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Post by besoeker3 on Mar 6, 2023 13:08:28 GMT
No corrections on my part, chum. If this idiot thinks he could put the kind of amperage required through a standard househiold exstension cable whith that current it would glow brighter than his total lack of knowlege on the subjet. And if he never fully unwound the extstension lead it would act as a choke and he would just reduce it to one solid molten mass. I have a notion that he doesn't know about my profession. |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 6, 2023 13:14:01 GMT
If this idiot thinks he could put the kind of amperage required through a standard househiold exstension cable whith that current it would glow brighter than his total lack of knowlege on the subjet. And if he never fully unwound the extstension lead it would act as a choke and he would just reduce it to one solid molten mass. I have a notion that he doesn't know about my profession. LOL maybe we should remind him it's national plumbers day shortly...He may feel more at home there. |
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Post by patman post on Mar 6, 2023 15:42:57 GMT
I did answer this, I always try and answer if I can. I said Q:How are you going to connect the electricity from your terraced house A: Either with a boom over the pavement or a cable cover on the pavement Q: How much energy will that require? A: how much energy will what require? Do you mean to install a boom or do you mean to charge the car? I have never ignored it. See how its done Jonsky? No dodging or claiming this or that, just pleasant answers. I think that the boom idea is illegal. Apart from anything else your EV needs power cables, not telephone wires. Same with cable covers. These would need to be armoured so fairly bulky. And very costly. And who will install them and reel them when not in use. out when they are required. And there there is the energy your terraced house uses about 8 kWh per day. Your EV would likely double that. I don't think you have thought this thing out. Is a simple cable gully the answer?
I saw this on TV/YouTube a while ago installed in somewhere like Camden. They shouldn't present a problem as they appear no different to the rainwater gullies already inserted across pavements...
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Post by besoeker3 on Mar 6, 2023 16:22:14 GMT
Is a simple cable gully the answer?
I saw this on TV/YouTube a while ago installed in somewhere like Camden. They shouldn't present a problem as they appear no different to the rainwater gullies already inserted across pavements...
What if there is no gully? There isn't one where I live. |
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Post by Toreador on Mar 6, 2023 17:05:24 GMT
Is a simple cable gully the answer?
I saw this on TV/YouTube a while ago installed in somewhere like Camden. They shouldn't present a problem as they appear no different to the rainwater gullies already inserted across pavements...
What if there is no gully? There isn't one where I live. They'll have to install them at a cost to the consumer. |
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Post by besoeker3 on Mar 6, 2023 17:25:19 GMT
What if there is no gully? There isn't one where I live. They'll have to install them at a cost to the consumer. And then only if the council permits them. |
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Post by Toreador on Mar 6, 2023 17:29:10 GMT
They'll have to install them at a cost to the consumer. And then only if the council permits them. ....and if they're free from vandalism. |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 6, 2023 17:48:02 GMT
All of my posts use the same terminology An average home uses 8 to 10 kwh per day. An average home has available 23kwh . So there is no shortage of power to charge a car. Adding h on the end of kw does not change the power available. A 23kw supply can supply 23kw for a second or for an hour or for a week. It doesn't run out like a petrol tank. If a house uses an average of 8kwh per day, that is far less than is available and therefore not an argument for asking where will a terrace houe get the power to charge a car. I have tried to explain this in every possible way to no avail. If I put 8 2kw heaters on in my house for 24 hours NOTHING happens (apart from my electric bill sky rocketing) The electric doesn't run out, the main fuse doesn't blow (Yes I know I'd have to have the right MCB's RCBO's or whatever, sigh) NOTHING HAPPENS. THERE IS PLENTY OF POWER TO RUN MY HOME AND CHARGE MY CAR. Especially if I charge it at night when I'm not using much other power. Its a stupid distraction and a lie to keep implying I have somehow got it wrong, a lie you are making yourself part of. And if the mods do that you have nothing left. I supported you being a mod because although we disagree on most things I felt your conversation was at least intelligent, but if backing up those you agree with means you will stoop to this level I was wrong. You are missing the point - again. The UK has an energy deficit. I didn't miss that point, I created a whole new thread on it. But that was not your question. You did not ask how the country would charge all the cars, you asked how a terrace house would charge their car and gave their average usage as a reason for the question. A kw is a measure of energy, a kwh is a measure of energy usage. How much energy someone uses has no effect on how much is available. Frankly I know you know better so I'm doubly disgusted that you so wanted to be in with the crowd that you would say such things. |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 6, 2023 18:05:51 GMT
Seriously, Amps = Watts/volts 1,000 watts/ 230 volts = 4.3amps. Babies are born knowing this stuff. You're just a troll. I've reported your last post, you are destroying the threads. Anyone with the common sense of gnat knows that you cannor charge an EV using a household extension cable. To reach a maximum charge on an EV you require at least 50 amps or better. I suppose you have never had to wrestle with the anaconda that resisdes behind your cooker and that is only rated at 15 Amps. The barest minimum of cable required to carry 50 Amps would have to be 16.5 mm ± 0.3 mm.....Even some of the charging stations in the few we have do not push that kind of power, hence they will not fully charge an EV....You claim that I am a troll but it is you that is destroying thereads Ignorance can be excused but belligerent self induced insanity cannot not.....Carry on if you want to make a total idiot of yourself in front of the forum why should I care. Just as well no one said you could then, you stated and I quote you "Screwfix DO NOT sell covers large enough for a 1 KW cable and neither do anyone else." 1kw is tiny the smallest lighting cable is 1.5kw. An ordinary 4bar extension lead is 3kw and that's this big o. Most home car chargers are 7kw, that's 30amp that's about 12mm in diameter and could very easily fit through a standard cable protector Mr Troll.
So the idea that a 1kw cable would not fit through is as ridiculous as you are. |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 6, 2023 18:11:03 GMT
If this idiot thinks he could put the kind of amperage required through a standard househiold exstension cable whith that current it would glow brighter than his total lack of knowlege on the subjet. And if he never fully unwound the extstension lead it would act as a choke and he would just reduce it to one solid molten mass. I have a notion that he doesn't know about my profession. This idiot knows exactly what you told him you do. Which is why this idiot finds your posts shameful. Do you think the idiot above is correct when he says you couldn't fit a 1kw cable through this. vv  Be interesting to see if you're shameful enough not to answer. |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 6, 2023 18:13:46 GMT
I think that the boom idea is illegal. Apart from anything else your EV needs power cables, not telephone wires. Same with cable covers. These would need to be armoured so fairly bulky. And very costly. And who will install them and reel them when not in use. out when they are required. And there there is the energy your terraced house uses about 8 kWh per day. Your EV would likely double that. I don't think you have thought this thing out. Is a simple cable gully the answer?
I saw this on TV/YouTube a while ago installed in somewhere like Camden. They shouldn't present a problem as they appear no different to the rainwater gullies already inserted across pavements...
Good find patman, I hadn't considered a simple gulley, one could easily do two homes. |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 6, 2023 18:14:16 GMT
Is a simple cable gully the answer?
I saw this on TV/YouTube a while ago installed in somewhere like Camden. They shouldn't present a problem as they appear no different to the rainwater gullies already inserted across pavements...
What if there is no gully? There isn't one where I live. You put one in. |
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Post by patman post on Mar 6, 2023 18:20:59 GMT
Is a simple cable gully the answer?
I saw this on TV/YouTube a while ago installed in somewhere like Camden. They shouldn't present a problem as they appear no different to the rainwater gullies already inserted across pavements...
What if there is no gully? There isn't one where I live. My point was that it’s an existing technology, for which the trunking is already in production, that could easily be employed by channelling through asphalt or cutting pavers — Hackney is already doing this for surface water drainage across pavements in its newly remodelled Church Street N16. It would probably cost less than he trees, lampposts and “parklet’s” it’s currently installing and shifting around the place. Oxford is among places experimenting with this across pavement cable linking system for EVs. I’m going to try and get Hackney to at least study the proposal. But the council’s stated intention is to rid the borough of as many private vehicles as possible. This is obvious by the plethora of anti-vehicle measures and poorly designed cycle lanes being installed around the place… |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 6, 2023 18:23:24 GMT
What if there is no gully? There isn't one where I live. My point was that it’s an existing technology, for which the trunking is already in production, that could easily be employed by channelling through asphalt or cutting pavers — Hackney is already doing this for surface water drainage across pavements in its newly remodelled Church Street N16. It would probably cost less than he trees, lampposts and “parklet’s” it’s currently installing and shifting around the place. Oxford is among places experimenting with this across pavement cable linking system for EVs. I’m going to try and get Hackney to at least study the proposal. But the council’s stated intention is to rid the borough of as many private vehicles as possible. This is obvious by the plethora of anti-vehicle measures and poorly designed cycle lanes being installed around the place… I think this is the problem, it will be down to councils to allow these gullies and many councils are very anti car (And not just the polluting ones) |
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Post by besoeker3 on Mar 6, 2023 18:44:51 GMT
You are missing the point - again. The UK has an energy deficit. I didn't miss that point, I created a whole new thread on it. But that was not your question. You did not ask how the country would charge all the cars, you asked how a terrace house would charge their car and gave their average usage as a reason for the question. A kw is a measure of energy, a kwh is a measure of energy usage. How much energy someone uses has no effect on how much is available. Frankly I know you know better so I'm doubly disgusted that you so wanted to be in with the crowd that you would say such things. I'm afraid you are still wrong about the units. Perhaps I should tell you that my profession is electrical engineering. Specifically in the field of power electronics. |
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