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Post by om15 on Jan 14, 2023 15:10:39 GMT
Civil servants refusing to go to work and nobody is making them, railway workers on strike so people can't get to work and NHS strikes preventing ill people from becoming better and going to work.
Before the usual shrieking that all of that is the fault of the Tories just ponder on what Mick Lynch stands for and who is behind him.
Once again we need a Missis Thatcher to sort it all out.
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Post by jonksy on Jan 14, 2023 16:56:56 GMT
They are not as amusing as the Brexnits who did most of the moaning before the referendum, and now do most of the moaning again. And don't appear to have much to look forward to, to back up their claims on Brexit. It's been a huge let down so far. Not whinging, just saying  Perhaps people were moaning before the referendum because they were annoyed about the way we were handed to the EU, without a referendum. Hey it's a thought. Brexit has not been a let down. How can it be? Brexit was designed to remove the UK from the EU which is what the majority voted for, and that is exactly what happened, eventually. Thanks to pro EU politicians who don't give a damn what the majority want it took a lot longer that it should have, but democracy in the end prevailed. You remainiacs are fond of blaming Brexit for everything from the crucifixion to the price of bread, but the fact is the €urozone is in exactly the same situation, in some cases significantly worse, is this because of Brexit too? Or is it due to Covid and it's legacy, war in Ukraine, fuel prices and a global economic downturn. You remainiacs are pro EU left wing opportunists who are willing to jump on any and every pro EU band waggon that passes. Who knew lol. There remaniacs never want to discuss "document FCO 30/1048" apart from the usual one who tried to make out it had been debunked and had to use his usual tactic. I am sure you know who I mean. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jan 14, 2023 17:05:57 GMT
Perhaps people were moaning before the referendum because they were annoyed about the way we were handed to the EU, without a referendum. Hey it's a thought. Brexit has not been a let down. How can it be? Brexit was designed to remove the UK from the EU which is what the majority voted for, and that is exactly what happened, eventually. Thanks to pro EU politicians who don't give a damn what the majority want it took a lot longer that it should have, but democracy in the end prevailed. You remainiacs are fond of blaming Brexit for everything from the crucifixion to the price of bread, but the fact is the €urozone is in exactly the same situation, in some cases significantly worse, is this because of Brexit too? Or is it due to Covid and it's legacy, war in Ukraine, fuel prices and a global economic downturn. You remainiacs are pro EU left wing opportunists who are willing to jump on any and every pro EU band waggon that passes. Who knew lol. There remaniacs never want to discuss "document FCO 30/1048" apart from the usual one who tried to make out it had been debunked and had to use his usual tactic. I am sure you know who I mean. Indeed Jonksy, I have that document on my desktop, often comes in handy. The duplicitous pro EU bastards in parliament kept it secret for 30 years. Every remainiac should read it, it should be part of the national curriculum. |
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Post by Handyman on Jan 14, 2023 17:33:29 GMT
Those who want the UK to re-join the EU are in for a surprise if UK tried to do so, the EU will not allow it to happen easily or quickly , that is why IMO they are making as difficult as possible over the Irish border, you can't make any deal if the person or origination you are trying to broker a deal with does not want to make a deal
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Post by Steve on Jan 14, 2023 18:14:49 GMT
There remaniacs never want to discuss "document FCO 30/1048" apart from the usual one who tried to make out it had been debunked and had to use his usual tactic. I am sure you know who I mean. Indeed Jonksy, I have that document on my desktop, often comes in handy. The duplicitous pro EU bastards in parliament kept it secret for 30 years. Every remainiac should read it, it should be part of the national curriculum. More leaver mythology ^ Ted Heath briefed the Commons on the essence of that document before the 1971 vote to join the then EEC. Jonksy has been told this before and shown the proof. But some people do like their sad denial and others are such suckers for leaver myths. |
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Post by Bentley on Jan 14, 2023 18:31:51 GMT
Indeed Jonksy, I have that document on my desktop, often comes in handy. The duplicitous pro EU bastards in parliament kept it secret for 30 years. Every remainiac should read it, it should be part of the national curriculum. More leaver mythology ^ Ted Heath briefed the Commons on the essence of that document before the 1971 vote to join the then EEC. Jonksy has been told this before and shown the proof. But some people do like their sad denial and others are such suckers for leaver myths. ‘ Essence’ ? |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 14, 2023 20:11:56 GMT
More leaver mythology ^ Ted Heath briefed the Commons on the essence of that document before the 1971 vote to join the then EEC. Jonksy has been told this before and shown the proof. But some people do like their sad denial and others are such suckers for leaver myths. ‘ Essence’ ? LOL Just like magic it pops up mate.....The only thing that I was ever shown was a frigging red triangle along with a vacation.....LOL |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jan 14, 2023 20:27:01 GMT
Indeed Jonksy, I have that document on my desktop, often comes in handy. The duplicitous pro EU bastards in parliament kept it secret for 30 years. Every remainiac should read it, it should be part of the national curriculum. More leaver mythology ^ Ted Heath briefed the Commons on the essence of that document before the 1971 vote to join the then EEC. Jonksy has been told this before and shown the proof. But some people do like their sad denial and others are such suckers for leaver myths. In 1971, an FCO memorandum known as FCO 30/1048 was drafted. This document details how the UK would surrender sovereignty if it were to join the E.E.C/EU. However, this document was classified as Confidential, and not released into the public domain until 2002. The surrender of sovereign powers, as a consequence of signing the Treaty of Rome, Maastricht, and Lisbon, is in breach of the British constitution, as detailed in the Bill of Rights 1688. This Bill has never been repealed, and as such was and is still in force. The contents of FCO 30/1048, and the effect to UK sovereignty, were not made available to the British public during the 1975 referendum. References: Bill of Rights 1688 FCO 30/1048 Treaty of Rome Maastricht Treaty Lisbon Treaty I have every confidence that Steve will say they're all wrong, and provide not a shred of evidence to support his spurious claim. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jan 14, 2023 20:30:15 GMT
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Post by Red Rackham on Jan 14, 2023 20:35:22 GMT
"There are some in this country who fear that in going into Europe we shall in some way sacrifice independence and sovereignty. These fears, I need hardly say, are completely unjustified."
Prime Minister Edward Heath, television broadcast on Britain's entry into the Common Market, January 1973.
This country quite voluntarily surrendered the once seemingly immortal concept of the sovereignty of parliament and legislative freedom by membership of the European Union ... as a once sovereign power, we have said we want to be bound by Community law.
Judge Bruce Morgan, judgement in Sunderland metrication case April 9, 2001.
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Post by Red Rackham on Jan 14, 2023 20:39:24 GMT
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Post by jonksy on Jan 14, 2023 21:07:21 GMT
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Post by Steve on Jan 14, 2023 21:17:07 GMT
LOL Just like magic it pops up mate.....The only thing that I was ever shown was a frigging red triangle along with a vacation.....LOL  and wrong, again |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 14, 2023 21:19:38 GMT
LOL Just like magic it pops up mate.....The only thing that I was ever shown was a frigging red triangle along with a vacation.....LOL and wrong, again Feel free to post your proof to the contrary, we could all do with a good laugh on this wet drearyJanuary day. |
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Post by Steve on Jan 14, 2023 21:24:26 GMT
More leaver mythology ^ Ted Heath briefed the Commons on the essence of that document before the 1971 vote to join the then EEC. Jonksy has been told this before and shown the proof. But some people do like their sad denial and others are such suckers for leaver myths. ‘ Essence’ ? (and available from newsagents at the time for 25p) Happy reading, clearly accepted that some sovereignty was being ceded (as per that report some leavers pretend was kept dead quiet) but not essential sovereignty (which of course never was) No apologies for pissing on some West Country teddy bears |
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