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Post by jonksy on Feb 17, 2023 10:37:02 GMT
I suspect that if Labour win the next GE Starmer will be dealt the same fate as Theresa May and Boris Johnson and Liz Truss. Starmer might lead them to victory only because he's the best of a worst bunch, then they will have a vote of no confidence and swiftly replace him with Rayner, so she can implement the real Labour agenda, we wont have a say in Rayner taking over just like we never with May, Johnson and Truss, and we'll be stuck with no brains running the country, and I cringe to think what world leaders will make of her when she opens that big gob of hers, and we can only hope it's only her gob she opens. Could you imagine that slag on the world stage.....It dont bare thinking about... |
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Post by see2 on Feb 17, 2023 10:37:06 GMT
Don’t allow Slammer to rewrite history Opinion by Telegraph View • Yesterday 22:00 Slammer may well be reflecting on a good week for his party. Labour was deemed to be clear of the anti-Semitism that had seeped into its activities. The equalities watchdog said enough had been done to root it out, although leading Jews believe it remains below the surface, especially in trade unions and local parties. What is astonishing is that a mainstream political party had to be monitored at all for anti-Semitism. Slammer has also moved decisively against Labour’s Left, much as his predecessors Tony Blair and Neil Kinnock did in order to make the party electable. He said the Left-wingers who had rejoined under Jeremy Corbyn and were now unhappy were free to leave. Moreover, Mr Corbyn would not be a Labour candidate at the next general election.
Here, then, was the smack of firm leadership – or it would have been had slammer not sought to install Mr Corbyn as prime minister just over three years ago. When the latter stepped down after the 2019 election defeat, his successor said by way of an encomium: “He’s a colleague, he’s a friend and he’s led us through some really difficult times in the Labour Party. I respect him and thank him for what he’s done.” linkA bit like the look at the Tory party for being against Muslims. "Thank him for what he's done". Especially for resigning  Starmer under Corbyn was doing his best to unseat the Tories. Now that Corbyn has gone and Starmer is the new leader, Starmer has the freedom to change the direction of the party. And he wants to lead a party that will allow him to do that. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 17, 2023 10:38:13 GMT
I suspect that if Labour win the next GE Starmer will be dealt the same fate as Theresa May and Boris Johnson and Liz Truss. Starmer might lead them to victory only because he's the best of a worst bunch, then they will have a vote of no confidence and swiftly replace him with Rayner, so she can implement the real Labour agenda, we wont have a say in Rayner taking over just like we never with May, Johnson and Truss, and we'll be stuck with no brains running the country, and I cringe to think what world leaders will make of her when she opens that big gob of hers, and we can only hope it's only her gob she opens. Could you imagine that slag on the world stage.....It dont bare thinking about... It's stuff of nightmares jonks. |
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Post by see2 on Feb 17, 2023 10:46:13 GMT
Which one of his statements is untrue? Served in Jeremy Corbyn's Shadow Cabinet
Campaigned for him to become Prime Minister
Defended him from accusations of antisemitism
Called him a friend
Promised to keep his radical domestic policiesNone, they are all true. He also said that constituencies should not have a candidate for MP imposed on them but that is exactly what he is doing by banning Corbyn from standing as a Labour candidate. The man is a liar, just like Johnson or the vast majority of Tories. This country is f*cked. If the Lefties fuck it up again then Old Labour's horrific record for polishing the opposition benches will no doubt be added to. Corbyn was as Left as they come, yet he couldn't win the election. Some people never learn. |
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Post by see2 on Feb 17, 2023 10:49:06 GMT
I suspect that if Labour win the next GE Starmer will be dealt the same fate as Theresa May and Boris Johnson and Liz Truss. Starmer might lead them to victory only because he's the best of a worst bunch, then they will have a vote of no confidence and swiftly replace him with Rayner, so she can implement the real Labour agenda, we wont have a say in Rayner taking over just like we never with May, Johnson and Truss, and we'll be stuck with no brains running the country, and I cringe to think what world leaders will make of her when she opens that big gob of hers, and we can only hope it's only her gob she opens. Could you imagine that slag on the world stage.....It dont bare thinking about... Many say that love and hate are closely related |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2023 11:42:53 GMT
I suspect that if Labour win the next GE Starmer will be dealt the same fate as Theresa May and Boris Johnson and Liz Truss. Starmer might lead them to victory only because he's the best of a worst bunch, then they will have a vote of no confidence and swiftly replace him with Rayner, so she can implement the real Labour agenda, we wont have a say in Rayner taking over just like we never with May, Johnson and Truss, and we'll be stuck with no brains running the country, and I cringe to think what world leaders will make of her when she opens that big gob of hers, and we can only hope it's only her gob she opens. Well it is a theory, but there's one problem with this theory The number of Labour MPS of the "Left" ( very Left ) are a minority, and after the next general election will be an even smaller minority. As Manuel used to say on "Fawlty Towers" ... Its not possible |
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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 17, 2023 11:59:09 GMT
I suspect that if Labour win the next GE Starmer will be dealt the same fate as Theresa May and Boris Johnson and Liz Truss. Starmer might lead them to victory only because he's the best of a worst bunch, then they will have a vote of no confidence and swiftly replace him with Rayner, so she can implement the real Labour agenda, we wont have a say in Rayner taking over just like we never with May, Johnson and Truss, and we'll be stuck with no brains running the country, and I cringe to think what world leaders will make of her when she opens that big gob of hers, and we can only hope it's only her gob she opens. Well it is a theory, but there's one problem with this theory The number of Labour MPS of the "Left" ( very Left ) are a minority, and after the next general election will be an even smaller minority. As Manuel used to say on "Fawlty Towers" ... Its not possible I wouldn't bet on it if I was you, they've realised that being very left isn't a vote winner, so I suspect many of them are keeping their cards close to their chest, however if Labour did win the next election I think you can safely bet they will then come out of the woodwork. The voters will then realise they were conned.
Labour are desperate to get back back in to office, and if they don't do it now they never will, because the Tories have been all over the place, Labour are in the fortunate position that they don't have to say or do very much, in fact the least they say and the least they do appears to be working.
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Post by Toreador on Feb 17, 2023 12:42:46 GMT
Other than in your head it's to do with Starmer, not Johnson. So, in your opinion, a government lying to the electorate does not affect people? You should know by now I have no time for the mainstream parties so all I can say is I can spot governent lying in the same way I can spot lying from other parties, few tell the whole truth. |
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Post by see2 on Feb 17, 2023 16:45:38 GMT
Well it is a theory, but there's one problem with this theory The number of Labour MPS of the "Left" ( very Left ) are a minority, and after the next general election will be an even smaller minority. As Manuel used to say on "Fawlty Towers" ... Its not possible I wouldn't bet on it if I was you, they've realised that being very left isn't a vote winner, so I suspect many of them are keeping their cards close to their chest, however if Labour did win the next election I think you can safely bet they will then come out of the woodwork. The voters will then realise they were conned.
Labour are desperate to get back back in to office, and if they don't do it now they never will, because the Tories have been all over the place, Labour are in the fortunate position that they don't have to say or do very much, in fact the least they say and the least they do appears to be working.
The Lefties didn't come out of the woodwork under new Labour, so your 'project fear' has little to go on. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 17, 2023 16:53:49 GMT
I wouldn't bet on it if I was you, they've realised that being very left isn't a vote winner, so I suspect many of them are keeping their cards close to their chest, however if Labour did win the next election I think you can safely bet they will then come out of the woodwork. The voters will then realise they were conned.
Labour are desperate to get back back in to office, and if they don't do it now they never will, because the Tories have been all over the place, Labour are in the fortunate position that they don't have to say or do very much, in fact the least they say and the least they do appears to be working.
The Lefties didn't come out of the woodwork under new Labour, so your 'project fear' has little to go on. What are you going on about, new Labour was formed in 1996 under Blair, or is there a new new Labour?
since then we've had far-left Corbyn and most of his old cronies are still on the front benches.
stop wasting cyberspace.
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Post by vlk on Feb 17, 2023 17:02:59 GMT
The Tories really can't do anything themselves to avoid defeat in the next election. However, Labour could do something stupid to destroy their looming election-victory and that is not impossible. Such a stupid thing would be to bring back Jeremy Corbyn.
Besides, isn't Corbyn himself quite old already? We see across the big water what happens when political leaders don't realise when it is time to retire.
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Post by sword on Feb 17, 2023 17:23:15 GMT
Don’t allow Slammer to rewrite history Opinion by Telegraph View • Yesterday 22:00 Slammer may well be reflecting on a good week for his party. Labour was deemed to be clear of the anti-Semitism that had seeped into its activities. The equalities watchdog said enough had been done to root it out, although leading Jews believe it remains below the surface, especially in trade unions and local parties. What is astonishing is that a mainstream political party had to be monitored at all for anti-Semitism. Slammer has also moved decisively against Labour’s Left, much as his predecessors Tony Blair and Neil Kinnock did in order to make the party electable. He said the Left-wingers who had rejoined under Jeremy Corbyn and were now unhappy were free to leave. Moreover, Mr Corbyn would not be a Labour candidate at the next general election.
Here, then, was the smack of firm leadership – or it would have been had slammer not sought to install Mr Corbyn as prime minister just over three years ago. When the latter stepped down after the 2019 election defeat, his successor said by way of an encomium: “He’s a colleague, he’s a friend and he’s led us through some really difficult times in the Labour Party. I respect him and thank him for what he’s done.” linkA bit like the look at the Tory party for being against Muslims. "Thank him for what he's done". Especially for resigning Starmer under Corbyn was doing his best to unseat the Tories. Now that Corbyn has gone and Starmer is the new leader, Starmer has the freedom to change the direction of the party. And he wants to lead a party that will allow him to do that. Lead it where? i told you he has thrown more jews out of the party than any other party,how is that for a touch of antisemitism,or doesn't that count? |
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Post by sword on Feb 17, 2023 17:27:17 GMT
The Lefties didn't come out of the woodwork under new Labour, so your 'project fear' has little to go on. What are you going on about, new Labour was formed in 1996 under Blair, or is there a new new Labour?
since then we've had far-left Corbyn and most of his old cronies are still on the front benches.
stop wasting cyberspace.
Corbyn far left? what was far left about about protecting the NHS bringing back the utilities into state control and not following America into war after war,if anything Corbyn was too soft,i would have sued the arse of all those bastards who called him anti semitic for libel,good job they were not dealing with Galloway he has previous for taking those bastards to the cleaners. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 17, 2023 17:38:28 GMT
What are you going on about, new Labour was formed in 1996 under Blair, or is there a new new Labour?
since then we've had far-left Corbyn and most of his old cronies are still on the front benches.
stop wasting cyberspace.
Corbyn far left? what was far left about about protecting the NHS bringing back the utilities into state control and not following America into war after war,if anything Corbyn was too soft,i would have sued the arse of all those bastards who called him anti semitic for libel,good job they were not dealing with Galloway he has previous for taking those bastards to the cleaners. Corbyn would have given Putin anything he wanted, he wanted to do away with nuclear weapons, rendering the UK a sitting duck, in favour of sitting down and having a cuppa with Putin, his Marxism was blatant, a great admirer of Marx and Engels, yes Corbyn was/is far-left, and Labour will lose the next GE if there is even a whisper of bringing him back in to the fold. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2023 17:43:05 GMT
I suspect that if Labour win the next GE Starmer will be dealt the same fate as Theresa May and Boris Johnson and Liz Truss. Starmer might lead them to victory only because he's the best of a worst bunch, then they will have a vote of no confidence and swiftly replace him with Rayner, so she can implement the real Labour agenda, we wont have a say in Rayner taking over just like we never with May, Johnson and Truss, and we'll be stuck with no brains running the country, and I cringe to think what world leaders will make of her when she opens that big gob of hers, and we can only hope it's only her gob she opens. No they will replace him with Corbyn.🤣 |
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Starmer under Corbyn was doing his best to unseat the Tories. Now that Corbyn has gone and Starmer is the new leader, Starmer has the freedom to change the direction of the party. And he wants to lead a party that will allow him to do that.
