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Post by jonksy on Mar 3, 2023 9:51:03 GMT
Funny how the eco zealots who were stupid enough to beleive the lies never ever metion this is it not?
University awarded £582,000 grant to study 'second-life' options for electric car batteries and prevent 9MILLION TONS going into landfill each year Grant is part of a £4.5m project to establish battery recycling and reuse options Majority of decommissioned EV batteries are sent to landfill or incinerated
Yes. To PREVENT, as in stop. So what's your point? Do you really think 'Eco zealots' think batteries will never end? Talking about stupid, do you ever think before you post? yes do you? maybe you can explain how 9 million tons of batteries each year are discarded in landfills is a step closer to the bullshit net zero? |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 3, 2023 9:53:24 GMT
I can see their point, it is all a bit rushed. But then we have sat on our hands for the last 30 years and waited until it was urgent. A no win I'm thinking. I think as usual the EU will compromise. As an aside. I am currently out in the Canaries and the skies have clouded over every afternoon (Been coming here twice a year for 14 years now and not seen it like this before. So I looked up changing weather Canaries and found the tourist industry are very worried because climate change has pushed weather systems further down the Atlantic and these are changing the prevailing wind direction and bringing in clouds to the Islands. For a country entirely who's economy is based around winter sun its a devastating blow. Point is there are down sides and costs in doing nothing, just as there are in doing something. The point is that throwing money at an impossible task is fruitless. |
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Post by patman post on Mar 3, 2023 11:35:23 GMT
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Post by jonksy on Mar 3, 2023 12:51:05 GMT
Nothing mythical about it. This is where they end up...As do millions of tons of worn blades from wind turbines....It is not economicaly viable to try and recycle the crap. |
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Post by patman post on Mar 3, 2023 13:00:51 GMT
Information from Sweden's Vattenfall...
The 28-turbine Irene Vorrink site will be the largest wind farm to date from which blades will be fully recycled or reused. As the blades are taken down, they will be cut into smaller pieces suitable to be transported to the recycling facility.
Norwegian recycling company Gjenkraft AS will use some of the blades to produce recycled fibers, synthetic oils and gas, which could then go on to become skis, snowboards and insulation materials.
Vattenfall has set ambitious targets to recycle at least 50% of all decommissioned turbine blades by 2025, rising to 100% by 2030. Sending blades to landfill has already been banned by the developer, which operates 10 onshore and offshore wind farms in the UK. group.vattenfall.com/uk/newsroom/pressreleases/2022/turning-wind-turbines.....-into-skis-insulation-and-solar-farms |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 3, 2023 14:50:28 GMT
Information from Sweden's Vattenfall...
The 28-turbine Irene Vorrink site will be the largest wind farm to date from which blades will be fully recycled or reused. As the blades are taken down, they will be cut into smaller pieces suitable to be transported to the recycling facility.
Norwegian recycling company Gjenkraft AS will use some of the blades to produce recycled fibers, synthetic oils and gas, which could then go on to become skis, snowboards and insulation materials.
Vattenfall has set ambitious targets to recycle at least 50% of all decommissioned turbine blades by 2025, rising to 100% by 2030. Sending blades to landfill has already been banned by the developer, which operates 10 onshore and offshore wind farms in the UK. group.vattenfall.com/uk/newsroom/pressreleases/2022/turning-wind-turbines.....-into-skis-insulation-and-solar-farmsAnd was determined as un-economical How many skis would that lot make a year? More than what are sold every year. and as for solar panels they have found that fibreglass absorbs over 39% of solar energy so yet another no-go. |
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Post by patman post on Mar 3, 2023 16:13:31 GMT
Not sure you’re reading and understanding what you read — the blades would go on to “produce recycled fibers, synthetic oils and gas, which could then go on to become skis, snowboards and insulation materials.”
Snowboards is just one product line of one company.
In the past year I’ve lagged the roof space of three properties with repurposed plastics. I guess by the time they’re replaced, all plastic and synthetic materials will be collected and re-used again…
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Post by jonksy on Mar 3, 2023 16:19:23 GMT
Not sure you’re reading and understanding what you read — the blades would go on to “produce recycled fibers, synthetic oils and gas, which could then go on to become skis, snowboards and insulation materials.” Snowboards is just one product line of one company. In the past year I’ve lagged the roof space of three properties with repurposed plastics. I guess by the time they’re replaced, all plastic and synthetic materials will be collected and re-used again… I understand perfectly....And as for snowboards that is a limited market and the interest is just not there to sustain any form of recycling of turbine blades. They dump over 200 million tons per year just in the USA of knackered blades... |
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Post by Toreador on Mar 3, 2023 16:42:32 GMT
Not sure you’re reading and understanding what you read — the blades would go on to “produce recycled fibers, synthetic oils and gas, which could then go on to become skis, snowboards and insulation materials.” Snowboards is just one product line of one company. In the past year I’ve lagged the roof space of three properties with repurposed plastics. I guess by the time they’re replaced, all plastic and synthetic materials will be collected and re-used again… I understand perfectly.... And as for snowboards that is a limited market and the interest is just not there to sustain any form of recycling of turbine blades. They dump over 200 million tons per year just in the USA of knackered blades... Not when climate change has a snow covered Sahara.  |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 3, 2023 17:00:04 GMT
Yes. To PREVENT, as in stop. So what's your point? Do you really think 'Eco zealots' think batteries will never end? Talking about stupid, do you ever think before you post? yes do you? maybe you can explain how 9 million tons of batteries each year are discarded in landfills is a step closer to the bullshit net zero? This six million tons of batteries, how many come from EV's? I had no idea you were an Eco warrior wanting to stop the use of all batteries. But just to reassure you no one will be throwing EV batteries into land fill, the ones you are referring to are those thrown in the bin by people who don't care about the planet enough to dispose of them in the recycling bin. |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 3, 2023 17:01:07 GMT
I can see their point, it is all a bit rushed. But then we have sat on our hands for the last 30 years and waited until it was urgent. A no win I'm thinking. I think as usual the EU will compromise. As an aside. I am currently out in the Canaries and the skies have clouded over every afternoon (Been coming here twice a year for 14 years now and not seen it like this before. So I looked up changing weather Canaries and found the tourist industry are very worried because climate change has pushed weather systems further down the Atlantic and these are changing the prevailing wind direction and bringing in clouds to the Islands. For a country entirely who's economy is based around winter sun its a devastating blow. Point is there are down sides and costs in doing nothing, just as there are in doing something. The point is that throwing money at an impossible task is fruitless. But etter than throwing away the planet. |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 3, 2023 17:09:43 GMT
Nothing mythical about it. This is where they end up...As do millions of tons of worn blades from wind turbines....It is not economicaly viable to try and recycle the crap. How does that compare to the billions of tons of scrap diesel and petrol vehicles? In the early days fibreglass wind turbine blades were not economical to recycle, but now that is changing. Of course all of this misses the point and shows the total lack of understanding from those who think rubbish tips are comparable with global Co2 levels. Still I expected no better. |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 3, 2023 17:10:39 GMT
Nothing mythical about it. This is where they end up...As do millions of tons of worn blades from wind turbines....It is not economicaly viable to try and recycle the crap. Don't try and combine the two to hide your lack of research. |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 3, 2023 17:15:12 GMT
Information from Sweden's Vattenfall...
The 28-turbine Irene Vorrink site will be the largest wind farm to date from which blades will be fully recycled or reused. As the blades are taken down, they will be cut into smaller pieces suitable to be transported to the recycling facility.
Norwegian recycling company Gjenkraft AS will use some of the blades to produce recycled fibers, synthetic oils and gas, which could then go on to become skis, snowboards and insulation materials.
Vattenfall has set ambitious targets to recycle at least 50% of all decommissioned turbine blades by 2025, rising to 100% by 2030. Sending blades to landfill has already been banned by the developer, which operates 10 onshore and offshore wind farms in the UK. group.vattenfall.com/uk/newsroom/pressreleases/2022/turning-wind-turbines.....-into-skis-insulation-and-solar-farmsAnd was determined as un-economical How many skis would that lot make a year? More than what are sold every year. and as for solar panels they have found that fibreglass absorbs over 39% of solar energy so yet another no-go. How about all that fibreglass insulation. And why are you only worried about waste from renewable systems, there is far more from other sources. 12 million tons of plastic waste goes into the ocean every single year, you could throw all the old turbine blades in the sea and not notice the difference. I sense a hypocrite. |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 3, 2023 17:16:43 GMT
Not sure you’re reading and understanding what you read — the blades would go on to “produce recycled fibers, synthetic oils and gas, which could then go on to become skis, snowboards and insulation materials.” Snowboards is just one product line of one company. In the past year I’ve lagged the roof space of three properties with repurposed plastics. I guess by the time they’re replaced, all plastic and synthetic materials will be collected and re-used again… I understand perfectly....And as for snowboards that is a limited market and the interest is just not there to sustain any form of recycling of turbine blades. They dump over 200 million tons per year just in the USA of knackered blades... Certainly wont be much demand when all the snow is gone. But there be a pretty big demand for boats. |
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