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Post by see2 on Feb 3, 2023 18:11:25 GMT
So called "Beergate" is a closed file The first police investigation "after reviewing the Durham video, "We do not believe an offence has been established in relation to the legislation and guidance in place at that time and will therefore take no further action in relation to this matter" The second police investigation "A substantial amount of documentary and witness evidence was obtained which identified the 17 participants and their activities during that gathering. Following the application of the evidential full code test, it has been concluded that there is no case to answer for a contravention of the regulations, due to the application of an exception, namely reasonably necessary work." Both of these police findings / conclusions into "Beergate" were very different to the conclusions of the "Partygate" investigations. But still some people cannot accept the conclusions of official police investigations I take it you never criticised the decision of the constabulary when Cummings went for a drive to test his eyesight? No answer? then just deviate. |
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 3, 2023 18:19:49 GMT
I take it you never criticised the decision of the constabulary when Cummings went for a drive to test his eyesight? No answer? then just deviate. Dont be daft - i was responding to post suggesting that we should not criticise police decisions. |
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Post by see2 on Feb 4, 2023 8:28:00 GMT
No answer? then just deviate. Dont be daft - i was responding to post suggesting that we should not criticise police decisions. Maybe, but it looked as though you were avoiding the information in the post you were replying to. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 4, 2023 9:37:46 GMT
...I see, so you and thirty mates who were all in the same room scoffed a £200 take out washed down with lashings of San Miguel. Fair enough. According to the Durham Constabulary and Durham Police and Crime Commissioner, who attended Starmers beer & curry bash, such a gathering was perfectly acceptable and within the rules. However, had cake been on the table, well that's another matter entirely. Beer & curry, yes. Cake, absolutely not. A meal break while working away from home or the office seems (and was judged to be) reasonable.
The Police statement:
Following the emergence of significant new information, an investigation was launched by Durham Constabulary into a gathering at the Miners’ Hall, in Redhills, Durham on 30th April 2021. That investigation has now concluded.
A substantial amount of documentary and witness evidence was obtained which identified the 17 participants and their activities during that gathering. Following the application of the evidential Full Code Test, it has been concluded that there is no case to answer for a contravention of the regulations, due to the application of an exception, namely reasonably necessary work.
LOL indeed, a £200 take out curry and lashings of San Miguel, a meal break while at work. Oh my aching sides. Starmer and Raynor lied. Initially Starmer said there were 15 people in attendance, he later changed it to 17. However, other sources say 25 to 30 people attended the beer & curry bash, which would be about right for a £200 take out. Also, initially Raynor denied she was there, months later she admitted she did attend the beer & curry night. Starmer said during the beer & curry bash, when he was 'working' right kids  he recorded a peice to camera for social media purposes. It later transpired this peice to camera was recorded during daylight hours, not at night time when he was on the piss with 25 to 30 colleauges, including Raynor. In spite of mounting evidence Durham police refused to investigate, probably because Durham's Police & Crime Commissioner attended the piss up. The only reason an investigation did eventually take place is because Sir Peter Fahy, former chief constable of Greater Manchester Police, said "due to mounting evidence I think Durham Constabulary should reconsider a probe". But with Durham's Police & Crime Commissioner in the firing line, the findings of any investigation were never in doubt. Starmer & Raynor both lied and they both got away with it, and they know it. Starmer, at work lol...  |
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Post by Morgan on Feb 4, 2023 9:55:07 GMT
I thought you were blaming all the lefties. Have you changed your mind?
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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 4, 2023 10:14:01 GMT
I thought you were blaming all the lefties. Have you changed your mind? ? I'm not sure I follow... |
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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 4, 2023 10:19:02 GMT
It all boils down to the usual, it's not what you know, it's who you know.
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Post by zanygame on Feb 4, 2023 10:22:21 GMT
It all boils down to the usual, it's not what you know, it's who you know. And apparently Boris doesn't know anyone. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 4, 2023 10:26:31 GMT
It all boils down to the usual, it's not what you know, it's who you know. And apparently Boris doesn't know anyone. Well it's clear he hasn't got the connections Starmer has, otherwise he would still be in his job. |
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Post by Orac on Feb 4, 2023 10:45:14 GMT
They weren't after Stammer - Starmer was/is co-operating fully
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2023 11:12:37 GMT
I have not got a degree in Law or Politics or indeed anything
But even I knew right from the very start that Starmer was not guilty of breaking any rules, and I was totally 100% confident that he would be cleared of the allegations ... ANYONE with an ounce of common sense knew he had not broken any rules.
You were allowed to work in a workplace
You were allowed breaks including meal breaks in a workplace
An office and meeting room is a workplace
The sole reason / prime reason why Labour Party officials were there, was because it was a scheduled set of working meetings.
Boris Johnson was invited to a "Get Together" a "Party" a "Drinks & Nibbles Social Gathering"
If you dont know the difference, or cannot see a difference ... then your very DENSE
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Post by zanygame on Feb 4, 2023 11:14:08 GMT
And apparently Boris doesn't know anyone. Well it's clear he hasn't got the connections Starmer has, otherwise he would still be in his job. Seriously the PM has no connections. The police were not even going to investigate partygate until they were forced to by public outcry. |
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Post by zanygame on Feb 4, 2023 11:15:40 GMT
I have not got a degree in Law or Politics or indeed anything But even I knew right from the very start that Starmer was not guilty of breaking any rules, and I was totally 100% confident that he would be cleared of the allegations ... ANYONE with an ounce of common sense knew he had not broken any rules. You were allowed to work in a workplace You were allowed breaks including meal breaks in a workplace An office and meeting room is a workplace The sole reason / prime reason why Labour Party officials were there, was because it was a scheduled set of working meetings. Boris Johnson was invited to a "Get Together" a "Party" a "Drinks & Nibbles Social Gathering" If you dont know the difference, or cannot see a difference ... then your very DENSE Not to mention that they were several events and blatant breaking of the rules. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 4, 2023 11:17:04 GMT
Well it's clear he hasn't got the connections Starmer has, otherwise he would still be in his job. Seriously the PM has no connections. The police were not even going to investigate partygate until they were forced to by public outcry. Starmer was the head DPP, if you can't make the right connections in that job than you never can, it's one of the most senior posts you can hold.
Just because Johnson was Prime Minister doesn't give him access to those connections ^^
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2023 11:27:39 GMT
For the record ... the findings of Durham Police were the findings of "Durham Police", and the file never went to the CPS, and no one working for the DPP had any say in the matter.
Just so you know
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he recorded a peice to camera for social media purposes. It later transpired this peice to camera was recorded during daylight hours, not at night time when he was on the piss with 25 to 30 colleauges, including Raynor. In spite of mounting evidence Durham police refused to investigate, probably because Durham's Police & Crime Commissioner attended the piss up. 
