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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 12, 2023 1:32:20 GMT
You'd think the bastards would have something better to do, but no.
"Property is theft!" Pierre-Joseph Proudhon 1840
No fun in Soviet Britain.
So what do they do when they are not nicking scooters?
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Post by Toreador on Jan 12, 2023 6:14:42 GMT
Better they banned the sale, other than special places for using these contraptions they're neither safe on the roads nor on pavements; do you have one?
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Post by Handyman on Jan 12, 2023 9:03:25 GMT
They are not kids toys, kids scooters are the ones they propel by leg power , these dangerous scooters have electric motors and some can reach speeds of 20mph and above , they are silent not ridden by kids most of the time but by older morons , I have had more than near one miss as they come up behind you on the pavement you cant hear them, get hit and injured by one no insurance if the arrogant morons actually stop
They weave in and out of the traffic, as far as I am aware they are illegal on the public highway only supposed to be ridden on private land in some areas of the country, you can hire them as far as I am aware they are legal , the others may not be
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 12, 2023 10:44:57 GMT
Better they banned the sale, other than special places for using these contraptions they're neither safe on the roads nor on pavements; do you have one? No I don't, but a friend of my Maltese woman has one. She teaches at a language school in Malta and uses it to get to work. It's this country which has the fascist problem. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 12, 2023 10:50:34 GMT
They are not kids toys, kids scooters are the ones they propel by leg power , these dangerous scooters have electric motors and some can reach speeds of 20mph and above , they are silent not ridden by kids most of the time but by older morons , I have had more than near one miss as they come up behind you on the pavement you cant hear them, get hit and injured by one no insurance if the arrogant morons actually stop They weave in and out of the traffic, as far as I am aware they are illegal on the public highway only supposed to be ridden on private land in some areas of the country, you can hire them as far as I am aware they are legal , the others may not be Only the private ones are illegal. The council ones are not. Chances are some council bastards have their fingers in the till.
Yes many kids in my area enjoyed skateboards and the non-motorised version that came before. Just because you can't see them, should not mean a nanny state is imposed on the younger ones. They will grow up to hate you otherwise and probably end up chucking bricks through your window if you treat them like this.
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Post by Bentley on Jan 12, 2023 12:24:00 GMT
They are dangerous. Dangerous for pedestrians when the idiots ride them on pavements and dangerous for the idiots when they ride them on the road .
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Post by Handyman on Jan 12, 2023 12:53:38 GMT
Yes that is why trials were carried out by Private Companies who hired them out in London and a couple of other Cities, you have to be at least 16 years of age to hire them, the Police have taken action action against private users and have authority to seize them when used unlawfully . Some of them have caused fires in the owners homes when charging them faulty batteries or overcharging Legislation I believe is being changed or has been, lots of uses have had accidents bad ones on them, and pedestrians have been hurt by them www.techradar.com/news/are-electric-scooters-legal-in-the-uk.. |
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Post by patman post on Jan 12, 2023 12:55:22 GMT
Leg-powered bikes, trikes and scooters can be a menace to pedestrians if used in the wrong place and recklessly. Electric versions, some of which can go way over 30mph are even more dangerous.
There are some that resemble motorcycles with pillion seats and large wide wheels — no number plates though.
My question to the authorities is why has it taken so long for action to be taken against these illegal road users and for training and licensing to be put in place? It seems that like many pedal cyclists, electric bike and scooter riders think the Highway Code does not apply to them because they cannot be traced.
Electric bikes and scooters seem an ideal means of transport for many people — but there needs to be some way of limiting their danger to others…
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Post by Handyman on Jan 12, 2023 13:16:08 GMT
Any type of vehicle can be dangerous in the hands of a fool , with or without numbers plates
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Post by patman post on Jan 12, 2023 14:25:58 GMT
Any type of vehicle can be dangerous in the hands of a fool , with or without numbers plates Agreed. But if the driver/rider is trained and licensed, and the vehicle is traceable, even the number of fools can be restricted and victims of foolishness seek compensation. Admittedly it’s probably too late for pedal cycles and adult riders — though, like pets, it can’t be beyond technology to devise a system where every bicycle is chipped… |
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Post by Bentley on Jan 12, 2023 14:45:16 GMT
How and where could an electric scooter , that is too fast for pavements and too slow for roads , ever be a safe way to travel?
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Post by patman post on Jan 12, 2023 14:59:23 GMT
How and where could an electric scooter , that is too fast for pavements and too slow for roads , ever be a safe way to travel? Couldn’t that also be an argument for pedal cycles? But despite the speed restriction of 15.5mph for electric scooters, I see many going faster than the growing number of 20mph restrictions in London… |
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Post by Bentley on Jan 12, 2023 15:03:21 GMT
How and where could an electric scooter , that is too fast for pavements and too slow for roads , ever be a safe way to travel? Couldn’t that also be an argument for pedal cycles? But despite the speed restriction of 15.5mph for electric scooters, I see many going faster than the growing number of 20mph restrictions in London… It could but to use it to argue for electric scooters would be part whataboutery and part two wrongs make a right fallacy , wouldn’t it? So what is it about a 20 mph electric scooter moving though pedestrians or the same vehicle moving through traffic that you could possibly think is not dangerous either to pedestrians or the rider? |
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Post by Handyman on Jan 12, 2023 15:23:52 GMT
Any type of vehicle can be dangerous in the hands of a fool , with or without numbers plates Agreed. But if the driver/rider is trained and licensed, and the vehicle is traceable, even the number of fools can be restricted and victims of foolishness seek compensation. Admittedly it’s probably too late for pedal cycles and adult riders — though, like pets, it can’t be beyond technology to devise a system where every bicycle is chipped… Riders of pedal cycles including electric pedal cycles don't have to undergo training nor electric scooters, nor do they need a licence or insurance, just because a motorcycle or motor vehicle has a number plate it does not mean 100% of the time the rider or driver can be traced or the owner identified , lots of cloned vehicles out there. The Police recover hundreds of stolen bicycles every year they struggle to trace the owners as it is , even if a pedal cycle is chipped how many times has it changed hands or even had the chip removed, or stolen or scrapped or sold |
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Post by patman post on Jan 12, 2023 15:27:58 GMT
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