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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2023 19:34:16 GMT
Apart from all the added red tape and regulations that Brexit has caused Red tape that's imposed by the EU, not the UK, and that's because we must be punished for Brexit. It is because we are no longer a member nor even a member of any customs union, so we must be treated as any other outside state. This is something we chose to bring upon ourselves by leaving. It is no use blaming them. Own the consequences of what you fought for. |
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Post by bancroft on Jan 20, 2023 19:35:47 GMT
Was always going to happen I recall the Netherlands premier saying he would never allow their country a vote as they might vote to leave.
Now we see 30k Dutch farms being forcibly closed due to the WEF.
The Netherlands obviously is losing it's democracy stealthily.
We got out at the right time, there are the Americas, Asia and Australia if aonyone wants to travel without Fourth Reich's red tape,
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Post by Montegriffo on Jan 20, 2023 19:36:23 GMT
Apart from all the added red tape and regulations that Brexit has caused Red tape that's imposed by the EU, not the UK, and that's because we must be punished for Brexit. It's because we chose to shoot ourselves in the foot. It has nothing to do with punishment. We chose to give up the benefits of membership and everybody should have understood what we would lose before we went to the ballot box but most had no idea. The fact that you now claim it is ''punishment'' proves you didn't understand what the consequences were. |
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Post by nonnie2 on Jan 20, 2023 19:37:11 GMT
Let me say, your life to many is hoity toity, so hardly anyone is bothered about how dreadful it is now going to Ireland or to your second home in France. Many here would like to buy their first house, never mind jetting off to France supping champagne. It's a one bed barn conversion in a rural part of France where house prices are really low. It's worth about 10-15k. There's nothing hoity-toity about it but it did give me the opportunity to live a champagne lifestyle on a brown ale budget. I'm far from rich. Brexit has robbed me of opportunity based on a really narrow margin based on lies and distortions. Pisses me off and there are many like me. If you hope we are all going to shut up about it I fear you are going to be very disappointed. There's a plot of about 8.6 acres with a 30 metre derelict stone building in France for €31,000. The girlfriend and I are quite tempted to buy it. Not being in the EU doesn't faze me. On YouTube, CarlRogers and his dad are doing up a French home, they have to pop back to the UK now and then, but they're coping. I'm sure we will all survive With Brexit, if I was told my shoelaces from a certain date can only be a certain breaking strain, length, and colour, I want that to be decided by Westminster, and not from an EU directive. Like I said, if it was still a common market with a commission, Brexit would have never happened. In the 70's that's what people went into, not a dictatorship EU parliament. So if anyone is to blame, twine at the idiots in Brussels. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jan 20, 2023 19:38:06 GMT
Oh spare me. There's absolutely nothing stopping you going to Ireland (or anywhere else) and doing exactly the same, so stop being such an absolute melt, there's a chap.
Apart from all the added red tape and regulations that Brexit has caused. So fill in the EU forms. It ain't rocket science. |
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Post by nonnie2 on Jan 20, 2023 19:40:17 GMT
Oh spare me. There's absolutely nothing stopping you going to Ireland (or anywhere else) and doing exactly the same, so stop being such an absolute melt, there's a chap.
Apart from all the added red tape and regulations that Brexit has caused. Red tape! Good grief. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jan 20, 2023 19:41:32 GMT
Apart from all the added red tape and regulations that Brexit has caused. ...I think that the whole "Export difficulty" thing is nonsense. Any properly run company that exports to the EU will have got a grip of the paperwork by now and the process is the same every time so it's largely a cut & paste exercise. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jan 20, 2023 19:46:20 GMT
Red tape that's imposed by the EU, not the UK, and that's because we must be punished for Brexit. It is because we are no longer a member nor even a member of any customs union, so we must be treated as any other outside state. This is something we chose to bring upon ourselves by leaving. It is no use blaming them. Own the consequences of what you fought for. It's EU red tape that wasn't there before the UK joined the EU, but was imposed by the EU after we left. The UK must be punished for Brexit. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Jan 20, 2023 19:46:24 GMT
It's a one bed barn conversion in a rural part of France where house prices are really low. It's worth about 10-15k. There's nothing hoity-toity about it but it did give me the opportunity to live a champagne lifestyle on a brown ale budget. I'm far from rich. Brexit has robbed me of opportunity based on a really narrow margin based on lies and distortions. Pisses me off and there are many like me. If you hope we are all going to shut up about it I fear you are going to be very disappointed. There's a plot of about 8.6 acres with a 30 metre derelict stone building in France for €31,000. The girlfriend and I are quite tempted to buy it. Not being in the EU doesn't faze me. On YouTube, CarlRogers and his dad are doing up a French home, they have to pop back to the UK now and then, but they're coping. I'm sure we will all survive With Brexit, if I was told my shoelaces from a certain date can only be a certain breaking strain, length, and colour, I want that to be decided by Westminster, and not from an EU directive. Like I said, if it was still a common market with a commission, Brexit would have never happened. In the 70's that's what people went into, not a dictatorship EU parliament. So if anyone is to blame, twine at the idiots in Brussels. I wasn't happy with the idea of a federation either but now we have lost all control over the direction the EU will go. We have ceded power to France and Germany to do as they please. On top we have lost all the benefits of the single market. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jan 20, 2023 19:49:03 GMT
Red tape that's imposed by the EU, not the UK, and that's because we must be punished for Brexit. It's because we chose to shoot ourselves in the foot. It has nothing to do with punishment. We chose to give up the benefits of membership and everybody should have understood what we would lose before we went to the ballot box but most had no idea. The fact that you now claim it is ''punishment'' proves you didn't understand what the consequences were. It's EU red tape that wasn't there before the UK joined the EU, but was imposed by the EU after we left. The UK must be punished for Brexit. |
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Post by nonnie2 on Jan 20, 2023 19:49:45 GMT
Red tape that's imposed by the EU, not the UK, and that's because we must be punished for Brexit. It's because we chose to shoot ourselves in the foot. It has nothing to do with punishment. We chose to give up the benefits of membership and everybody should have understood what we would lose before we went to the ballot box but most had no idea. The fact that you now claim it is ''punishment'' proves you didn't understand what the consequences were. We chose sovereignty, we weren't bothered about membership. No foot shooting, no punishment. We quit the gym and handed the towel back. When we left, we and the EU should have just put tariffs in place, 30% on everything. We buy more off the EU then we sell, they have much more to lose. I have contacts in the German Kitchen business. When Brexit was announced that we were leaving, German kitchen manufacturers were saying many were going bust and closing down because UK orders were drying up. But there's no shortage of kitchens because there's been a switch to UK manufacturers. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Jan 20, 2023 19:50:24 GMT
It is because we are no longer a member nor even a member of any customs union, so we must be treated as any other outside state. This is something we chose to bring upon ourselves by leaving. It is no use blaming them. Own the consequences of what you fought for. It's EU red tape that wasn't there before the UK joined the EU, but was imposed by the EU after we left. The UK must be punished for Brexit. That's nonsense. The regulations have been there for years we just never noticed them because they didn't apply to us until we left. That it comes as a shock to you now just shows how terribly people were informed before they chose to damage their future. |
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Post by nonnie2 on Jan 20, 2023 19:52:49 GMT
There's a plot of about 8.6 acres with a 30 metre derelict stone building in France for €31,000. The girlfriend and I are quite tempted to buy it. Not being in the EU doesn't faze me. On YouTube, CarlRogers and his dad are doing up a French home, they have to pop back to the UK now and then, but they're coping. I'm sure we will all survive With Brexit, if I was told my shoelaces from a certain date can only be a certain breaking strain, length, and colour, I want that to be decided by Westminster, and not from an EU directive. Like I said, if it was still a common market with a commission, Brexit would have never happened. In the 70's that's what people went into, not a dictatorship EU parliament. So if anyone is to blame, twine at the idiots in Brussels. I wasn't happy with the idea of a federation either but now we have lost all control over the direction the EU will go. We have ceded power to France and Germany to do as they please. On top we have lost all the benefits of the single market. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face. The EU was pushing for more integration, basically, stripping each member state of their governments to have one United States of Europe. Us Brits said fuck off to that. So why did Remoaners want our government to be converted into a local council office and you must be led by Brussels?? |
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Post by nonnie2 on Jan 20, 2023 19:54:04 GMT
It's EU red tape that wasn't there before the UK joined the EU, but was imposed by the EU after we left. The UK must be punished for Brexit. That's nonsense. The regulations have been there for years we just never noticed them because they didn't apply to us until we left. That it comes as a shock to you now just shows how terribly people were informed before they chose to damage their future. . So when did 5% vat appear on energy! What red tape appeared on window blinds! |
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Post by Montegriffo on Jan 20, 2023 20:00:19 GMT
It's because we chose to shoot ourselves in the foot. It has nothing to do with punishment. We chose to give up the benefits of membership and everybody should have understood what we would lose before we went to the ballot box but most had no idea. The fact that you now claim it is ''punishment'' proves you didn't understand what the consequences were. We chose sovereignty, we weren't bothered about membership. No foot shooting, no punishment. We quit the gym and handed the towel back. When we left, we and the EU should have just put tariffs in place, 30% on everything. We buy more off the EU then we sell, they have much more to lose. I have contacts in the German Kitchen business. When Brexit was announced that we were leaving, German kitchen manufacturers were saying many were going bust and closing down because UK orders were drying up. But there's no shortage of kitchens because there's been a switch to UK manufacturers. Back to sovereignty again. That's all any one's really got isn't it? Despite the fact the only time Parliamentary Supremacy was threatened in any meaningful way was when Boris tried to subvert it by unlawfully proroguing it in an attempt to sneak us out with no deal. |
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