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Post by oracle75 on Jan 28, 2023 17:22:09 GMT
Pancdemic.....Slowed production and hasn't been caught up with FFS,,,,TRead the fucking link I supplied. The pandemic was in 2020/21. NOT 2016. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2023 17:26:11 GMT
I reckon that the anti-Europeans dont understand basics
If an EU regulation states that Lamb has to be labeled a certain way, and has to include certain information, and has to be stored at a particular temperature for a specific maximum length of time, then the UK Lamb industry must comply with the regulations, otherwise ... No British Lamb to Europe.
Brexiteers falsely believe that we will have our own rules, and that the EU will follow them.
The EU and the wider EEA is 30 countries, and we are only 1 country, they are not going to follow our rules.
Having continent-wide regulations which provide a level playing field makes so much sense. Leaving such a level playing field makes absolutely no sense what so ever, in fact its bonkers, and it not only makes doing business harder, but will hinder our economy.
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Post by Red Rackham on Jan 28, 2023 17:27:27 GMT
The EU state of France could easily stop the illegal invasion, but as we all know, the UK must be punished for Brexit. Are you aware that France refuses to allow migrants boats that cross the Mediterranean to land on French soil. They are litterally turned away, which is why most of them end up in Italy. But at the other end of the country France looks the other way as tens of thousands of illegals pay people smugglers and in front of French police drag dinghies down French beaches en route to Kent. Double standards? I have every confidence you will make excuses for the incompetent duplicitous French and EU authorities. Why don't you stop blaming everyone else and ask the French how they do it? We now have extra British presence on the French side of the Channel. Maybe they will ask. If channel migration decreases then you can say France didn't do enough. If it stays the same you will have to ask why the British over there let's the migrants cross. Won't you? Indeed, mad isn't it. The British government have paid the French government c£120 million in two payments. It's almost laughable, I mean we are paying the French to police their own border, lol. And what a raging success it's been, only 50,000 illegals managed to evade French border guards, as they dragged dinghies across two miles of beach in broad daylight, often in front of TV cameras. Tell me Oracle, why do you think we, the British, should patrol another countries borders? The French patrol their south coast, migrant boats are not allowed to land on French soil. Why shouldn't we adopt the same rule? |
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Post by oracle75 on Jan 28, 2023 17:28:25 GMT
One...the 7K and France had an agreement to allow the UK to send cross channel migrants back to France. It was under ÷EU law. Leavers voted to trash it. And do stop conveniently lying. The mantra of the EU needing the UK more than the UK needs the EU and the EU would collapse in xxx years and the UK would lead the way to its breakup whoopee 2ascall over the idiot Murdoch tabloid press. Quoted and inflated for years. Another lie. I’ll have to look that one up. I must admit that I’ve never heard of an agreement with France that allows the UK to send back all the illegal cross channel migrants . The mantra that you insist was reality only exists in the lies that you and other ex remainers peddle . None if this was part of the main leave narrative . The mantra about the EU needing the UK more than the UK needed the EU was everywhere. You don't seem to be aware of a lot of the discussions around the referendum. |
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Post by oracle75 on Jan 28, 2023 17:33:04 GMT
1, Any noticeable reduction in crime? 2, That's the biggest joke, no one wants to trade with us on better terms than the EU and exports have fallen. 2a, 13% of UK businesses have stopped exporting to the EU because of red tape. 3, Barely. 4, Unrelated. 5, Then why are they higher in the UK than the EU? Did they not have Covid and the Ukraine war over there. In any case our hardships start long before Covid. Please stop gas lighting and admit its failed. And lets not forget, the independent and sovereign UK is the fifth largest economy in the world. It slipped into 6th place a couple of years ago. And frankly it feels like we are living in some far poorer country. One which can't support a health system is in serious trouble. |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 28, 2023 17:33:52 GMT
Pancdemic.....Slowed production and hasn't been caught up with FFS,,,,TRead the fucking link I supplied. The pandemic was in 2020/21. NOT 2016. What about the fuck off great earthquake in Japan at the end of 2015? FFS its like arguing with a bloody bunch of inbred two year olds to get through to you and your ilk.. |
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Post by Bentley on Jan 28, 2023 17:33:55 GMT
I’ll have to look that one up. I must admit that I’ve never heard of an agreement with France that allows the UK to send back all the illegal cross channel migrants . The mantra that you insist was reality only exists in the lies that you and other ex remainers peddle . None if this was part of the main leave narrative . The mantra about the EU needing the UK more than the UK needed the EU was everywhere. You don't seem to be aware of a lot of the discussions around the referendum. Are you claiming that all illegal migrants that entered the UK from France could be returned by the UK while we were in the EU? I am aware that some narratives during the lead up to the referendum from both campaigns were obviously incorrect. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jan 28, 2023 17:36:31 GMT
I reckon that the anti-Europeans dont understand basics If an EU regulation states that Lamb has to be labeled a certain way, and has to include certain information, and has to be stored at a particular temperature for a specific maximum length of time, then the UK Lamb industry must comply with the regulations, otherwise ... No British Lamb to Europe. Brexiteers falsely believe that we will have our own rules, and that the EU will follow them. The EU and the wider EEA is 30 countries, and we are only 1 country, they are not going to follow our rules. Having continent-wide regulations which provide a level playing field makes so much sense. Leaving such a level playing field makes absolutely no sense what so ever, in fact its bonkers, and it not only makes doing business harder, but will hinder our economy. I'm not anti- European. I love Europe, or did. I spent the best years of my life in Germany, my kids were born there, my son now lives in France and my sis-in-law lives in Spain, Europe's great. But like most €urophiles you confuse Europe with the EU. One is a landmass that's been there for a billion years, the other is an unelected and largely unpopular political experiment that was imposed five minutes ago. |
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Post by zanygame on Jan 28, 2023 17:36:33 GMT
Because the poster clearly stated car production fell in the UK in 2016. So blaming a pandemic 3 years later is dim even by your standards. Oh dear, ZG that's not very festive. Apologies. But I had already put the numbers is big to draw your attention to them. Anyway, I think we can agree that the UK drop in car sales in 2016 was not caused by Covid. |
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Post by oracle75 on Jan 28, 2023 17:36:36 GMT
Why don't you stop blaming everyone else and ask the French how they do it? We now have extra British presence on the French side of the Channel. Maybe they will ask. If channel migration decreases then you can say France didn't do enough. If it stays the same you will have to ask why the British over there let's the migrants cross. Won't you? Indeed, mad isn't it. The British government have paid the French government c£120 million in two payments. It's almost laughable, I mean we are paying the French to police their own border, lol. And what a raging success it's been, only 50,000 illegals managed to evade French border guards, as they dragged dinghies across two miles of beach in broad daylight, often in front of TV cameras. Tell me Oracle, why do you think we, the British, should patrol another countries borders? The French patrol their south coast, migrant boats are not allowed to land on French soil. Why shouldn't we adopt the same rule? we can adopt the same rule. We are now sovereign. Except that it seems the UK cannot control their own borders. So sovereignty has actually harmed the immigration problem, since we told the French we didn't need the agreement. Another example of where sovereignty hasn't added anything to our benefit. I am still waiting for that list of how sovereignty has made the UK a better place. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 28, 2023 17:38:04 GMT
Well in the real world we ended up with more asylum seekers being sent to the UK under the Dublin Agreement - no wonder the EU was so keen on it. Personally I was never that keen on being the EU's dumping ground. More asylum seekers were sent to the UK than are currently arriving? Really? Isn't it the case that asylum seekers were crossing the EU and then entering the UK and some of those were sent back under the Dublin Regulations; whereas, none are currently being sent back. LOL - how difficult is this?. When we were in the EU and subject to the Dublin Agreement the other EU countries sent us more asylum seekers than we returned to them - so as an exercise in reducing asylum numbers it failed at the first hurdle. The EU were quite happy to dump asylum seekers on the UK. |
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Post by oracle75 on Jan 28, 2023 17:38:10 GMT
The pandemic was in 2020/21. NOT 2016. What about the fuck off great earthquake in Japan at the end of 2015? FFS its like arguing with a bloody bunch of inbred two year olds to get through to you and your ilk.. The chips come largely from China and South Korea. Stop desperately looking for something else to blame. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jan 28, 2023 17:39:15 GMT
And lets not forget, the independent and sovereign UK is the fifth largest economy in the world. It slipped into 6th place a couple of years ago. And frankly it feels like we are living in some far poorer country. One which can't support a health system is in serious trouble. The Top 25 Economies in the World. 5. The [Sovereign and independent] United Kingdom: www.investopedia.com/insights/worlds-top-economies/ |
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 28, 2023 17:41:35 GMT
Any explanations ? Car manufacturing rose in 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015 But then fell in 2016, and then fell steep 2017 to 2020, and continues to fall Is this one of the "many advantages" of Brexit ? car manufacturing in Germany has also fallen since 2016 - is that due to Brexit as well? I never realised we were so powerful..   |
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Post by zanygame on Jan 28, 2023 17:42:38 GMT
Because the poster clearly stated car production fell in the UK in 2016. So blaming a pandemic 3 years later is dim even by your standards. FFS this shortage has been gong on for years...Just a little hint there was a fuck off big earthquake in Japan which set chip production back for years and then the pandemic came along as for now of course car production is lower. It's called supply and demand its only those twats who beleive in all this ECO bollocks that wants a car with a bloody sewing machine as an engine. Piss off. semiconductors is delaying production lines. Ford, General Motors and Fiat Chrysler (now merged with PSA under the name Stellantis) are among the firms that have temporarily shut factories this year. The scarcity of silicon components has caused a slowdown that will delay production of almost 1m vehicles in the first quarter of 2021. |
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