Labour’s big idea?

He very clearly backed Corbyn both before and after the election. Are you suggesting that Corbyn is not/was not a Leftie?

I apologise for getting it wrong and then posting it Srb.

You have an intelligent brain but you appear to be unable to see any further than your committed political position. You could be working with Starmer helping him to help the country to move away from Tory domination and getting enough of the electorate to stop hating the very name Labour. A move to the left by Starmer could build up the opportunities for the country to become more social minded thus improving the living standard and the opportunities for more people to enjoy.

I have no idea whether Starmer will be successful or not, but he seems to be the only one with the opportunity at present.

Rayner isn't hard left lol.

She is a Social Democrat... like the majority of the population.

Unfortunately that doesn't include Starmer.

There is no point in Labour looking back to the late 1800s or early 1900s, The world has moved on, and IMO the Labour party should also move on, as they did with New Labour.

You are wholly lacking in insight because exactly the same is even more true of you. You are utterly unable to find fault or error in your own political persuasion as most of the rest of us can in ours, and thus utterly fail the impartiality test. Because it remains an inevitable fact that no one is perfect and all political persuasions make mistakes. I could if asked easily list many mistakes and failings by Corbyn and his then Labour party and of the left in general. I suspect most people here could if asked cite errors made by their own preferred political faction. Only you thus far seem incapable of doing so.

Just to prove that I am better at impartiality than you, here are some of the errors and flaws from my own political side. Corbyn himself, although idealistic, was too inflexible and lacked political pragmatism. He was also weak in challenging those attacking him, preferring to ignore it with contempt rather than challenging and fighting it, which as a strategy was wholly ineffective and gave his critics and their smears free rein to become the accepted narrative. On areas where he did not hold strong opinions - disastrously the EU when Brexit was the top issue - he too easily allowed himself to be swayed by the last person he spoke to all the time. He eventually got bored enough with the issue to allow Starmer and others to dictate Labour's Brexit strategy with electorally disastrous consequences rather than showing strong leadership himself.

In policy terms many mistakes were made, particularly in regards to the 2019 manifesto. Most of the 2017 manifesto policies were popular and Labour should have simply doubled down on them but costed them better. The promise of free broad band in 2019 lacked credibility and sufficient costings and was clearly a promise too far. Few people believed this was deliverable. And the promise to compensate the WASPI women re pensions would have cost a large sum which was entirely uncosted. This was a mistake. They'd have been better off putting this forward as an aspiration but only if it could be made affordable. More emphasis should also have been placed on the economic aspects of their policies to reassure the markets and the public, by stressing the moderately social democratic tenor of their policies and comparing them to other western nations where such policies had been in place for decades. This would have helped lay the lie that they were in any way extremists. 

The day I see you able to cite a similar balanced criticism of New Labour and/or Starmer and Blair, is the day I will see you walking the walk rather than simply talking the talk when it comes to impartiality.