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Post by johnofgwent on Nov 3, 2024 9:50:51 GMT

Oct 20, 2022 9:11:16 GMT Cartertonian said:

Morning Red

Genuine question - I'm not being partisan about it - do you genuinely believe that a true majority of the British people support the kind of libertarian, right-wing views of both the Britannia Unchained types and the Reform party? I certainly don't believe, for example, that a genuinely true majority of the British people actually support left-wing socialism OR right-wing libertarianism.

Ergo, if you are a believer in democracy, then under no circumstances should either left-wing socialism OR right-wing libertarianism be granted access to the levers of power in this country.

I'm sorry to say it, but in my view any uncompromising supporter of either left-wing socialism OR right-wing libertarianism is proposing that an ideology supported by a small minority of the electorate should be imposed on ALL the people of this country for their own good. That is fundamentally undemocratic and paves the way for totalitarianism.

Edit:

Spotted this on Twitter - sums it up:

"Anyone still think that big majorities are a good thing? That they stabilise politics? They just give a party Carte Blanche. Get rid of the Tories but also get rid of FPTP. Collapse of the Tories will have schadenfreude, but we actually need a more balanced & complex parliament."

If I may jump in...

I was for some time as a younger man convinced that a small majority was a good thing. I held this opinion from comparing my earning power and disposable income in the dying days of Jim Callaghan's minority government propped up.by the Liberal Party's 'social compact' which in effect paralysed them and let me get on with my life, compared to Maggie Thatcher and Geoffrey Howe's 'budget of consolidation' that basically kicked everyone who worked to earn a living in tbe teeth, seeing as how she had put herself up on a platform of lowering taxes and giving you mote to spend on things...

The problem of abolishing FPTP is all too evident in Wales, where a minority left wing labour party is wagged by the tail of uberMarxists who deem violence, bombing and arson acceptable ways to push their political doctrine on an unwilling electorate, and face zero opposition in a unicameral legislature.

I fear abolishing FPTP will give Westminster a Knesset, a minority government at the beck and call of a flock of barking mad cultists...

Post by Red Rackham on Nov 1, 2024 16:04:29 GMT

Post by johnofgwent on Nov 3, 2024 9:50:51 GMT