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Post by Steve on Feb 21, 2023 0:01:42 GMT
A reminder of the unprovoked lie loaded shite from Jonksy that started thisBuy hey ho it's the sort of wankery so many in charge of this forum think is just fine and dandy If Jonsky's posts really bother you that much Steve I recommend the block function. You tell me how I can block others reading his dishonest, inane libelling of me then. |
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Post by Steve on Feb 21, 2023 0:04:21 GMT
Not so much because the size, weight and aero footprint of these new engines are a good match for what's there already RB211 diameter ~2 metres J57 diameter ~ 1 metre And that is just one of the BIG differences, see also the link posted earlier for more detail What the fuck has that got to do with it.....Aero engines have progressed since the first B52's were created and smaller units now are far more powerfull than the large lumps they used to be..The J57 was introduced in the 50's we have progressed in leaps and bounds since then.....FFS the J157's didn't even have afterurn. Thank you for proving you should never have ever been allowed near that FAA stamp you claim to have held. And do you really know nothing about aero vortices? |
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Post by jonksy on Feb 21, 2023 0:17:59 GMT
What the fuck has that got to do with it.....Aero engines have progressed since the first B52's were created and smaller units now are far more powerfull than the large lumps they used to be..The J57 was introduced in the 50's we have progressed in leaps and bounds since then.....FFS the J157's didn't even have afterurn. Thank you for proving you should never have ever been allowed near that FAA stamp you claim to have held. And do you really know nothing about aero vortices? Oh dear has didums been rumbled...You know jack shit about AC's or aviation.......What the fuck does air vortices have to with it? Just to be kind to you...... The name is a misnomer because the cores of the vortices are slightly inboard of the wing tips. The first double pod is inboard of the 185 foot wingspan of a B52 so vortices would play no part in the equation....FFS all certification is just a certificate of airworthyness. The B-52’s 185-foot wingspan is too wide to take off or land in a crossing wind using traditional flying techniques.Boeing engineers designed special landing gear that could align with the runway allowing special takeoffs and landings. The original design of the B-52 placed a gunner in the tail of the aircraft. Later designs moved the gunner forward with the rest of the crew. After the Gulf War in the early 1990s, the gunner position and defensive machine guns were eliminated. Your be telling us next that the bloody rotisserie added to the B52 in the late sixties will change the main characteristics of the aircraft.....Give it up you are just making a total pratt of yourself... But of course when do you not? |
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Post by Steve on Feb 21, 2023 0:40:21 GMT
Thank you again for proving you have no understanding about aircraft especially weapons releasing aircraft. Vortices and other aero interactions are a major concern in weapons release even from bomb bays. And the B52 is all about taking weapons to a distant location be released. Update: this video shows just how horribly it does go wrong when people ignore aero effects with weapons release. www.military.com/video/operations-and-strategy/air-strikes/bomb-drops-gone-wrong/1836656411001 |
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Post by Montegriffo on Feb 21, 2023 4:25:29 GMT
If Jonsky's posts really bother you that much Steve I recommend the block function. You tell me how I can block others reading his dishonest, inane libelling of me then. You underestimate us if you think we can't see dishonest inane posts for what they are. |
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Post by jonksy on Feb 21, 2023 4:39:31 GMT
Thank you again for proving you have no understanding about aircraft especially weapons releasing aircraft. Vortices and other aero interactions are a major concern in weapons release even from bomb bays. And the B52 is all about taking weapons to a distant location be released. Update: this video shows just how horribly it does go wrong when people ignore aero effects with weapons release. www.military.com/video/operations-and-strategy/air-strikes/bomb-drops-gone-wrong/1836656411001 AC hardpoints do not require CV certification., that is down to the military and not any AC agency....The military do a lot of risky things but that is down to them......I see you ignored the fact that I shot your other bullshit to shit over Wingtip vortices.....LOL How droll....
EDIT: BTW the military can use COC for any changes they make if they feel they need to justify their AC mods and changes.
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Post by Steve on Feb 21, 2023 12:49:26 GMT
You tell me how I can block others reading his dishonest, inane libelling of me then. You underestimate us if you think we can't see dishonest inane posts for what they are. And you are all 100 members? Hate to cut down your ego but no you are not And frankly you are being perverse in pretending that because you don't believe the inane dishonest libelling of me here it doesn't mean others don't. In fat we've seen clear evidence some have believed it. The truth is you are either too frit of doing your job or you just like to see this dishonest, inane libelling. Please say. |
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Post by Steve on Feb 21, 2023 12:51:48 GMT
Thank you again for proving you have no understanding about aircraft especially weapons releasing aircraft. Vortices and other aero interactions are a major concern in weapons release even from bomb bays. And the B52 is all about taking weapons to a distant location be released. Update: this video shows just how horribly it does go wrong when people ignore aero effects with weapons release. www.military.com/video/operations-and-strategy/air-strikes/bomb-drops-gone-wrong/1836656411001 AC hardpoints do not require CV certification., that is down to the military and not any AC agency....The military do a lot of risky things but that is down to them......I see you ignored the fact that I shot your other bullshit to shit over Wingtip vortices.....LOL How droll....
EDIT: BTW the military can use COC for any changes they make if they feel they need to justify their AC mods and changes.
It is NOT about hardpoint certification it is about flight and weapon release certification and as the links I posted shows it was a big issue - just like I said. |
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Post by jonksy on Feb 21, 2023 12:58:37 GMT
AC hardpoints do not require CV certification., that is down to the military and not any AC agency....The military do a lot of risky things but that is down to them......I see you ignored the fact that I shot your other bullshit to shit over Wingtip vortices.....LOL How droll....
EDIT: BTW the military can use COC for any changes they make if they feel they need to justify their AC mods and changes.
It is NOT about hardpoint certification it is about flight and weapon release certification and as the links I posted shows it was a big issue - just like I said. FFS it doesnt need certification.....To any normal person they know that bombers BOMB and fighters FIGHT.......But not to you apparently.......And just to help you out yet again a hardpoint can be a bomb bay, MISSILE PODS OR gun mounting posistions.....Why you endevour to make yourself look foolish on A SUBJECT YOU KNOW JACK SHIT ABOUT IS KNOWN ONLY TO YOU.. |
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Post by Vinny on Feb 21, 2023 13:03:37 GMT
Given their certification of the post turbojet 737 series, I don't see Boeing's standards of certification being very high.
And speaking of Boeing...
All high bypass powered versions of the 737 (especially the Max) have profound pitch power issues, a drinking friend of mine is a First Officer on the 737-800.
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Post by Vinny on Feb 21, 2023 13:08:56 GMT
Oh and the reason he USAF did not do the proposed 1996 upgrade to the RB211-535, is that the upgrade would have cost $1.3bn more than keeping the original engines and that estimated savings of US $4.7 billion could not be met.
At the time, the Cold War had ended, there was an era of optimism and hopes for a better future with Yeltsin as an ally of the West.
US military spending was in decline.
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Post by Steve on Feb 21, 2023 18:18:36 GMT
So a reminder for Jonksy . . . a read on the matter: www.airandspaceforces.com/article/re-engining-the-b-52/ 'The Air Force has also considered replacing the B-52’s eight engines with four large turbofans, as is typical on commercial airliners. Engineering challenges made that approach nonviable. Potential interference with flaps and control surfaces, ground clearance issues, yaw effects, the need for extensive new flight testing and weapon separation evaluations, the need to replace large sections of the cockpit and throttles, and to redesign the rudder ruled out such a change. USAF has opted to stick with eight engines of the class that typically powers large business jets.' So after reading that does any intelligent poster back Jonksy's view that changing 8 small engines to 4 bigger ones with sum double the frontal area (and as it happens extra sum weight) would require no recertification? |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Feb 21, 2023 18:34:17 GMT
It's not willy waving, it's a sad liar from Devon telling lie after lie after lie... Didn't know you were from Devon.  |
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Post by Steve on Feb 21, 2023 18:36:11 GMT
Jeez it took you 23 hours to come back with that lame jibe.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Feb 21, 2023 19:39:19 GMT
Because I skim past most of your shite.
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