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Post by Toreador on Jan 23, 2023 11:58:46 GMT
There is nothing in the Net Zero Law that makes it dependent on the state of the economy. AFAIA, net zero is a target which the government is committed to, not a law that cannot be broken. IMO, the economy will always come first. Only as a vote catcher. It's why the unintelligent Starmer keeps talking up green to attract votes from the young numpties, knowing he can't deliver. |
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Post by see2 on Jan 23, 2023 12:01:43 GMT
AFAIA, net zero is a target which the government is committed to, not a law that cannot be broken. IMO, the economy will always come first. Only as a vote catcher. It's why the unintelligent Starmer keeps talking up green to attract votes from the young numpties, knowing he can't deliver. I disagree, if Net Zero can be done it will be done. As a target it is a prod for more to be done in the mean time. |
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Post by Toreador on Jan 23, 2023 12:07:23 GMT
Only as a vote catcher. It's why the unintelligent Starmer keeps talking up green to attract votes from the young numpties, knowing he can't deliver. I disagree, if Net Zero can be done it will be done. As a target it is a prod for more to be done in the mean time. It's near impossible to even measure. |
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Post by Bentley on Jan 23, 2023 12:55:43 GMT
So there might be quite a u turn at the end of the decade then. If necessary, yes. But it needn't be too big a turn as its likely that good progress will have been made in the mean time. I doubt it but I hope you are right .👍 |
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Post by see2 on Jan 23, 2023 13:50:58 GMT
It will not be done "too soon". The economy will always be the controlling factor, no government would be foolish enough to deliberately trash the economy. lol, they've all trashed it at some point, it's why I put them in the worthless bracket and theyre even getting worser and worser. lol My point is that no Government would DELIBERATELY trash the economy. |
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Post by Toreador on Jan 23, 2023 15:04:58 GMT
lol, they've all trashed it at some point, it's why I put them in the worthless bracket and theyre even getting worser and worser. lol My point is that no Government would DELIBERATELY trash the economy. Having wrong policies, not spotting potential problems are just two things that say you are wrong, government is elected to run the country in the same way some people are charged with running companies. In either case the buck stops there. |
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Post by see2 on Jan 23, 2023 15:14:37 GMT
My point is that no Government would DELIBERATELY trash the economy. Having wrong policies, not spotting potential problems are just two things that say you are wrong, government is elected to run the country in the same way some people are charged with running companies. In either case the buck stops there. Are you saying that Net Zero could trash the economy without Starmer and Co. understanding what they were doing? |
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Post by Toreador on Jan 23, 2023 15:21:44 GMT
Having wrong policies, not spotting potential problems are just two things that say you are wrong, government is elected to run the country in the same way some people are charged with running companies. In either case the buck stops there. Are you saying that Net Zero could trash the economy without Starmer and Co. understanding what they were doing? Yes because he wouldn't know he was doing it, Starmer is all the evidence that you don't need top be really bright to be a lawyer. |
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Post by see2 on Jan 23, 2023 15:44:31 GMT
Are you saying that Net Zero could trash the economy without Starmer and Co. understanding what they were doing? Yes because he wouldn't know he was doing it, Starmer is all the evidence that you don't need top be really bright to be a lawyer. Please explain how he can be informed on the economy etc. and not know he was trashing the economy. |
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Post by Toreador on Jan 23, 2023 16:28:48 GMT
Yes because he wouldn't know he was doing it, Starmer is all the evidence that you don't need top be really bright to be a lawyer. Please explain how he can be informed on the economy etc. and not know he was trashing the economy. As a minister he would know and as the leader of the opposition he should have some idea in order to vote on fiscal matters; the budget is a good example where the opposition vote against, and sometimes for, the budget; they have a preview of it. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 23, 2023 17:37:04 GMT
There is nothing in the Net Zero Law that makes it dependent on the state of the economy. AFAIA, net zero is a target which the government is committed to, not a law that cannot be broken. IMO, the economy will always come first. The Climate Change Act was amended in 2019 to make it a legally binding commitment to achieve Net Zero by 2050. Of course you can always change the law but I cant see any major party having the balls to do that - they will just blame the economic damage on something else. |
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Post by zanygame on Jan 23, 2023 18:38:35 GMT
I would point out that both major parties support net zero.
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 23, 2023 18:44:07 GMT
I would point out that both major parties support net zero. Which is precisely why I will vote for neither of them.. |
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Post by Toreador on Jan 23, 2023 18:50:15 GMT
I would point out that both major parties support net zero. I know they do but I understand why and so could you if you thought about it or even read my posts. |
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Post by zanygame on Jan 23, 2023 18:51:13 GMT
I would point out that both major parties support net zero. Which is precisely why I will vote for neither of them.. As is your right. |
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