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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jan 19, 2023 16:32:02 GMT
...After all the only thing the ultra leaver UK Tory government has done to start to rebuild the UK as a lone state is...pretty much nothing that it couldn't have done while in the EU... Well at least you accept that leaving has actually made little difference rather than being the disaster that the remnants would like to pretend. Perhaps you're beginning to progress through the 5 stages of grief. Well done - many of your comrades have yet to even start that journey. |
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Post by see2 on Jan 19, 2023 16:57:25 GMT
...After all the only thing the ultra leaver UK Tory government has done to start to rebuild the UK as a lone state is...pretty much nothing that it couldn't have done while in the EU... Well at least you accept that leaving has actually made little difference rather than being the disaster that the remnants would like to pretend. Perhaps you're beginning to progress through the 5 stages of grief. Well done - many of your comrades have yet to even start that journey. How many more stages of grief do we have to suffer from Brexit before the claims of progress begin to appear? |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 19, 2023 17:01:59 GMT
Well at least you accept that leaving has actually made little difference rather than being the disaster that the remnants would like to pretend. Perhaps you're beginning to progress through the 5 stages of grief. Well done - many of your comrades have yet to even start that journey. How many more stages of grief do we have to suffer from Brexit before the claims of progress begin to appear? for as many years as the remainers cling on to hope. |
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Post by Bentley on Jan 19, 2023 17:04:43 GMT
As time passes the UK and the EU will find a way to a mutually advantageous way to live with each other.
I hoped that they would find it sooner but eventually the ex remainers will accept reality and both the EU and the UK will accept that we both can profit from each other.
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Post by see2 on Jan 19, 2023 17:07:27 GMT
How many more stages of grief do we have to suffer from Brexit before the claims of progress begin to appear? for as many years as the remainers cling on to hope. The remainers have no power to do anything about Brexit, it is in the hands of the government. So no point in you dodging the question. |
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Post by oracle75 on Jan 19, 2023 17:08:05 GMT
I have never thought anything else.
Like Starmer I disagreed with the result but rejecting democracy, even if it was a huge mistake, is worse. So we try to find the flakes of good in the mudslide.
Now how about taking up my offer of pointing out what wonderful things have been achieved by the UK by leaving.
Cheaper food? Moggie said shoes would be cheaper. The beaurocracy would be far less
Other EU countries would stand in line to leave. Germany's car industry would collapse. The UK fishing fleets would once again control the fish in its own waters. Wages would skyrocket because the foreigners would be thrown out. Only the rich superintelligent professionals would be allowed in. Students and young people would do all the dirty jobs because it didn't do any harm to the last generation.
Sovereignty hasn't protected us from EU regulation or being any more respected in NATO or scientific development. In fact our communications satellite delivery systems blow up.
Our health system is pitied by other comparable countries.
So now you tell me how Brexit has made this country better.
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Post by see2 on Jan 19, 2023 17:10:42 GMT
As time passes the UK and the EU will find a way to a mutually advantageous way to live with each other. I hoped that they would find it sooner but eventually the ex remainers will accept reality and both the EU and the UK will accept that we both can profit from each other. You almost got that spot on, sadly you still want leavers to escape any blame by pointing at remainers for some of the blame. |
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Post by see2 on Jan 19, 2023 17:13:00 GMT
Web Apr 2, 2021 · Sir Keir Starmer finally accepts Brexit as he rules out Britain rejoining EU. Even if Starmer had decided that rejoining the EU was still on the books. Be specific, in what way could Starmer and the afore mentioned actually hold back progress? IF the UK had an answer to NI then, where is it now? I've given you a link answering your question and it was pretty self-explanatory and specific. Don't wriggle. Just accept that he was trying to 'hold back progress on Brexit'. You did just wriggle out of it. You claim you have proof but refuse to pin point it. Sounds very vague to me. Didn't your post refer to something over two years ago? |
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Post by oracle75 on Jan 19, 2023 17:14:09 GMT
As time passes the UK and the EU will find a way to a mutually advantageous way to live with each other. I hoped that they would find it sooner but eventually the ex remainers will accept reality and both the EU and the UK will accept that we both can profit from each other. Well so far the EU seems to be getting on quite well without us. We have the slowest growing economy in the G7. commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn02784/#:~:text=In%20Q3%202022%2C%20the%20UK,after%20two%20quarters%20of%20declines. |
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Post by Bentley on Jan 19, 2023 17:14:18 GMT
As time passes the UK and the EU will find a way to a mutually advantageous way to live with each other. I hoped that they would find it sooner but eventually the ex remainers will accept reality and both the EU and the UK will accept that we both can profit from each other. You almost got that spot on, sadly you still want leavers to escape any blame by pointing at remainers for some of the blame. Blame for what? The UK is at the beginning. The remainers want us to believe that it’s the end . |
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Post by Bentley on Jan 19, 2023 17:16:39 GMT
As time passes the UK and the EU will find a way to a mutually advantageous way to live with each other. I hoped that they would find it sooner but eventually the ex remainers will accept reality and both the EU and the UK will accept that we both can profit from each other. Well so far the EU seems to be getting on quite well without us. We have the slowest growing economy in the G7. commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn02784/#:~:text=In%20Q3%202022%2C%20the%20UK,after%20two%20quarters%20of%20declines. Better that the EU doors well than not. A wealthy EU will profit the UK . A wealthy UK will profit the EU. |
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Post by oracle75 on Jan 19, 2023 17:18:49 GMT
Better that the EU doors well than not. A wealthy EU will profit the UK . A wealthy UK will profit the EU. I thought leavers wanted to make it on their own and not rely on the EU. Goalposts seem to be moving. |
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Post by oracle75 on Jan 19, 2023 17:20:10 GMT
You almost got that spot on, sadly you still want leavers to escape any blame by pointing at remainers for some of the blame. Blame for what? The UK is at the beginning. The remainers want us to believe that it’s the end . Not at all. They are just wondering why they should wait a generation to reinvent the wheel. |
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Post by see2 on Jan 19, 2023 17:21:39 GMT
You almost got that spot on, sadly you still want leavers to escape any blame by pointing at remainers for some of the blame. Blame for what? The UK is at the beginning. The remainers want us to believe that it’s the end . For whatever this means > "but eventually the ex remainers will accept reality" <. |
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Post by Bentley on Jan 19, 2023 17:22:05 GMT
Better that the EU doors well than not. A wealthy EU will profit the UK . A wealthy UK will profit the EU. I thought leavers wanted to make it on their own and not rely on the EU. Goalposts seem to be moving. That’s probably where you went wrong . Remainers have been whining for years that leavers claimed the UK would still trade freely with the EU after leaving . How did you miss that ? |
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