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Post by Bentley on Jan 13, 2023 15:32:28 GMT
Yes that is why trials were carried out by Private Companies who hired them out in London and a couple of other Cities, you have to be at least 16 years of age to hire them, the Police have taken action action against private users and have authority to seize them when used unlawfully . Some of them have caused fires in the owners homes when charging them faulty batteries or overcharging Legislation I believe is being changed or has been, lots of uses have had accidents bad ones on them, and pedestrians have been hurt by them www.techradar.com/news/are-electric-scooters-legal-in-the-uk.. You don't get this bullshit in China. All the kids zoom around on them and they are very skilful so they don't hit anyone. You want a nanny state full of couch potatoes which can't do sod all because they were never allowed to do anything in case they had an accident. It seems to me there is nothing more fascist than democracy, where the moany gits shout the loudest. How do you know that they are ALL are so very skilful so they don’t hit anyone ? When was the last time that you witnessed kids in China zooming around among Chinese pedestrians shoeing if this skill? Do they have a nationwide scooter skill school? |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 13, 2023 15:49:38 GMT
You don't get this bullshit in China. All the kids zoom around on them and they are very skilful so they don't hit anyone. You want a nanny state full of couch potatoes which can't do sod all because they were never allowed to do anything in case they had an accident. It seems to me there is nothing more fascist than democracy, where the moany gits shout the loudest. How do you know that they are ALL are so very skilful so they don’t hit anyone ? When was the last time that you witnessed kids in China zooming around among Chinese pedestrians shoeing if this skill? Do they have a nationwide scooter skill school?
As my brother's Chinese wife was saying at Christmas, "Now I know why everyone takes drugs in Britain. It's because life sucks so much in this country".
Congratulations for adding to it. You are truly a hero.
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Post by Bentley on Jan 13, 2023 16:02:04 GMT
How do you know that they are ALL are so very skilful so they don’t hit anyone ? When was the last time that you witnessed kids in China zooming around among Chinese pedestrians shoeing if this skill? Do they have a nationwide scooter skill school?
As my brother's Chinese wife was saying at Christmas, "Now I know why everyone takes drugs in Britain. It's because life sucks so much in this country".
Congratulations for adding to it. You are truly a hero.
You got all of your expertise from a YouTube video and your sister in law bring bitchy . So it’s not just Diane Abbott that’s stupid then? 😁 |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 13, 2023 16:28:07 GMT
As my brother's Chinese wife was saying at Christmas, "Now I know why everyone takes drugs in Britain. It's because life sucks so much in this country".
Congratulations for adding to it. You are truly a hero.
You got all of your expertise from a YouTube video and your sister in law bring bitchy . So it’s not just Diane Abbott that’s stupid then? 😁 Well dear, I'm hardly likely to buy you a fucking ticket to China to go and see for yourself, am I? |
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Post by Bentley on Jan 13, 2023 16:32:25 GMT
You got all of your expertise from a YouTube video and your sister in law bring bitchy . So it’s not just Diane Abbott that’s stupid then? 😁 Well dear, I'm hardly likely to buy you a fucking ticket to China to go and see for yourself, am I? China is a big place . Much bigger than your brain but far smaller than your ego and delusion . |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 13, 2023 18:24:33 GMT
We're such a free country eh?
This is a democratic dictatorship.
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Post by Bentley on Jan 13, 2023 18:40:57 GMT
We're such a free country eh? This is a democratic dictatorship. You need a bottle of vodka and a seat in the park to make that one work. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Jan 13, 2023 19:10:02 GMT
You spectacularly miss the point. Again. My car is a legal road vehicle These death traps are not Why do you support these illegal machines ? Yeah but they are illegal because people like you and many others on the thread want the government to make them illegal. No. They are illegal and I do not want them to be made legal because 1) they are gyroscopically unstable. Any engineer will tell you a two or less wheeled vehicle relies on the size and mass of the wheels which build up a moment of inertia that is critical to handling. The tiny wheels on these jokes are useless in this fashion 2) they have minimal placement for installation of lighting. And that which they do have violate the construction and use regulations that apply to EVERY vehicle legally permitted to be used onnUK roads. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Jan 13, 2023 20:13:06 GMT
They are not kids toys, kids scooters are the ones they propel by leg power , these dangerous scooters have electric motors and some can reach speeds of 20mph and above , they are silent not ridden by kids most of the time but by older morons , I have had more than near one miss as they come up behind you on the pavement you cant hear them, get hit and injured by one no insurance if the arrogant morons actually stop They weave in and out of the traffic, as far as I am aware they are illegal on the public highway only supposed to be ridden on private land in some areas of the country, you can hire them as far as I am aware they are legal , the others may not be Just to clarify, a number of local authorities have initiated pilot studies where you can rent one of the vehicles their partner supplies. They are just as unstable and violate the construction and use regulations for vehicle rear lighting just as much as the illegal purchased ones but the state has chosen to overlook that No other e-scooter is legal in the UK Legislation and directives introduced by the EU permit electrically powered bicycles and electrically assisted pedal cycles (pedelecs) to be ridden on UK roads and cycle paths. The rider must be 14 but needs no licence. The bicycle must meet all construction and use regulations in regard to placement of lights if fitted and reflectors. The electric power must cease assisting above 17mph but there are no limiters on the speed it may be pedalled at. And like every other bicycle in the UK, there is no speed limit. If you can pedal at 50 you can do 50 with impunity. I possess one such bicycle. A Giant Lafree Twist pedelec. Fully street legal. Others are available and in fact Halfords sells a fully legal pedelec alongside the illegal e scooters and are about the same price. |
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Post by Toreador on Jan 13, 2023 20:20:33 GMT
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 13, 2023 20:39:02 GMT
Yeah but they are illegal because people like you and many others on the thread want the government to make them illegal. No. They are illegal and I do not want them to be made legal because 1) they are gyroscopically unstable. Any engineer will tell you a two or less wheeled vehicle relies on the size and mass of the wheels which build up a moment of inertia that is critical to handling. The tiny wheels on these jokes are useless in this fashion 2) they have minimal placement for installation of lighting. And that which they do have violate the construction and use regulations that apply to EVERY vehicle legally permitted to be used onnUK roads. Yes I understand point one. I've never owned a scooter but a mate of mine who used to once said the small wheels made them pretty dangerous.
How about one wheel though?
Point two, well that's two points. Lights are now LED so they can be tiny, very bright and unlikely to fail. 2(ii) We are back the same argument. It is illegal so it must be kept illegal. Kinda circular in a way.
Anyway, even with the small wheels the kids have a lot of fun. You should have seen some of the stuff we did as kids. In China they are so into them the government builds a scooter tracks down flights of steps.
I think this country suffers from lack of experience in personal responsibility. The nanny state does not work. It just stupefies the population.
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Post by johnofgwent on Jan 14, 2023 10:58:44 GMT
Again Baron you spectacularly fuck up.
The construction and use regulations which any person involved in vehicle maintainance to kit car construction will know exist and where to get them dictate that a vehicles rear light must be set a certain distance above the ground so as to be seen by another road user with their head in the natural position as a road user be that cyclist, motorcyclist, car, van, truck driver or horse rider.
That’s the fucking LAW
If you want to change the law, go write to your MP
You want the law changed by civil disobedience to give your beloved fucking Chinese another way to fuck this country over
Fuck off
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