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Post by Pacifico on Jan 21, 2023 22:25:48 GMT
Well Labour did it because they wanted to 'rub the Right's nose in diversity' - and as I have pointed out before, immigration did not grow GDP per capita so we were no better off. Yes ofcourse they did 🙄 And why did the Tories do it? I would have though that fucking obvious - they wanted to support big business (and companies like yours) and keep wages low You were not expecting the Tories to support the working class were you?
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Post by zanygame on Jan 21, 2023 23:13:39 GMT
Yes ofcourse they did 🙄 And why did the Tories do it? I would have though that fucking obvious - they wanted to support big business (and companies like yours) and keep wages low You were not expecting the Tories to support the working class were you? Well who'd have thought you were a friend. Wonders never cease.
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Post by see2 on Jan 22, 2023 0:29:23 GMT
Yep, we didn't want it but we needed our GDP to grow each year and we weren't having children. The alternative was to pay more tax each. Do tell me why do you think every government bought hundreds of thousands of immigrants in every year? Well Labour did it because they wanted to 'rub the Right's nose in diversity' - and as I have pointed out before, immigration did not grow GDP per capita so we were no better off. NL brought more EU workers in because the UK had an expanding economy. An expanding economy was good for government income.
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Post by zanygame on Jan 22, 2023 7:45:21 GMT
Yes ofcourse they did 🙄 And why did the Tories do it? I would have though that fucking obvious - they wanted to support big business (and companies like yours) and keep wages low You were not expecting the Tories to support the working class were you? ..and get more tax.
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Post by Red Rackham on Jan 22, 2023 16:09:55 GMT
Countries that have millions of poor people and huge coal reserves, will continue to burn coal of that you can be sure. As Narendra Modi said, "There is no climate change".Ah, so you are another of those elderly climate change deniers. In years to come as the youth of today grow older on a ruined planet, they will curse your name and memory and piss on your grave. I am not a climate denier, for Christs sake you eco mentalists don't seem to understand that the climate has always changed.
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Post by zanygame on Jan 22, 2023 16:45:12 GMT
Ah, so you are another of those elderly climate change deniers. In years to come as the youth of today grow older on a ruined planet, they will curse your name and memory and piss on your grave. I am not a climate denier, for Christs sake you eco mentalists don't seem to understand that the climate has always changed. Yeah you know what we did know that. For Christ sake don't you know we are aware of this and still very concerned. Care to consider why or are you just on a continuous loop.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2023 20:34:17 GMT
Ah, so you are another of those elderly climate change deniers. In years to come as the youth of today grow older on a ruined planet, they will curse your name and memory and piss on your grave. I am not a climate denier, for Christs sake you eco mentalists don't seem to understand that the climate has always changed. And you denialists dont seem to understand what the science is telling us in spades. This time we are causing the change.
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Post by Red Rackham on Jan 22, 2023 20:55:37 GMT
I am not a climate denier, for Christs sake you eco mentalists don't seem to understand that the climate has always changed. And you denialists dont seem to understand what the science is telling us in spades. This time we are causing the change. OK, lets assume you're right and current climate change is man made. How will forcing people in this country into fuel poverty save the planet? The UK is a tiny country that accounts for just 0.8% of the global population and who's contribution to global emissions is negligible. Forcing us into fuel poverty will not stop the big polluters, it will just make us poorer and UK Plc less competitive. The world’s biggest polluters. 1. China 2. United States 3. India 4. Russia 5. Japan 6. Germany 7. Iran 8. South Korea 9. Saudi Arabia 10. Indonesia climatetrade.com/which-countries-are-the-worlds-biggest-carbon-polluters/
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Post by zanygame on Jan 22, 2023 21:10:41 GMT
And you denialists dont seem to understand what the science is telling us in spades. This time we are causing the change. OK, lets assume you're right and current climate change is man made. How will forcing people in this country into fuel poverty save the planet? The UK is a tiny country that accounts for just 0.8% of the global population and who's contribution to global emissions is negligible. Forcing us into fuel poverty will not stop the big polluters, it will just make us poorer and UK Plc less competitive. The world’s biggest polluters. 1. China 2. United States 3. India 4. Russia 5. Japan 6. Germany 7. Iran 8. South Korea 9. Saudi Arabia 10. Indonesia climatetrade.com/which-countries-are-the-worlds-biggest-carbon-polluters/So you are on permanent loop I only explained this to you a day ago. If you've made up your mind then stop debating.
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Post by Toreador on Jan 22, 2023 21:21:06 GMT
OK, lets assume you're right and current climate change is man made. How will forcing people in this country into fuel poverty save the planet? The UK is a tiny country that accounts for just 0.8% of the global population and who's contribution to global emissions is negligible. Forcing us into fuel poverty will not stop the big polluters, it will just make us poorer and UK Plc less competitive. The world’s biggest polluters. 1. China 2. United States 3. India 4. Russia 5. Japan 6. Germany 7. Iran 8. South Korea 9. Saudi Arabia 10. Indonesia climatetrade.com/which-countries-are-the-worlds-biggest-carbon-polluters/So you are on permanent loop I only explained this to you a day ago. If you've made up your mind then stop debating. So why are you still trying to debate if your mind is made up?
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Post by Red Rackham on Jan 22, 2023 21:25:32 GMT
OK, lets assume you're right and current climate change is man made. How will forcing people in this country into fuel poverty save the planet? The UK is a tiny country that accounts for just 0.8% of the global population and who's contribution to global emissions is negligible. Forcing us into fuel poverty will not stop the big polluters, it will just make us poorer and UK Plc less competitive. The world’s biggest polluters. 1. China 2. United States 3. India 4. Russia 5. Japan 6. Germany 7. Iran 8. South Korea 9. Saudi Arabia 10. Indonesia climatetrade.com/which-countries-are-the-worlds-biggest-carbon-polluters/So you are on permanent loop I only explained this to you a day ago. If you've made up your mind then stop debating. In other words, you have no answer.
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Post by zanygame on Jan 22, 2023 22:09:38 GMT
So you are on permanent loop I only explained this to you a day ago. If you've made up your mind then stop debating. In other words, you have no answer. I only explained this to you a day ago.
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Post by Toreador on Jan 22, 2023 22:10:55 GMT
In other words, you have no answer. I only explained this to you a day ago. So why are you still trying to debate if your mind is made up?
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Post by see2 on Jan 22, 2023 22:57:14 GMT
Ah, so you are another of those elderly climate change deniers. In years to come as the youth of today grow older on a ruined planet, they will curse your name and memory and piss on your grave. I am not a climate denier, for Christs sake you eco mentalists don't seem to understand that the climate has always changed. I think we understand that, we also understand that the heating up of the planet has never been aided and abetted by human produced green house gasses to this extent before today.
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Post by see2 on Jan 22, 2023 23:00:02 GMT
And you denialists dont seem to understand what the science is telling us in spades. This time we are causing the change. OK, lets assume you're right and current climate change is man made. How will forcing people in this country into fuel poverty save the planet? Who suggested forcing people in this country into fuel poverty?
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