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Post by bancroft on Oct 18, 2022 18:56:17 GMT
We could send military boats with drones a mile off the French coast to intercept and tow boats back to France. I suspect the French would complain. Let them complain. Relying on them to do the right thing for the UK is never going to work. Don't be taken in by all the soft soap. The French have been our enemies for most of the past 900 years. Yes only friends when the Germans or Russian are threatening Western Europe.......... |
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Post by johnofgwent on Oct 18, 2022 21:30:58 GMT
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/oct/14/markets-take-back-control-brexit-humiliation-britain-suezNo I was in fact going to rescue their satellite system which otherwise would have denied them the pleasure of the Eurovision Song Contest. And certain porn channels too. I think they were more concerned with not having the lattter TBH The journey was famous for my confrontation with a customs man On driving up I was pulled over and the car scanned meticulously for all sorts. I realised about half way through what they were looking for and quietly showed the bloke with the most gold braid my authorisation to work at the Royal Ordnance Factory. He scowled a bit muttered something about “why didn’t you show us this when we first approached you” and called his attack figs off. The last to leave was a proper Customs and Excise bloke. He apologised for the screwup and then remarked that I had failed to put anything in my Vauxhall Estate Tourer’s vast and cavernous boot I assured him I would rectify that on my return with a detour to “Cite Europe”. Decent booze at French prices On the way back who should be manning the Customs post but the same chap He pulled me over and asked if the contents of my boot, now carrying a metric tonne of at least 11% was ‘for personal consumption”. “Absolutely” I said. “That’s about a years worth, but feel free to demand a liver biopsy thereafter” And they say customs men have no sense of humour So. Your original rant is all about customs checks. And this amusing story is the same. Nothing to do with migration and asylum at all -- or this silly claim about France's supposed lack of cooperation on migration. The moral of your story is that the UK should have joined the SM and the CU. BTW, the gold-plated customs man was right -- why did you not show your authorisation letter or card in the first instance? It would have saved you all the hassle and the huffing and puffing. You weren't looking for a confrontation, were you? My ‘original rant’ as you put it was aimed at the twats who have tried to blame Brexit for start of school holiday delays caused by deliberately prearranged striking or absenteeism on the part of French private or state workers in key positions vital to the passage of tourists into the country, a stunt the bastards have enjoyed indulging in since the sixties long before we were in the EEC. The single market and customs union did nothing to ameliorate their deliberate industrial action aimed to sabotage the plans of tourists not just from the UK. As I pointed out a significant number of those pissed on are British and this is clearly a boost factor for the strikers |
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Post by Steve on Oct 18, 2022 21:48:30 GMT
I was listening to the Labour mouthpiece LBC this afternoon. . .  LBC was the mouthpiece of UKIP and Vote Leave Maybe you forget your avatar's regular appearances on it |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 19, 2022 8:06:58 GMT
LOL!  Maybe you forgot all of the other presenters. Farage is long gone, replaced by James O'Briens ongoing six year anti-Brexit diatribe. |
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Post by Steve on Oct 19, 2022 9:16:02 GMT
LOL! Maybe you forgot all of the other presenters. Farage is long gone, replaced by James O'Briens ongoing six year anti-Brexit diatribe. Hardly, O'Brien's been there for years and years Nick Ferrari still there? Very much a Brexit man |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2022 10:13:32 GMT
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/oct/14/markets-take-back-control-brexit-humiliation-britain-suezSo. Your original rant is all about customs checks. And this amusing story is the same. Nothing to do with migration and asylum at all -- or this silly claim about France's supposed lack of cooperation on migration. The moral of your story is that the UK should have joined the SM and the CU. BTW, the gold-plated customs man was right -- why did you not show your authorisation letter or card in the first instance? It would have saved you all the hassle and the huffing and puffing. You weren't looking for a confrontation, were you? My ‘original rant’ as you put it was aimed at the twats who have tried to blame Brexit for start of school holiday delays caused by deliberately prearranged striking or absenteeism on the part of French private or state workers in key positions vital to the passage of tourists into the country, a stunt the bastards have enjoyed indulging in since the sixties long before we were in the EEC. The single market and customs union did nothing to ameliorate their deliberate industrial action aimed to sabotage the plans of tourists not just from the UK. As I pointed out a significant number of those pissed on are British and this is clearly a boost factor for the strikers These twats are right, though. The root cause of the delays is Brexit -- additional checks at the borders since we're not in the EU anymore. What you seem to rant about now is the fact that the French aren't doing British tourists a favour by not going on strike or foregoing extra checks on passports and getting more border officials in place just because "the Brits are coming." But we're non-EU now; we chose to be non-EU, so we shouldn't be looking to them for favours. The SM and CU were not designed to prevent French industrial action aimed to sabotage our holiday plans. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Oct 19, 2022 10:29:16 GMT
My ‘original rant’ as you put it was aimed at the twats who have tried to blame Brexit for start of school holiday delays caused by deliberately prearranged striking or absenteeism on the part of French private or state workers in key positions vital to the passage of tourists into the country, a stunt the bastards have enjoyed indulging in since the sixties long before we were in the EEC. The single market and customs union did nothing to ameliorate their deliberate industrial action aimed to sabotage the plans of tourists not just from the UK. As I pointed out a significant number of those pissed on are British and this is clearly a boost factor for the strikers These twats are right, though. The root cause of the delays is Brexit -- additional checks at the borders since we're not in the EU anymore. What you seem to rant about now is the fact that the French aren't doing British tourists a favour by not going on strike or foregoing extra checks on passports and getting more border officials in place just because "the Brits are coming." But we're non-EU now; we chose to be non-EU, so we shouldn't be looking to them for favours. The SM and CU were not designed to prevent French industrial action aimed to sabotage our holiday plans. But the cause of the queues WASNT the extra paperwork. It was the fact all the fucking border officials supposed to process the paperwork fucked off to make life difficult for us brits just like they always do on a school holiday. But you try to twist that into something it clearly isn’t. If Brexit is the root cause of a six ? ten ? twenty mile queue, how come there isnt a queue when all the French scum report for work ? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2022 14:08:32 GMT
These twats are right, though. The root cause of the delays is Brexit -- additional checks at the borders since we're not in the EU anymore. What you seem to rant about now is the fact that the French aren't doing British tourists a favour by not going on strike or foregoing extra checks on passports and getting more border officials in place just because "the Brits are coming." But we're non-EU now; we chose to be non-EU, so we shouldn't be looking to them for favours. The SM and CU were not designed to prevent French industrial action aimed to sabotage our holiday plans. But the cause of the queues WASNT the extra paperwork. It was the fact all the fucking border officials supposed to process the paperwork fucked off to make life difficult for us brits just like they always do on a school holiday. But you try to twist that into something it clearly isn’t. If Brexit is the root cause of a six ? ten ? twenty mile queue, how come there isnt a queue when all the French scum report for work ? But that's just you talking. You must consider everyone's side. French authorities while admitting that French border officials were late coming to work by an hour or so were blaming the fact that everybody getting on the ferries including British tourists were subject to third-country border checks. Even the head honcho of the Port of Dover admitted that Brexit was ultimately to be blamed. And nobody is twisting anything. There were reports that queues were back the following weekend apparently. In any case, if you actually believe that the extra minute/minute and half it takes to check passport pictures and validity dates, etc. and then stamp them does not cause queues to form; then you are not living in the real world. |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 19, 2022 17:14:45 GMT
But the cause of the queues WASNT the extra paperwork. It was the fact all the fucking border officials supposed to process the paperwork fucked off to make life difficult for us brits just like they always do on a school holiday. But you try to twist that into something it clearly isn’t. If Brexit is the root cause of a six ? ten ? twenty mile queue, how come there isnt a queue when all the French scum report for work ? But that's just you talking. You must consider everyone's side. French authorities while admitting that French border officials were late coming to work by an hour or so were blaming the fact that everybody getting on the ferries including British tourists were subject to third-country border checks. Even the head honcho of the Port of Dover admitted that Brexit was ultimately to be blamed. And nobody is twisting anything. There were reports that queues were back the following weekend apparently. In any case, if you actually believe that the extra minute/minute and half it takes to check passport pictures and validity dates, etc. and then stamp them does not cause queues to form; then you are not living in the real world. Brexit has nothing to do with French border employees turning up for work..or not. |
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Post by Orac on Oct 19, 2022 17:23:00 GMT
Yes only friends when the Germans or Russian are threatening Western Europe.......... ..and then only grudgingly |
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 20, 2022 14:06:05 GMT
We're not involved. Any fuck ups are ours and any successes are ours. What we should be discussing is getting our own house in order. And right now our politicians are clearly shit. I concede our politicians are not up to the job at the moment, but what about mass illegal immigration from the EU state of Frog. Surely that's the EU's fault? |
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Post by Vinny on Oct 20, 2022 14:11:50 GMT
It's Macron's fault. France has the means to leave, re-establish border controls and keep out illegal immigrants. Every member state has the means to leave. Sure, the EU Operation Triton hasn't been much cop, but member state governments bear a lot of blame.
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Post by Steve on Oct 20, 2022 21:35:40 GMT
Red's closer to the truth. It is in part the EU's fault.
These cheating lying economic asylum tourists are arriving in France through Germany where they carefully don't apply for asylum. When they arrive in France IF they apply for asylum France rejects them as 'they've come from a safe country' (Germany) Germany then refuses to take them back as they've been out of Germany for too long. The EU's own agreements let them play this game. We should put his idiot stance into the melting point of settling the NI issue.
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 20, 2022 21:58:35 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2022 9:40:45 GMT
But that's just you talking. You must consider everyone's side. French authorities while admitting that French border officials were late coming to work by an hour or so were blaming the fact that everybody getting on the ferries including British tourists were subject to third-country border checks. Even the head honcho of the Port of Dover admitted that Brexit was ultimately to be blamed. And nobody is twisting anything. There were reports that queues were back the following weekend apparently. In any case, if you actually believe that the extra minute/minute and half it takes to check passport pictures and validity dates, etc. and then stamp them does not cause queues to form; then you are not living in the real world. Brexit has nothing to do with French border employees turning up for work..or not. Brexit has everything to do with the fact that British tourists are now subject to third-country border checks. |
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