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Post by Pacifico on Feb 15, 2023 8:06:44 GMT
We are going to get to the point where to 'save the planet' all manufacturing in Europe has been outsourced to other parts of the globe..
...with the end result that we no longer have any of the decent well paid jobs and people will not be able to afford a new car anyway.
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Post by Toreador on Feb 15, 2023 8:38:10 GMT
We are going to get to the point where to 'save the planet' all manufacturing in Europe has been outsourced to other parts of the globe.. ...with the end result that we no longer have any of the decent well paid jobs and people will not be able to afford a new car anyway. ....and the west will have no control over energy production, more to the poiint, the big companies won't give a sh1t.
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Post by Orac on Feb 15, 2023 9:01:05 GMT
The west (as we see it now) will have no control over anything at all. It's people will become powerless subjects, unable to feed themselves.
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Post by bancroft on Feb 15, 2023 18:26:30 GMT
We are going to get to the point where to 'save the planet' all manufacturing in Europe has been outsourced to other parts of the globe.. ...with the end result that we no longer have any of the decent well paid jobs and people will not be able to afford a new car anyway. It won't happen IMO, too many already see the duplicity of what is happening. It won't happen overnight though.
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Post by besoeker3 on Feb 15, 2023 21:33:34 GMT
Wasn't this topic about electric cars ?
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Post by Orac on Feb 15, 2023 22:09:50 GMT
It still is (in a way).
More and more people are waking up to the realisation that even electric cars don't really have much to do with electric cars. The electric car plan is that you don't have an economy and your society collapses into food riots. Nobody will have an electric car at that point.
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Post by zanygame on Feb 15, 2023 22:32:27 GMT
It still is (in a way). More and more people are waking up to the realisation that even electric cars don't really have much to do with electric cars. The electric car plan is that you don't have an economy and your society collapses into food riots. Nobody will have an electric car at that point. If anything collapses society, it will be the four horsemen of the apocalypse. We've already got War, Plague and Famine. Just wild animals left. Presumably as we destroy the planet eventually wild animals will in desperation attack us.
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 15, 2023 22:45:19 GMT
Wasn't this topic about electric cars how are you going to afford an electric car without a job?
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Post by Orac on Feb 15, 2023 22:56:14 GMT
It still is (in a way). More and more people are waking up to the realisation that even electric cars don't really have much to do with electric cars. The electric car plan is that you don't have an economy and your society collapses into food riots. Nobody will have an electric car at that point. If anything collapses society, it will be the four horsemen of the apocalypse. We've already got War, Plague and Famine. Just wild animals left. Presumably as we destroy the planet eventually wild animals will in desperation attack us. Old testament has beasts -that's right I guess it's possible that society becomes so ineffectual that we are over-powered by rabbits. My first guess would be China though.
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Post by jonksy on Feb 16, 2023 1:38:14 GMT
Electric cars involved in more accidents than regular vehicles, study shows Electric cars are involved in 50% more traffic accidents than their petrol and diesel counterparts, according to a study by insurer Axa.
The high number of accidents has actually nothing to do with the technology, but everything to do with the driving behaviour of the drivers. It is mainly the fast and sharp acceleration that surprises drivers, especially those new to the cars, and leads to accidents. We see more and more battery-powered electric cars on our motorways. Of newly registered vehicles, more than 17,000 were purely electric in the first half of this year. That is no less than 8.8 percent of new cars. With hybrids included, more than 30 percent of newly registered cars in 2022 will now be fully or partially powered by electric motors. www.brusselstimes.com/287315/electric-cars-involved-in-more-accidents-than-regular-vehicles-study-shows
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Post by Toreador on Feb 16, 2023 7:22:19 GMT
Electric cars involved in more accidents than regular vehicles, study shows Electric cars are involved in 50% more traffic accidents than their petrol and diesel counterparts, according to a study by insurer Axa.
The high number of accidents has actually nothing to do with the technology, but everything to do with the driving behaviour of the drivers. It is mainly the fast and sharp acceleration that surprises drivers, especially those new to the cars, and leads to accidents. We see more and more battery-powered electric cars on our motorways. Of newly registered vehicles, more than 17,000 were purely electric in the first half of this year. That is no less than 8.8 percent of new cars. With hybrids included, more than 30 percent of newly registered cars in 2022 will now be fully or partially powered by electric motors. www.brusselstimes.com/287315/electric-cars-involved-in-more-accidents-than-regular-vehicles-study-showsMany people aren't old enough to remember trams and trolley buses, their acceleration was extroadinary. They were electric and powered by an overhead cable. Trams are coming back in many places.
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Post by zanygame on Feb 16, 2023 7:57:45 GMT
Wasn't this topic about electric cars how are you going to afford an electric car without a job? He doesn't work for Fords. But I thought you were a capitalist? Do you now believe we should stop progress to keep jobs, A true luddite.
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 16, 2023 8:23:54 GMT
how are you going to afford an electric car without a job? He doesn't work for Fords. But I thought you were a capitalist? Do you now believe we should stop progress to keep jobs, A true luddite. Well I count progress as having jobs in Britain - not exporting them to China.. But then I'm old fashioned like that..
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 16, 2023 8:26:03 GMT
Many people aren't old enough to remember trams and trolley buses, their acceleration was extroadinary. They were electric and powered by an overhead cable. Trams are coming back in many places. Trolley busses were ideal for cities - they were simple, light and did not pollute. All the advantages of an EV without any of the disadvantages.
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Post by Toreador on Feb 16, 2023 8:58:28 GMT
Many people aren't old enough to remember trams and trolley buses, their acceleration was extroadinary. They were electric and powered by an overhead cable. Trams are coming back in many places. Trolley busses were ideal for cities - they were simple, light and did not pollute. All the advantages of an EV without any of the disadvantages. And they weren't confined in manoeuverability as were trams
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