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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2023 8:20:28 GMT
Did she make the choice though? Its hard to claim that without a trial. I don't think you need a trial to establish that she decided to leave. Are you so clever that you know what external influences were at work without any sort of evidence to produce? She 'may' have decided to leave of her own free will and also decided that she would chop peoples head off but without evidence they are just deluded claims of racists. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2023 8:26:36 GMT
When did I say the family bore no responsibility? You did not, I inferred that from your post. You could clarify and say in what way and to what level her parents and her community etc. have responsibility and if they do have what 'lessons will be learned' going forward. So far it seems only the state is to take on board responsibility by way of trials, legal challenges and incarceration if applicable. I think that her parents do have a big responsibility for their daughter as any family does but it is well known that some parents are not the 'best' and she 'may' well have been influenced negatively by them. This happens throughout our country to people of all religions and persuasions. Are people who have been treated thus, now to be treated solely as criminals or, as our laws state, should extenuating circumstances be listened to. That would have to be decided by a court of law after the evidence has been presented. Assuming guilt is what Russia and China do, are we that bad. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2023 8:26:59 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2023 8:27:33 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2023 8:28:14 GMT
That is the reason she and her two friends went there, to produce more fighters for ISIS When did she say that or are you lying. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2023 8:30:11 GMT
Oh you were there then were you and witnessed all these supposed events. Got a clever explanation of why we shouldn't bang you up in jail then? Unless of course you were just posting made up shite that suits your prejudices again Calm down Gladys. The fact that she got there and her remarks pretty much indicates it. If you have any evidence that she was kidnapped then post it. Mind reading won’t cut it .😁 A Canadian special forces operative got her there. |
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Post by jonksy on Feb 24, 2023 8:34:19 GMT
You would not know the truth if you fell arse over tit on it... |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2023 8:37:49 GMT
You would not know the truth if you fell arse over tit on it... She was under the age of 18, therefore a child by law. |
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Post by Toreador on Feb 24, 2023 8:38:32 GMT
I knew someone wouldn't get it, I should have known it would be you. |
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Post by jonksy on Feb 24, 2023 8:40:08 GMT
You would not know the truth if you fell arse over tit on it... She was under the age of 18, therefore a child by law. Total BOLLOCKS yet again.. |
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Post by Toreador on Feb 24, 2023 8:41:38 GMT
You would not know the truth if you fell arse over tit on it... She was under the age of 18, therefore a child by law. Not where she went to and she knew she was classified as a child, here, so why did she leave home? |
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Post by sandypine on Feb 24, 2023 9:10:59 GMT
You did not, I inferred that from your post. You could clarify and say in what way and to what level her parents and her community etc. have responsibility and if they do have what 'lessons will be learned' going forward. So far it seems only the state is to take on board responsibility by way of trials, legal challenges and incarceration if applicable. I think that her parents do have a big responsibility for their daughter as any family does but it is well known that some parents are not the 'best' and she 'may' well have been influenced negatively by them. This happens throughout our country to people of all religions and persuasions. Are people who have been treated thus, now to be treated solely as criminals or, as our laws state, should extenuating circumstances be listened to. That would have to be decided by a court of law after the evidence has been presented. Assuming guilt is what Russia and China do, are we that bad. Are you not just assuming the UK is guilty and must take responsibility? The question I am asking, which you keep dodging, is to what level does the Multicultural society have to take the blame? It is composed of individual communities and cultures and if one of those cultures produces problems for the other cultures, to a degree much greater than others, then should not that fact be recognised and addressed as a matter of urgency? |
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Post by Orac on Feb 24, 2023 9:24:30 GMT
I don't think you need a trial to establish that she decided to leave. Are you so clever that you know what external influences were at work without any sort of evidence to produce? She 'may' have decided to leave of her own free will and also decided that she would chop peoples head off but without evidence they are just deluded claims of racists. Influenced? Everyone is influenced. I thought you meant she might have been kidnapped. It is pretty evident she wasn't - ie she made the decision to go |
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Post by Bentley on Feb 24, 2023 10:06:34 GMT
Calm down Gladys. The fact that she got there and her remarks pretty much indicates it. If you have any evidence that she was kidnapped then post it. Mind reading won’t cut it .😁 A Canadian special forces operative got her there. Are you saying that the Canadian special forces operative kidnapped her? Because if you are not then you are posting a non point . |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2023 11:14:54 GMT
I knew someone wouldn't get it, I should have known it would be you. How do you know she did? |
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