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Post by Einhorn on Feb 25, 2023 18:29:24 GMT
What? The protests are against the government's policies, aren't they? The government got more than 20% of the vote in the last general election. These people will have to demonstrate in accordance with the new laws intended to curb the right to demonstrate. If the Right resort to using bombs or anything similar, they will be involved in acts of terrorism and will be dealt with accordingly. You seem to be preparing the ground for describing acts of terrorism as a civil war. Good luck with that. But those are all the things you said not me, I said none of them are representing democracy. Because at best between them all they can only turn out just over 30% of voters. I never mentioned bombs you did, I said civil war was brewing as people were being ignored and even worse attacked for standing up for themselves and their children by a political establishment which has already failed them. Just 30% turned out in the last general election? |
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Post by sheepy on Feb 25, 2023 18:31:15 GMT
But those are all the things you said not me, I said none of them are representing democracy. Because at best between them all they can only turn out just over 30% of voters. I never mentioned bombs you did, I said civil war was brewing as people were being ignored and even worse attacked for standing up for themselves and their children by a political establishment which has already failed them. Just 30% turned out in the last general election? No but that is the best they can turn out now. Which is a clear indication they are a minority. All of them. |
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Post by Einhorn on Feb 25, 2023 18:31:44 GMT
What? The protests are against the government's policies, aren't they? The government got more than 20% of the vote in the last general election. These people will have to demonstrate in accordance with the new laws intended to curb the right to demonstrate. If the Right resort to using bombs or anything similar, they will be involved in acts of terrorism and will be dealt with accordingly. You seem to be preparing the ground for describing acts of terrorism as a civil war. Good luck with that. But those are all the things you said not me, I said none of them are representing democracy. Because at best between them all they can only turn out just over 30% of voters. I never mentioned bombs you did, I said civil war was brewing as people were being ignored and even worse attacked for standing up for themselves and their children by a political establishment which has already failed them. No, you mentioned bombs when you mentioned civil war. Civil war and bombs go hand in hand. If the Right resort to using bombs to get their way against the elected government, they will be treated as terrorists. Quite right, too. |
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Post by Einhorn on Feb 25, 2023 18:32:17 GMT
Just 30% turned out in the last general election? No but that is the best they can turn out now. Which is a clear indication they are a minority. All of them. Oh, you mean if there was a general election tomorrow, only 30% would turn out? |
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Post by sheepy on Feb 25, 2023 18:36:13 GMT
No but that is the best they can turn out now. Which is a clear indication they are a minority. All of them. Oh, you mean if there was a general election tomorrow, only 30% would turn out? Well that is about the limit of who is left falling for any of it. |
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Post by sheepy on Feb 25, 2023 18:36:59 GMT
But those are all the things you said not me, I said none of them are representing democracy. Because at best between them all they can only turn out just over 30% of voters. I never mentioned bombs you did, I said civil war was brewing as people were being ignored and even worse attacked for standing up for themselves and their children by a political establishment which has already failed them. No, you mentioned bombs when you mentioned civil war. Civil war and bombs go hand in hand. If the Right resort to using bombs to get their way against the elected government, they will be treated as terrorists. Quite right, too. Well no doubt you can show me where I mentioned bombs? |
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Post by Einhorn on Feb 25, 2023 18:37:58 GMT
Oh, you mean if there was a general election tomorrow, only 30% would turn out? Well that is about the limit of who is left falling for any of it. Well, if Ukip run for parliament and they are beaten by Labour, it will be undemocratic to fail to recognise the result even if only 30% turn out. I don't see how you can argue otherwise. |
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Post by Einhorn on Feb 25, 2023 18:38:27 GMT
No, you mentioned bombs when you mentioned civil war. Civil war and bombs go hand in hand. If the Right resort to using bombs to get their way against the elected government, they will be treated as terrorists. Quite right, too. Well no doubt you can show me where I mentioned bombs? You mentioned civil war. Don't civil wars normally include bombs? |
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Post by sheepy on Feb 25, 2023 18:39:42 GMT
Well that is about the limit of who is left falling for any of it. Well, if Ukip run for parliament and they are beaten by Labour, it will be undemocratic to fail to recognise the result even if only 30% turn out. I don't see how you can argue otherwise. Easily, nobody believes a word the Westminster says. They make things up, oh but wait! |
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Post by sheepy on Feb 25, 2023 18:40:38 GMT
Well no doubt you can show me where I mentioned bombs? You mentioned civil war. Don't civil wars normally include bombs? So you said it then, that's what I thought. |
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Post by Einhorn on Feb 25, 2023 18:41:44 GMT
Well, if Ukip run for parliament and they are beaten by Labour, it will be undemocratic to fail to recognise the result even if only 30% turn out. I don't see how you can argue otherwise. Easily, nobody believes a word the Westminster says. They make things up, oh but wait! What? if Labour are elected to power on a turn out of only 30%, it would be undemocratic to fail to recognise that result, wouldn't it? Are you saying that Ukip's policies should be given supremacy even if they win fewer seats than Labour? |
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Post by Einhorn on Feb 25, 2023 18:43:41 GMT
You mentioned civil war. Don't civil wars normally include bombs? So you said it then, that's what I thought. Yes. You said civil war was in the pipeline. Did you mean a special kind of civil war fought with itching powder and nail scissors? Or did you mean the normal kind of civil war fought with bombs and guns? |
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Post by sheepy on Feb 25, 2023 18:44:24 GMT
Easily, nobody believes a word the Westminster says. They make things up, oh but wait! What? if Labour are elected to power on a turn out of only 30%, it would be undemocratic to fail to recognise that result, wouldn't it? Are you saying that Ukip's policies should be given supremacy even if they win fewer seats than Labour? No I said, 30% of the electorate between them is a dangerous game, I would personally find it an abuse of power, which isn't allowed. |
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Post by sheepy on Feb 25, 2023 18:46:40 GMT
Well no doubt you can show me where I mentioned bombs? You mentioned civil war. Don't civil wars normally include bombs? We have already established you said it, not me. |
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Post by Einhorn on Feb 25, 2023 18:46:57 GMT
What? if Labour are elected to power on a turn out of only 30%, it would be undemocratic to fail to recognise that result, wouldn't it? Are you saying that Ukip's policies should be given supremacy even if they win fewer seats than Labour? No I said, 30% of the electorate between them is a dangerous game, I would personally find it an abuse of power, which isn't allowed. So, if only 30% of the electorate show up, you won't recognise the result? Fine. I very much doubt that only 30% will show up, and if only 30% do show up, I don't think there will be much you can do about it. As for civil war, I don't think there's much to fear from a civil war where both sides throw only water bombs and insults at each other. |
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