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Post by see2 on Feb 16, 2023 17:35:30 GMT
.. and here's me thinking he was masquerading as the Labour leader. No he is the leader of the present Labour party which is no more socialist than the BNP. LIAR. |
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Post by Toreador on Feb 16, 2023 17:36:22 GMT
It's all a clever plan. As soon as Labour win the election Starmer will re-instate Corbyn and make him Foreign Secretary, re-instate the 21019 manifesto and go from there. No one will care that he lied, the Tories have made it acceptable, in fact desirable. But I cam see all the 'pearl clutching' right wingers and Brexiteers pulling their hair out. 🤣 As you sow so shall you reap. That will barely affect me. Brexiters may pull their hair out, Remnants have been doing it for nearly 7 years. |
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Post by see2 on Feb 16, 2023 17:38:49 GMT
No he is the leader of the present Labour party which is no more socialist than the BNP. Actually the BNP are overall much more Socialist than the current Labour party and in fact have policies that many people agree with. That may be uncomfortable but it is very much the case. But not uncomfortable with right-wingers. |
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Post by see2 on Feb 16, 2023 17:45:26 GMT
It's all a clever plan. As soon as Labour win the election Starmer will re-instate Corbyn and make him Foreign Secretary, re-instate the 21019 manifesto and go from there. No one will care that he lied, the Tories have made it acceptable, in fact desirable. But I cam see all the 'pearl clutching' right wingers and Brexiteers pulling their hair out. 🤣 As you sow so shall you reap. That will barely affect me. Brexiters may pull their hair out, Remnants have been doing it for nearly 7 years. Here is one remainer that laughs at the misguided Brexshitters. I think that sometime soon they will have to develop enough sense of humour to be able to laugh at themselves. |
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Post by Toreador on Feb 16, 2023 17:49:18 GMT
That will barely affect me. Brexiters may pull their hair out, Remnants have been doing it for nearly 7 years. Here is one remainer that laughs at the misguided Brexshitters. I think that sometime soon they will have to develop enough sense of humour to be able to laugh at themselves.We probably will when we've finished with the Remnants, so maybe a fewe years to go.   |
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Post by see2 on Feb 16, 2023 17:54:27 GMT
Here is one remainer that laughs at the misguided Brexshitters. I think that sometime soon they will have to develop enough sense of humour to be able to laugh at themselves.We probably will when we've finished with the Remnants, so maybe a few years to go. He who laughs last ?  |
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 16, 2023 18:19:17 GMT
Back me or quit ... Starmer tells the hard Left "we are never going back" says leader in ultimatum to Corbynistas.  |
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Post by Handyman on Feb 16, 2023 19:11:36 GMT
Back me or quit ... Starmer tells the hard Left "we are never going back" says leader in ultimatum to Corbynistas. Starmer, used to be indecisive , now he's not so sure about that either  |
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Post by sword on Feb 16, 2023 19:33:31 GMT
He is the Red tory masquerading as a Socialist and apologising for something that never happened. That you haven't a clue is nothing new. well thats what he is,he has thrown more jews out of the labour party than all other parties put together because they are the wrong sort of jew. |
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Post by sword on Feb 16, 2023 19:35:35 GMT
Back me or quit ... Starmer tells the hard Left "we are never going back" says leader in ultimatum to Corbynistas. Jones is right,not what some people like to admit. |
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Post by sheepy on Feb 16, 2023 19:47:29 GMT
Complete madness he doesn't even have 20% of the electorate behind him and the Tories even less between all of them they struggle to reach 30%.
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Post by sandypine on Feb 16, 2023 20:20:32 GMT
Actually the BNP are overall much more Socialist than the current Labour party and in fact have policies that many people agree with. That may be uncomfortable but it is very much the case. But not uncomfortable with right-wingers. If that were indeed the case then their support would be extremely large, it is not as they are largely viewed as Socialist in nature as evidenced by many of their policies. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2023 20:28:30 GMT
The militant Left have always held the Labour Party back from attaining government
In 1978 the militant trade unions went against a Labour government which been successful in bringing down inflation, car workers demanded a 17% pay rise when inflation was 9%.
It was the militant unions and militant leaders such as Terry Duffy who destroyed Jim Callaghans "Prices & Incomes Policy" and handed the 1979 election on a silver platter to Margaret Thatcher.
The 1983 general election saw one of the biggest Conservative majorities in history, with Labour fronting a Left wing agenda headed by Michael Foot.
The problem for Neil Kinnock was that much of the agenda was inherited from Michael Foots era, and defence was a key issue at the 1987 election, with Labour still promoting unilateral dissarmament, and with Kinnock battling the Militant Tendancy, it was all a recipe for the Tories winning again.
At last ... electable Labour came in the guise of "New Labour" and Tony Blair, BINGO ... the biggest Labour majority in history and three consecutive wins.
Then ... a return back to the old Left, Jeremy Corbyn, humiliating defeat, a 90 strong Tory majority, the rest is recent history.
Evidence speaks for itself, time and time again the public have turned on Labour when it moves Left and supports economic madness and militancy.
Keir Starmer is Neil Kinnock, is Hugh Gaitskill and James Callaghan, and he's John Smith ... He's not Michael Foot, Jeremy Corbyn or Ken Livingtone.
We have a leader of the Labour Party staring at the prospect of government, sraring at a 20 point lead in the polls, something that Blair achieved, something that Mr Foot or Mr Corbyn never achieved.
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Post by sword on Feb 16, 2023 21:57:42 GMT
The militant Left have always held the Labour Party back from attaining government In 1978 the militant trade unions went against a Labour government which been successful in bringing down inflation, car workers demanded a 17% pay rise when inflation was 9%. It was the militant unions and militant leaders such as Terry Duffy who destroyed Jim Callaghans "Prices & Incomes Policy" and handed the 1979 election on a silver platter to Margaret Thatcher. The 1983 general election saw one of the biggest Conservative majorities in history, with Labour fronting a Left wing agenda headed by Michael Foot. The problem for Neil Kinnock was that much of the agenda was inherited from Michael Foots era, and defence was a key issue at the 1987 election, with Labour still promoting unilateral dissarmament, and with Kinnock battling the Militant Tendancy, it was all a recipe for the Tories winning again. At last ... electable Labour came in the guise of "New Labour" and Tony Blair, BINGO ... the biggest Labour majority in history and three consecutive wins. Then ... a return back to the old Left, Jeremy Corbyn, humiliating defeat, a 90 strong Tory majority, the rest is recent history. Evidence speaks for itself, time and time again the public have turned on Labour when it moves Left and supports economic madness and militancy. Keir Starmer is Neil Kinnock, is Hugh Gaitskill and James Callaghan, and he's John Smith ... He's not Michael Foot, Jeremy Corbyn or Ken Livingtone. We have a leader of the Labour Party staring at the prospect of government, sraring at a 20 point lead in the polls, something that Blair achieved, something that Mr Foot or Mr Corbyn never achieved. Corbyn was taken down by the Deep State and some of his own MPs and labour party officials and members,those bastards actually enabled Johnson and the Tories to take office,i could never vote for that sort of Labour party.,now Starmer has the brass balls to demand all the members to get behind him,yeah right! like they got behind Corbyn. |
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 16, 2023 22:03:09 GMT
The problem for Neil Kinnock was that much of the agenda was inherited from Michael Foots era, and defence was a key issue at the 1987 election, with Labour still promoting unilateral dissarmament, and with Kinnock battling the Militant Tendancy, it was all a recipe for the Tories winning again. At last ... electable Labour came in the guise of "New Labour" and Tony Blair, BINGO ... the biggest Labour majority in history and three consecutive wins. Ironic that in just over 10 years Labour went from unilateral disarmament to starting a war in the Middle East that cost over a million lives.. Talk about a big tent.. |
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