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Post by Einhorn on Feb 25, 2023 17:32:43 GMT
As it is ongoing who knows how much it will escalate? or how many will be involved. It is growing across Europe. Yes, it might escalate. But a civil war is pretty extreme. More likely to be 'disturbances' or 'demonstrations' than civil war. |
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Post by sheepy on Feb 25, 2023 17:41:48 GMT
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Post by Einhorn on Feb 25, 2023 17:45:33 GMT
Your article says there are links between UKIP and the Far Right. I suppose that doesn't come as much of a surprise to many. It's quite a leap to say this will lead to a civil war, though, don't you think? |
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Post by sheepy on Feb 25, 2023 17:48:58 GMT
Your article says there are links between UKIP and the Far Right. I suppose that doesn't come as much of a surprise to many. It's quite a leap to say this will lead to a civil war, though, don't you think? The establishment is coming undone at the seams, so I can see why the far left can see its opportunity. |
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Post by Einhorn on Feb 25, 2023 17:52:10 GMT
Your article says there are links between UKIP and the Far Right. I suppose that doesn't come as much of a surprise to many. It's quite a leap to say this will lead to a civil war, though, don't you think? The establishment is coming undone at the seams, so I can see why the far left can see its opportunity. You mean there will be a civil war if Labour are democratically elected and they democratically implement leftist policies? |
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Post by sheepy on Feb 25, 2023 17:55:09 GMT
The establishment is coming undone at the seams, so I can see why the far left can see its opportunity. You mean there will be a civil war if Labour are democratically elected and they democratically implement leftist policies? Do I? risky business saying you have been elected when less than 20% have voted for you. |
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Post by Einhorn on Feb 25, 2023 17:56:37 GMT
You mean there will be a civil war if Labour are democratically elected and they democratically implement leftist policies? Do I? risky business saying you have been elected when less than 20% have voted for you. If Labour are elected, and people start setting off bombs because they disagree with their policies, I should think we'll be calling that terrorism, not a civil war. |
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Post by Einhorn on Feb 25, 2023 17:59:14 GMT
Really? Are troops massing? Where? Oh nothing much, apparently the far right are demonstrating against illegal immigrants around the country in hotels, disguised as angry parents. But new laws have been introduced to curb the right to demonstrate. Won't these take care of it? I'm sure you intended that these laws should apply to everyone, not just the left. |
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Post by sheepy on Feb 25, 2023 18:11:01 GMT
Oh nothing much, apparently the far right are demonstrating against illegal immigrants around the country in hotels, disguised as angry parents. But new laws have been introduced to curb the right to demonstrate. Won't these take care of it? I'm sure you intended that these laws should apply to everyone, not just the left. I don't think they will count for much, when one is ignoring peoples real concerns. |
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Post by Einhorn on Feb 25, 2023 18:13:30 GMT
But new laws have been introduced to curb the right to demonstrate. Won't these take care of it? I'm sure you intended that these laws should apply to everyone, not just the left. I don't think they will count for much, when one is ignoring peoples real concerns. Ah! So, if they become violent against the democratically elected government, they won't be terrorists? I don't think so, Sheepy. I think they'll be treated like terrorists if they use bombs, etc. As far as their protests are concerned, we've nothing to worry about. New laws have been introduced to limit the right to protest. If the protests get out of hand, these will be utilised. If you believe that they are applicable only to 'eco warriors' or the 'woke', you're in for a rude awakening. |
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Post by sheepy on Feb 25, 2023 18:15:41 GMT
I don't think they will count for much, when one is ignoring peoples real concerns. Ah! So, if they become violent against the democratically elected government, they won't be terrorists? I don't think so, Sheepy. I think they'll be treated like terrorists if they use bombs, etc. As far as their protests are concerned, we've nothing to worry about. New laws have been introduced to limit the right to protest. If the protests get out of hand, these will be utilised. Less than 20% is not democratically elected by the way it is a lie. |
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Post by Einhorn on Feb 25, 2023 18:17:04 GMT
Ah! So, if they become violent against the democratically elected government, they won't be terrorists? I don't think so, Sheepy. I think they'll be treated like terrorists if they use bombs, etc. As far as their protests are concerned, we've nothing to worry about. New laws have been introduced to limit the right to protest. If the protests get out of hand, these will be utilised. Less than 20% is not democratically elected by the way it is a lie. Where does this 20% figure come from? You never tire of telling us that the government was voted in with a landslide majority. |
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Post by sheepy on Feb 25, 2023 18:19:28 GMT
Less than 20% is not democratically elected by the way it is a lie. Where does this 20% figure come from? You never tire of telling us that the government was voted in with a landslide majority. Of all the recent MPs voted in, they been so on less than 20% of the electorate. So in that case they are in a minority, which is in no way democratic. |
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Post by Einhorn on Feb 25, 2023 18:23:30 GMT
Where does this 20% figure come from? You never tire of telling us that the government was voted in with a landslide majority. Of all the recent MPs voted in, they been so on less than 20% of the electorate. So in that case they are in a minority, which is in no way democratic. What? The protests are against the government's policies, aren't they? The government got more than 20% of the vote in the last general election. These people will have to demonstrate in accordance with the new laws intended to curb the right to demonstrate. If the Right resort to using bombs or anything similar, they will be involved in acts of terrorism and will be dealt with accordingly. You seem to be preparing the ground for describing acts of terrorism as a civil war. Good luck with that. |
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Post by sheepy on Feb 25, 2023 18:28:19 GMT
Of all the recent MPs voted in, they been so on less than 20% of the electorate. So in that case they are in a minority, which is in no way democratic. What? The protests are against the government's policies, aren't they? The government got more than 20% of the vote in the last general election. These people will have to demonstrate in accordance with the new laws intended to curb the right to demonstrate. If the Right resort to using bombs or anything similar, they will be involved in acts of terrorism and will be dealt with accordingly. You seem to be preparing the ground for describing acts of terrorism as a civil war. Good luck with that. But those are all the things you said not me, I said none of them are representing democracy. Because at best between them all they can only turn out just over 30% of voters. I never mentioned bombs you did, I said civil war was brewing as people were being ignored and even worse attacked for standing up for themselves and their children by a political establishment which has already failed them. |
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