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Post by andrewbrown on Jan 25, 2023 20:20:48 GMT
This gives asylum-seekers the right to travel to the UK through safe countries. I'm glad that you quoted this bit as I'm fed up with the number of times I've pointed this out on this forum, where the deniers say that if they've come through France that they have no right to seek asylum in the UK. It's tiresome. 🙄
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Post by Red Rackham on Jan 25, 2023 20:29:20 GMT
This gives asylum-seekers the right to travel to the UK through safe countries. I'm glad that you quoted this bit as I'm fed up with the number of times I've pointed this out on this forum, where the deniers say that if they've come through France that they have no right to seek asylum in the UK. It's tiresome. 🙄 I think you're probably bright enough to understand that Richard Tice was highlighting the fact that 1950's legislation is not fit for the 21st century. Who knew.
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Post by andrewbrown on Jan 25, 2023 20:30:54 GMT
Of course, but that wasn't the point that I was making.
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Post by Red Rackham on Jan 26, 2023 0:15:41 GMT
Of course, but that wasn't the point that I was making. Would you care to point out what point you were making?
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Post by andrewbrown on Jan 26, 2023 7:30:48 GMT
the number of times I've pointed this out on this forum, where the deniers say that if they've come through France that they have no right to seek asylum in the UK. I'm not sure I can make that clearer.
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Post by Orac on Jan 26, 2023 12:21:15 GMT
This gives asylum-seekers the right to travel to the UK through safe countries. I'm glad that you quoted this bit as I'm fed up with the number of times I've pointed this out on this forum, where the deniers say that if they've come through France that they have no right to seek asylum in the UK. It's tiresome. 🙄 ..and i have highlighted and corrected your silly strawman several times. They can seek asylum from any country they wish, but they have no right to enter the uk from France without the permission of the government.
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Post by andrewbrown on Jan 26, 2023 12:48:48 GMT
I'm glad that you quoted this bit as I'm fed up with the number of times I've pointed this out on this forum, where the deniers say that if they've come through France that they have no right to seek asylum in the UK. It's tiresome. 🙄 ..and i have highlighted and corrected your silly strawman several times. They can seek asylum from any country they wish, but they have no right to enter the uk from France without the permission of the government. I've merely quoted Richard Tice. He is factually correct.
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Post by jonksy on Jan 26, 2023 12:51:57 GMT
the number of times I've pointed this out on this forum, where the deniers say that if they've come through France that they have no right to seek asylum in the UK. I'm not sure I can make that clearer. So you haven’t got a point then? Thanks for clearing that one up.
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Post by jonksy on Jan 26, 2023 12:53:15 GMT
..and i have highlighted and corrected your silly strawman several times. They can seek asylum from any country they wish, but they have no right to enter the uk from France without the permission of the government. I've merely quoted Richard Tice. He is factually correct. They have NO FUCKING right to come here from Frogland. Without permission from the UK government FFS, that is why they are Illegal.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 26, 2023 17:05:29 GMT
I honestly think the Tories have more to fear from Reform than they do from Labour. What's going on at the moment reminds me of 20 years ago and the rise of UKIP. Initially the Tories openly laughed at Farage and UKIP, I remember Cameron famously calling UKIP fruitcakes and closet racists. He wasn't quite so glib when UKIP were polling 13% and supported mainly by Tory voters. Well that's how it's going with Reform. If Sunak doesn't move the government to the centre right, and he hasn't got much time left, then Tory voters will vote Reform. And In spite of the polls I think Labour will struggle to win the next election and that's largely due to the fact they have a grey, dull, unimaginative, boring pro EU pro immigrant leader who talks a lot, but says nothing. Whether or not Richard Tice wipes the floor with the Tories remains to be seen, but it's not up to Richard Tice, it's entirely up to Sunak. And I'll be honest, I don't think he's up to it. Sunak is as Boring as Starmer. As far as I'm concerned in both the cabinet and the shadow cabinet we have a bunch of talentless no hopers to vote for. I say lets give Richard Tice a chance. Can Reform really be any worse than a centrist Labour party or the centrist conservatives? I think Rishi is not doing too badly right now. He's trying to bust the unions and he is not wimping out like many would do. It's the unions who fuck up the industry, e.g. the railways would run much more efficiently if the management didn't have to get union permission for every improvement they try and make. Rishi knows they will burn out at some point. It's like every bastard is trying to go on strike so eventually the rest of us will understand they are taking the piss and start to move against them, much as Lady Thatcher did with Scargill.
Tice is a jerk who wants to increase nurses pay by cutting people's benefits, which are struggling right now. A train driver gets £65 000 PA, the average nurse is paid £54 500 PA*. People on universal credit are being paid pence above the min wage for totally shit jobs, so if anyone is having a hard time it is they. Also one other thing. Try as they might, the left have not found any dirt on Rishi. His biggest crime to date was being photoed with Johnson pouring beer. That was more like blackmail I suppose.
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Post by om15 on Jan 26, 2023 17:52:35 GMT
This is quite interesting, compared to Ricky and Sir Kneel Allot Richard Tice is on the money.
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Post by andrewbrown on Jan 26, 2023 20:50:26 GMT
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Post by jonksy on Jan 26, 2023 21:29:07 GMT
Just more lefty woke bollocks that you and your ilk fall for...,..They have no fucking right to come to the UK unless they apply to the UK government first The ones at fault are your beloved EUSSR who shove them upon us as they had already reached a safe country. How many safe countries did they have to pass through to get to the shores of Frogland? FFS grow a pair and face reality.
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Post by andrewbrown on Jan 26, 2023 22:08:31 GMT
Unable to read the article. Just shouts "lefty woke". Unable to debate the points. 🙄
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Post by Orac on Jan 26, 2023 22:18:10 GMT
Just more lefty woke bollocks that you and your ilk fall for...,..They have no fucking right to come to the UK unless they apply to the UK government first Indeed - doing something illegal is another way of saying 'doing something you have no right to do'.
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