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Post by sandypine on Feb 2, 2023 16:41:10 GMT
Unconscious racism is racist assumptions so deeply ingrained that you take them for granted without even thinking about them, thus being racist without being consciously aware of it. But you oldies around here, who laughed at such comedies as Love Thy Neighbour and Mind Your Language, who laughed at Bernard Manning, and who saw the black and white minstrels as good family viewing, wouldn't even get the concept of unconscious racism because you are steeped in it. That's all true. And it was gradually sinking further beneath the surface until the Brexit campaigns appeared to legitimise anti foreigner sentiment, and Ukip provided a decent home for the Tunbridge Wells blue rinses and Col Blimps who harboured secret BNP sympathies... It did not legitimise anti foreigner sentiment but like all peoples everywhere, and there are very few exceptions, finding their own homeland subject to large scale immigration at best causes discomfort and at worst results in violence. I am not sure why the British are expected to be different from everyone else as history illustrates routinely and often. |
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Post by Orac on Feb 2, 2023 17:18:19 GMT
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Post by patman post on Feb 2, 2023 17:43:04 GMT
That's all true. And it was gradually sinking further beneath the surface until the Brexit campaigns appeared to legitimise anti foreigner sentiment, and Ukip provided a decent home for the Tunbridge Wells blue rinses and Col Blimps who harboured secret BNP sympathies... It did not legitimise anti foreigner sentiment but like all peoples everywhere, and there are very few exceptions, finding their own homeland subject to large scale immigration at best causes discomfort and at worst results in violence. I am not sure why the British are expected to be different from everyone else as history illustrates routinely and often. You mean like America, Australia, Canada, New Zealand in the anglophone sphere, or Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, etc…? |
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Post by Bentley on Feb 2, 2023 17:47:44 GMT
It did not legitimise anti foreigner sentiment but like all peoples everywhere, and there are very few exceptions, finding their own homeland subject to large scale immigration at best causes discomfort and at worst results in violence. I am not sure why the British are expected to be different from everyone else as history illustrates routinely and often. You mean like America, Australia, Canada, New Zealand in the anglophone sphere, or Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, etc…? Did any of those countries adopt a diversity programme that favoured the immigrants ? |
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Post by sandypine on Feb 2, 2023 17:49:42 GMT
It did not legitimise anti foreigner sentiment but like all peoples everywhere, and there are very few exceptions, finding their own homeland subject to large scale immigration at best causes discomfort and at worst results in violence. I am not sure why the British are expected to be different from everyone else as history illustrates routinely and often. You mean like America, Australia, Canada, New Zealand in the anglophone sphere, or Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, etc…? Exactly like that. No one likes large numbers of foreigners either invading or arriving largely uninvited. In India it was British go home as it was in many countries. Whys should the British who did not go anywhere be any different? |
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Post by patman post on Feb 2, 2023 17:58:56 GMT
You mean like America, Australia, Canada, New Zealand in the anglophone sphere, or Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, etc…? Did any of those countries adopt a diversity programme that favoured the immigrants ? Probably most of them (but without the diversity bit, invaders were always favoured). The exceptions were the Eastern European states. They had to suffer many decades of subjugation and settlement by the invaders — a bit like Hong Kong during its 99 years of leased ownership by the British. India actually, semi successfully, bred its own managerial class to take over when the British left… |
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Post by jonksy on Feb 2, 2023 18:00:02 GMT
It did not legitimise anti foreigner sentiment but like all peoples everywhere, and there are very few exceptions, finding their own homeland subject to large scale immigration at best causes discomfort and at worst results in violence. I am not sure why the British are expected to be different from everyone else as history illustrates routinely and often. You mean like America, Australia, Canada, New Zealand in the anglophone sphere, or Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, etc…? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2023 18:00:24 GMT
Unconscious racism is racist assumptions so deeply ingrained that you take them for granted without even thinking about them, thus being racist without being consciously aware of it. But you oldies around here, who laughed at such comedies as Love Thy Neighbour and Mind Your Language, who laughed at Bernard Manning, and who saw the black and white minstrels as good family viewing, wouldn't even get the concept of unconscious racism because you are steeped in it. Don't be a prat, Shrieky. I'll leave that to the usual suspects, you included. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2023 18:05:03 GMT
That's all true. And it was gradually sinking further beneath the surface until the Brexit campaigns appeared to legitimise anti foreigner sentiment, and Ukip provided a decent home for the Tunbridge Wells blue rinses and Col Blimps who harboured secret BNP sympathies...
Ah bless, nasty 'ol Brexit eh?  Well you have a well known racist as an avatar (cue predictable comments about my Hitler-looking cat avatar, lol) |
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Post by Bentley on Feb 2, 2023 18:12:42 GMT
Did any of those countries adopt a diversity programme that favoured the immigrants ? Probably most of them (but without the diversity bit, invaders were always favoured). The exceptions were the Eastern European states. They had to suffer many decades of subjugation and settlement by the invaders — a bit like Hong Kong during its 99 years of leased ownership by the British. India actually, semi successfully, bred its own managerial class to take over when the British left… “Probably “ meaning none then ? 🙄 |
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 2, 2023 18:14:56 GMT
Did any of those countries adopt a diversity programme that favoured the immigrants ? Probably most of them (but without the diversity bit, invaders were always favoured). The exceptions were the Eastern European states. They had to suffer many decades of subjugation and settlement by the invaders — a bit like Hong Kong during its 99 years of leased ownership by the British. India actually, semi successfully, bred its own managerial class to take over when the British left… Not sure that HK was that subjugated as when it came to the hand back to China they didnt want to go..  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2023 18:18:41 GMT
Unconscious racism is racist assumptions so deeply ingrained that you take them for granted without even thinking about them, thus being racist without being consciously aware of it. But you oldies around here, who laughed at such comedies as Love Thy Neighbour and Mind Your Language, who laughed at Bernard Manning, and who saw the black and white minstrels as good family viewing, wouldn't even get the concept of unconscious racism because you are steeped in it. Unconscious racism is just another phrase to use so that a whole swathe of people can be swept aside from having opinions and excluded from consideration of their views. Strangely this whole swathe is comprised almost entirely of white people. You mean calling out racist views for what they are is an attempt to silence you? I see no signs of the closet racists around here being silenced. How many times in the past have we heard people say "I'm not racist but....." followed by a whole load of racist drivel? You see, racists like to deny the fact of their racism even to themselves, and resent being called out for it, perceiving this as an attempt to silence them. It is not. If it were it is a dismal failure because the racist gobs out there never do shut up, they just take offence at being seen for what they are especially if in denial themselves. Calling racists out on their racism is basically just an exercise in calling a spade a spade. |
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Post by sandypine on Feb 2, 2023 18:21:38 GMT
Did any of those countries adopt a diversity programme that favoured the immigrants ? Probably most of them (but without the diversity bit, invaders were always favoured). The exceptions were the Eastern European states. They had to suffer many decades of subjugation and settlement by the invaders — a bit like Hong Kong during its 99 years of leased ownership by the British. India actually, semi successfully, bred its own managerial class to take over when the British left… The British were so evil that people flooded in to the area to participate in the subjugation and settled themselves. As regards India the British were told to leave and though the British were there for some three hundred years with up to ten generations born there they were still, both to Indians and the British, the British in India and never Indians. |
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Post by sandypine on Feb 2, 2023 18:26:35 GMT
Unconscious racism is just another phrase to use so that a whole swathe of people can be swept aside from having opinions and excluded from consideration of their views. Strangely this whole swathe is comprised almost entirely of white people. You mean calling out racist views for what they are is an attempt to silence you? I see no signs of the closet racists around here being silenced. How many times in the past have we heard people say "I'm not racist but....." followed by a whole load of racist drivel? You see, racists like to deny the fact of their racism even to themselves, and resent being called out for it, perceiving this as an attempt to silence them. It is not. If it were it is a dismal failure because the racist gobs out there never do shut up, they just take offence at being seen for what they are especially if in denial themselves. Calling racists out on their racism is basically just an exercise in calling a spade a spade. The problem as always is that racist views are as defined by those calling them out. Again we have 'closet racists' which means there is no evidence they are racist other than a subjective opinion. Redefining racism is just another trick in the largely still packed knapsack of privilege now granted to everyone except those defined as racist which is broadly all white people. This is beyond a joke. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Feb 2, 2023 18:32:58 GMT
Ah bless, nasty 'ol Brexit eh? Well you have a well known racist as an avatar (cue predictable comments about my Hitler-looking cat avatar, lol)
Don't be a prat, Shreiky.
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