
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Post by sheepy on Mar 1, 2023 19:01:19 GMT
England's offshore wind farms total nameplate capacity: 11,044mw. Scotland's offshore wind farms total name plate capacity: 1,858mw. Argument that Scotland's offshore wind powers England, demolished. It all made me laugh, the fastest change from the thread header known.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2023 22:36:31 GMT
England should stop stealing Scotland's electricity and the Scots should be allowed to keep it and feed the stuff to their bairns and rub it on their chests. That will bring the England to its knees I dont think any one of us europeans want to bring england to its knees. Thats unfair borkie. I know you were replying to a jokey post, but you're European now are you? Previously you've proudly told us about your Scottish birth certificate and that you are Scottish, not British. I rather admire that stance. btw, I'm European, too, but the relevance of that is about geography, because I am English. Born in the Midlands and living in Kent. And yes, Scottish wind power is very good owing to the average wind speeds being higher oop north.
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Post by thomas on Mar 2, 2023 7:12:24 GMT
per head of population , scotland produces more than 18 times renewable energy than what england does.
It wasnt that long ago rishi the remainer was announcing scotlands oil and gas was to bail out the Yookay to the tune of £5 billion.
We also have 92 % of the uks hydro electric production , and we are of course the only part of the disunited kingdom that can feed itslef , power itself and fuel itself and still have plenty left to export. So currently you are supplying us with 0.7% of our energy needs - which is a third of what Belgium is currently supplying.. So Scotland keeping the lights on in England? - hardly.. Belgium is keeping your lights on too? Just shows how dependent you are on european nations , and makes you wonder why you voted for the disaster that was brexit.
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Post by thomas on Mar 2, 2023 7:17:16 GMT
I dont think any one of us europeans want to bring england to its knees. Thats unfair borkie. No one wants an anglo saxon banana republic in chaos on their doorstep.
What i dont understand is why is it the tory voting englishman has a meltdown when you tell him he is reliant on european nations like scotland for electricity , or france for example for fine wines , the spanish for tomatoes and of course johhny foreigners money passing through the square mile in your fine city?
We europeans arent trying to bring you to your knees. What we are trying to do is stop the geriatric fantasists playing with their toy redcoats , and bring you into the modern world instead of waffling on about how you had an empire once 100 years ago and how you are exceptional.
Im just surprised at the interest in this thread , and dare i say the "anger " im sensing about scotland daring to keep the lights on in England.
I thought nobody cared? Am i reading the room correctly? England is not reliant on Scotland for electricity, it's already been demonstrated to you that your argument was bollocks. Look up the amount of off shore wind produced in England. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_offshore_wind_farms_in_the_United_KingdomOut of 13 gigawatts in the UK produced by our offshore wind farms, the ones in Scotland produce 1.858 gigawatts of that. Scotland's peak demand is 5.5 gigawatts. Electrical demand of the rest of Great Britain is 51 gigawatts. assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/302173/Tech_Annex.pdfCurrent capacity of Scottish hydro electric projects: 1.858 gigawatts. So lets dispel this anti England bollocks once and for all. The Hornsea wind farm project alone produces more electricity than all of Scotland's offshore wind farms.
The Great British electricity swindle – How Scotland subsidises the UK’s energy
Many Scots are angry that as electricity standing charges increase they are having to pay more than most English consumers. At the same time, Scottish green energy producers are also being asked to pay much more than English power companies to connect to the grid.
Scotland is therefore effectively subsidising the rest of the UK’s energy – paying over the odds to provide it with renewable energy, and then paying over the odds again to buy some of that power back.
Ofgem allows energy companies to charge Scottish electricity consumers more in standing charges – despite the fact that they are closer to the source of renewable power. People looking out of their windows at wind turbines have to pay more to access electricity than someone in London.
These are essentially political choices made by the UK Government and its appointees on GEMA, Ofgem’s decision-making body. As long as Scotland is part of a UK energy network controlled from London, little can be done to change the situation.
Two-thirds of all renewable energy produced in the north of Scotland is exported south of the border, increasing the UK’s energy security and enabling it to reduce carbon emissions.
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Post by thomas on Mar 2, 2023 7:22:08 GMT
I dont think any one of us europeans want to bring england to its knees. Thats unfair borkie. I know you were replying to a jokey post, but you're European now are you? Previously you've proudly told us about your Scottish birth certificate and that you are Scottish, not British. I rather admire that stance. btw, I'm European, too, but the relevance of that is about geography, because I am English. Born in the Midlands and living in Kent. And yes, Scottish wind power is very good owing to the average wind speeds being higher oop north. i stand by that black. I have a scottish birth and marriage certificate , and im also european .
sure ....pretty much the point i have repeatedly made to you about myself being part of the geographical "british" island. Im scottish in nationality , british and european in geographical terms , im currently a uk citizen and used to be a european citizen until your country took that away.
Good for you. So you accept my premise about having multiple identities , so why cant you accept i too can have multiple identities?
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Post by thomas on Mar 2, 2023 7:23:05 GMT
It all made me laugh, the fastest change from the thread header known. i know sheepwash , but it was vinny i was replying to. Sometimes the big pictures helps him understand rather than the difficult words.
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Post by thomas on Mar 2, 2023 7:31:08 GMT
You are one to talk about facts when you thought scottish independence was all the invention of alec salmond and sturgeon , and didnt have a fucking clue previously about the three hundred years of the independence movement starting with lord seafields fist home rule bill in 1714.
While your above post is interesting , im not really sure of your point? Nuclear power production in scotland , like all other forms of energy production we excel at , is gradually being run down as the new renewable forms hopefully replace it in the long term.
Nuclear power accounted for 42.8 % of scotland electicity in 2016 , its now down according to your own link to 30 % of scotland electricty.
Whiule the tory government is begging the chinese and french to build nuclear for them to help keep englands lights on , and catch up with where France was 50 years ago , the rest of us europeans are moving onto renewables , which i think is a good thing.
So good point om. Thanks for showing scotland gradually weaning itself off nuclear.
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Post by thomas on Mar 2, 2023 7:33:14 GMT
I dont think any one of us europeans want to bring england to its knees. Thats unfair borkie. No one wants an anglo saxon banana republic in chaos on their doorstep.
What i dont understand is why is it the tory voting englishman has a meltdown when you tell him he is reliant on european nations like scotland for electricity , or france for example for fine wines , the spanish for tomatoes and of course johhny foreigners money passing through the square mile in your fine city?
We europeans arent trying to bring you to your knees. What we are trying to do is stop the geriatric fantasists playing with their toy redcoats , and bring you into the modern world instead of waffling on about how you had an empire once 100 years ago and how you are exceptional.
Im just surprised at the interest in this thread , and dare i say the "anger " im sensing about scotland daring to keep the lights on in England.
I thought nobody cared? Am i reading the room correctly? The only people I have seen waffling on about how the UK had an empire 100 years ago ( with much help from the Scots) is the people claiming that the English keep waffling on about us having an Empire 100 years ago. But what’s a lie when all roads lead Scot’s waffling on about independence? As for the leccy , of course we are going to buy our own energy .😉 You keep jumping on scottish threads bently to tell me you dont care about scotland ?
Aye ok bently
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Post by Vinny on Mar 2, 2023 7:34:19 GMT
Propaganda.
Laughable.
Look how little electricity Scottish offshore wind farms mentioned in the original post actually produce compared to the rest of the UK's offshore wind and concede that the original post was bollocks.
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 2, 2023 7:44:15 GMT
So currently you are supplying us with 0.7% of our energy needs - which is a third of what Belgium is currently supplying.. So Scotland keeping the lights on in England? - hardly.. Belgium is keeping your lights on too? Just shows how dependent you are on european nations , and makes you wonder why you voted for the disaster that was brexit. We buy most of our imported energy from Norway who are not, and never have been, in the EU.
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