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Post by sandypine on Jan 12, 2023 20:54:05 GMT
Seems like he is an MP doing the job and asking the questions that he is in parliament to do. If there was no problem then the answers would be easy, unfortunately too much seems to be going wrong and cover up seems to be the name of the game. It seems incredible that people would support this. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2023 21:10:32 GMT
If its any help at least I get a reflection in a mirror…Why you have to make yourself a standing joke on this forum is known only to you. The biggest joke around here is you. You look and sound like an idiot and a troll most of the time and very few people take you seriously. And the only one who cant see that is you. If only you saw yourself as the rest of us see you, you'd blush with embarrassment. Cue incoming foul-mouthed troll post, lol |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 12, 2023 21:31:10 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2023 21:38:58 GMT
6K of likes and 0 dislikes states it all. Really? You don't seem to know much about how the internet works. lol |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jan 12, 2023 22:03:34 GMT
Seems like he is an MP doing the job and asking the questions that he is in parliament to do. If there was no problem then the answers would be easy, unfortunately too much seems to be going wrong and cover up seems to be the name of the game. It seems incredible that people would support this. I don't think anyone thinks questions are wrong. He's making allegations. And the allegations are easily disproven. Are there real questions to be asked about the various vaccines? Yes, of course, and reviewing the data should continue. That wasn't what he was doing. It's his language that's really got him in to trouble though, and he has no one to blame but himself. And now looks like he's lost the support of his local association. |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 13, 2023 1:53:40 GMT
Seems like he is an MP doing the job and asking the questions that he is in parliament to do. If there was no problem then the answers would be easy, unfortunately too much seems to be going wrong and cover up seems to be the name of the game. It seems incredible that people would support this. I don't think anyone thinks questions are wrong. He's making allegations. And the allegations are easily disproven. Are there real questions to be asked about the various vaccines? Yes, of course, and reviewing the data should continue. That wasn't what he was doing. It's his language that's really got him in to trouble though, and he has no one to blame but himself.
And now looks like he's lost the support of his local association. Yet another bunch of gutless arseholes who haven't got the balls to stand up and be counted. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jan 13, 2023 7:10:02 GMT
Or, alternatively, maybe they actually genuinely believe that he was wrong? Just a thought...
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Post by steppenwolf on Jan 13, 2023 7:10:55 GMT
Bridgen was only repeating information given to him by a consultant cardiologist - basically that the new mRNA vaccines can cause heart inflammation. As usual the government has moved very quickly to shut him up. Also as usual the BBC is referring to the information as "false". We don't know if the information is false. It's certainly known that these vaccines DO cause heart inflammation as a low level side effect, but the cardiologist is saying that it's far more common than acknowledged. The fact that the govt wants to shut down debate about this will only raise suspicions that he's right. If anyone listened to "More or Less" on BBC R4 yesterday they had a report on claims that the rates of sudden cardiac arrest had risen alarmingly recently. Typically the BBC attitude was to trash the source of the information. They even accused the source of being a climate change denier (  ) implying that they were just propagating "conspiracy theories". Interestingly there was also an interview on Tice (last Sunday) with a doctor who was saying that people should avoid the mRNA "booster" vaccines as they are potentially dangerous. He was plainly a very knowledgeable bloke but the BBC would dismiss him as a loony and the medical council are probably already moving to strike him off. My own opinion is that this should be properly investigated. He was not "only repeating information given to him". He was endorsing the view that vaccines were akin to the holocaust, which is highly ridiculous and a grotesque and offensive exaggeration. Had anyone in Labour said such a thing the headlines would all have been about Labour antisemitism. Without an immediate apology and retraction, Labour would have expelled him. To liken the vaccines to the holocaust is so utterly ridiculous. I have managed to survive unscathed being vaccinated 4 times. I doubt whether I could have survived the gas chambers even once. Just about everyone I know has been vaccinated and not one has thus far dropped dead yet as a result. This is not to say that the vaccines are necessarily entirely harmless, but does surely demonstrate that comparing them to the holocaust is a grotesque exaggeration of utterly idiotic proportions and offensive too, an insult to all those millions of holocaust victims and an offensive antisemitic comparison for sure in the eyes of most Jews Bollocks. These vaccines were approved very rapidly because the situation was deemed to be an emergency, so important things like long term testing were not done. Now that the country has a fairly good amount of herd immunity it's time to consider the use of the vaccines more carefully. All vaccines have to be evaluated on the basis that they're a balance of risk and benefit. There are ALWAYS risks with drugs and they should be taken into account before people are told to take them. If the risks outweigh the benefits then they shouldn't be used. In the case of the vaccines - especially the new mRNA ones - it seems that risks outweigh the benefits for certain age groups - especially for the young. That's all the whistle blower was saying in admittedly colourful language. It's very stupid of politicians to try to shut down discussion of this subject. It will only lead to suspicion. And if they're trying to stop the information getting out because it will lead to a lower vaccine uptake then their action has just made this even more likely. I'm certainly reconsidering taking any further "boosters" because these are considered to be of dubious value by several experts - especially when they're not tailored to a particular virus mutation. Messing about with the body's immune system is potentially very dangerous and can lead to several intractable conditions - many of which occur some time after the vaccination and are therefore difficult to prove are caused by vaccination. However, we know that we have a large number of excess deaths now (since the pandemic) and no one can explain them. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jan 13, 2023 7:56:50 GMT
Bollocks. These vaccines were approved very rapidly because the situation was deemed to be an emergency, so important things like long term testing were not done. Think that this explains how the emergency approval was given quite well. time.com/5917109/u-k-covid-vaccine-approved/ |
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Post by sandypine on Jan 13, 2023 9:45:18 GMT
Seems like he is an MP doing the job and asking the questions that he is in parliament to do. If there was no problem then the answers would be easy, unfortunately too much seems to be going wrong and cover up seems to be the name of the game. It seems incredible that people would support this. I don't think anyone thinks questions are wrong. He's making allegations. And the allegations are easily disproven. Are there real questions to be asked about the various vaccines? Yes, of course, and reviewing the data should continue. That wasn't what he was doing. It's his language that's really got him in to trouble though, and he has no one to blame but himself. And now looks like he's lost the support of his local association. An allegation? He repeated what an expert in the field said. Why would it be right to repeat an expert saying this is the best thing since sliced bread and it is perfectly safe but not to repeat what an equally qualified expert says that it is a danger to humanity? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2023 10:05:28 GMT
He was not "only repeating information given to him". He was endorsing the view that vaccines were akin to the holocaust, which is highly ridiculous and a grotesque and offensive exaggeration. Had anyone in Labour said such a thing the headlines would all have been about Labour antisemitism. Without an immediate apology and retraction, Labour would have expelled him. To liken the vaccines to the holocaust is so utterly ridiculous. I have managed to survive unscathed being vaccinated 4 times. I doubt whether I could have survived the gas chambers even once. Just about everyone I know has been vaccinated and not one has thus far dropped dead yet as a result. This is not to say that the vaccines are necessarily entirely harmless, but does surely demonstrate that comparing them to the holocaust is a grotesque exaggeration of utterly idiotic proportions and offensive too, an insult to all those millions of holocaust victims and an offensive antisemitic comparison for sure in the eyes of most Jews Bollocks. These vaccines were approved very rapidly because the situation was deemed to be an emergency, so important things like long term testing were not done. Now that the country has a fairly good amount of herd immunity it's time to consider the use of the vaccines more carefully. All vaccines have to be evaluated on the basis that they're a balance of risk and benefit. There are ALWAYS risks with drugs and they should be taken into account before people are told to take them. If the risks outweigh the benefits then they shouldn't be used. In the case of the vaccines - especially the new mRNA ones - it seems that risks outweigh the benefits for certain age groups - especially for the young. That's all the whistle blower was saying in admittedly colourful language. It's very stupid of politicians to try to shut down discussion of this subject. It will only lead to suspicion. And if they're trying to stop the information getting out because it will lead to a lower vaccine uptake then their action has just made this even more likely. I'm certainly reconsidering taking any further "boosters" because these are considered to be of dubious value by several experts - especially when they're not tailored to a particular virus mutation. Messing about with the body's immune system is potentially very dangerous and can lead to several intractable conditions - many of which occur some time after the vaccination and are therefore difficult to prove are caused by vaccination. However, we know that we have a large number of excess deaths now (since the pandemic) and no one can explain them. Its the "very colourful language" which is a big part of the problem here. To liken the vaccines to the holocaust is a ludicrous and offensive comparison, and any intelligent politician ought to have had the sense to make his point in a more sensible way. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2023 10:11:39 GMT
I don't think anyone thinks questions are wrong. He's making allegations. And the allegations are easily disproven. Are there real questions to be asked about the various vaccines? Yes, of course, and reviewing the data should continue. That wasn't what he was doing. It's his language that's really got him in to trouble though, and he has no one to blame but himself. And now looks like he's lost the support of his local association. An allegation? He repeated what an expert in the field said. Why would it be right to repeat an expert saying this is the best thing since sliced bread and it is perfectly safe but not to repeat what an equally qualified expert says that it is a danger to humanity? The expert in the field was being highly unprofessional in making such a ridiculous comparison, and the politician was an idiot for not recognising the outrageousness of this and instead repeating it with a form of words that endorsed it. I mean anyone with an ounce of intelligence knows that comparing anything but the murder of millions with the holocaust is very dodgy territory. That a professional politician doesn't seem to realise that casts huge doubt over his judgement in a way likely to only undermine any valid points he might be trying to make. |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 13, 2023 10:32:49 GMT
Or, alternatively, maybe they actually genuinely believe that he was wrong? Just a thought... I wouldn’t place money on it. And I am not sure why you are so frigging worried about a Tory MP who is not ANTI SEMITE, but ignore the ANTI SEMITE lefty wankers you support. And don’t give us your well worn shite of being a floating voter your very own posts prove otherwise. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 13, 2023 10:44:10 GMT
Seems like he is an MP doing the job and asking the questions that he is in parliament to do. If there was no problem then the answers would be easy, unfortunately too much seems to be going wrong and cover up seems to be the name of the game. It seems incredible that people would support this. Because you aren't allowed to ask awkward questions like "Is the vaccine safe".
If you do you're out of a job.
We can't have shares dropping and investors losing money, it's not about saving lives, it's about making money ... and LOADS of it.
BTW those vaccinated such as myself have had some of the worst Covid symptoms, I was flawed a few months ago with Covid, and here's me triple vaccinated.
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 13, 2023 10:49:21 GMT
I notice Kayne West has married. I have to admit it did tickle me when he said the Covid vaccine was the mark of the beast (did idiots believe that) Then he wore a jacket and on the back it said "White lives matter" .... LOL  |
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