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Post by Orac on Feb 20, 2023 11:09:45 GMT
Darling also believes prisoners should be granted conjugal vists.
This means that a man who (say) raped, tortured and dismembered multiple women might expect, with a little effort and charm, to sire dozens of children by multiple women during his stay in prison
Perhaps it's the least we can do and it allows these people to have a legacy, even if it is going to be almost entirely at our expense.
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Post by Einhorn on Feb 20, 2023 11:10:49 GMT
I am not so much concerned about this particular case as about your general obsession with executions. It's ghoulish. And, if executions were reintroduced, that would lead to the death of innocent people. I think you and I are going to have to agree to disagree. You clearly feel it necessary to allow self confessed and wuite obviously guilty murderers such as the chap on Canynge Road and the drug peddlers on Munnings drive to live to be released to kill again. I find your obsession with keeping such people breathing and ready to kill again a serious concern threatening society. And I find your repeated references to hangings distasteful and ghoulish. Pierrepoint himself said he did not believe hanging to be a deterrent. So, the only effect is that people wrongly convicted will die. Nothing else is achieved.
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Post by Einhorn on Feb 20, 2023 11:13:01 GMT
Darling also believes prisoners should be granted conjugal vists. This means that a man who (say) raped, tortured and dismembered multiple women might expect, with a little effort and charm, to sire dozens of children by multiple women during his stay in prison Perhaps it's the least we can do and it allows these people to have a legacy, even if it is going to be almost entirely at our expense. I'm in favour of reducing rape in prisons. If there is a method of doing that without conjugal visits, I would be just as happy to see that introduced.
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Post by Handyman on Feb 20, 2023 11:14:06 GMT
Yes he did say that when he retired, however he changed his mind two years later as the Crime rate had gone up
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Post by Bentley on Feb 20, 2023 11:14:37 GMT
Looks like Darling is inventing a claim that JOG is obsessed by capital punishment to be used as an ad hom. As Darling seems to like using fallacies as a debate tool , I will post the definition of an ad hom fallacy …. “(Attacking the person): This fallacy occurs when, instead of addressing someone's argument or position, you irrelevantly attack the person or some aspect of the person who is making the argument. The fallacious attack can also be direct to membership in a group or institution. JoG has an obsession with the death penalty. That's a fact. Oh look another ad hom.
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Post by Einhorn on Feb 20, 2023 13:36:23 GMT
JoG has an obsession with the death penalty. That's a fact. Oh look another ad hom. Racism is the ultimate ad hom, Benny.
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Post by Bentley on Feb 20, 2023 13:39:02 GMT
Racism is the ultimate ad hom, Benny. And Ben Nevis is the tallest mountain in Scotland , darling.
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Post by Einhorn on Feb 20, 2023 13:41:29 GMT
Racism is the ultimate ad hom, Benny. And Ben Nevis is the tallest mountain in Scotland , darling. Two facts, then.
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Post by Bentley on Feb 20, 2023 13:43:15 GMT
And Ben Nevis is the tallest mountain in Scotland , darling. Two facts, then. Two irrelevant facts , then. Edit .”Racism is the ultimate ad hom“ is not a fact .
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Post by Einhorn on Feb 20, 2023 13:44:45 GMT
Two irrelevant facts , then. At least, you agree that racism is the ultimate ad hom.
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Post by Bentley on Feb 20, 2023 13:45:40 GMT
Two irrelevant facts , then. At least you agree that racism is the ultimate ad hom. No. See my edited post .
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Post by Einhorn on Feb 20, 2023 13:47:33 GMT
At least you agree that racism is the ultimate ad hom. No. See my edited post . You're not required to agree, Benny.
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Post by Bentley on Feb 20, 2023 13:48:52 GMT
You're not required to agree, Benny. I can’t agree to a false statement darling . As you see, I did try though.
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Post by Einhorn on Feb 20, 2023 13:49:46 GMT
You're not required to agree, Benny. I can’t agree to a false statement darling . As you see, I did try though. Mutual disdain it is, then.
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Post by Bentley on Feb 20, 2023 13:51:32 GMT
I can’t agree to a false statement darling . As you see, I did try though. Mutual disdain it is, then. I will not tolerate your misogyny, darling .
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