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Post by andrewbrown on Jan 2, 2023 16:39:42 GMT
That was something that I didn't say and don't believe, so why ask? The question that I asked was clear about your allegation that more would vote leave. I wanted to know if this was something that you had read, or something that you made up. You haven't yet answered. I just read the room, it's generally the best way to get a balance.
I have a varied variety of company, from family, friends, neighbours, at work and so on, the vast majority still support leaving the EU, even those who voted to remain at the time.
I use common sense to deduce that people are happy we left the EU, and have no desire to rejoin.
Unless you are going to use some ridiculous argument like 'I only associate with people who voted to leave the EU' ... lol ... you do realise people would laugh out loud if you suggested such a thing.  So, to summarise, it was something that you surmised from asking your mates, but there is no actual evidence of this. In that case, you should have stated that this was an opinion based on your anecdotal evidence, rather than trying to portray it as a fact. Rather disingenuous of you. |
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Post by Bentley on Jan 2, 2023 16:41:53 GMT
I was trying to be funny . The way I read the words sounded in my head like saying ‘smoke break ‘while having the fag in your mouth and lighting it . I alluded to them taking liberties . I’ll strike that one out if my joke book 😁👍 Maybe my sense ohf humour has taken a bashing today with all the lefty claptrap....LOL I don’t blame you for missing that lame joke 👍 |
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Post by Toreador on Jan 2, 2023 16:44:13 GMT
If the truth be known if we had another referendum there would be far more people voting to leave. Have you seen evidence of this, or have you just made this up? Probably no more evidence than you've seen that the vote would be to rejoin. |
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Post by Bentley on Jan 2, 2023 16:44:13 GMT
I just read the room, it's generally the best way to get a balance.
I have a varied variety of company, from family, friends, neighbours, at work and so on, the vast majority still support leaving the EU, even those who voted to remain at the time.
I use common sense to deduce that people are happy we left the EU, and have no desire to rejoin.
Unless you are going to use some ridiculous argument like 'I only associate with people who voted to leave the EU' ... lol ... you do realise people would laugh out loud if you suggested such a thing. So, to summarise, it was something that you surmised from asking your mates, but there is no actual evidence of this. In that case, you should have stated that this was an opinion based on your anecdotal evidence, rather than trying to portray it as a fact. Rather disingenuous of you. On the other hand , how much trust should we put into the poll? If a poll completely contradicts anecdotal evidence then why would anyone trust it? |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jan 2, 2023 16:47:07 GMT
Scale and weighting? 🤔
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Post by andrewbrown on Jan 2, 2023 16:48:05 GMT
Have you seen evidence of this, or have you just made this up? Probably no more evidence than you've seen that the vote would be to rejoin. The only evidence I've seen is the same as everyone else. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 2, 2023 16:51:40 GMT
I just read the room, it's generally the best way to get a balance.
I have a varied variety of company, from family, friends, neighbours, at work and so on, the vast majority still support leaving the EU, even those who voted to remain at the time.
I use common sense to deduce that people are happy we left the EU, and have no desire to rejoin.
Unless you are going to use some ridiculous argument like 'I only associate with people who voted to leave the EU' ... lol ... you do realise people would laugh out loud if you suggested such a thing. So, to summarise, it was something that you surmised from asking your mates, but there is no actual evidence of this. In that case, you should have stated that this was an opinion based on your anecdotal evidence, rather than trying to portray it as a fact. Rather disingenuous of you. The thread is based on 'no actual evidence', hence the reason I can just as easily say 'two thirds of uk would vote to leave'.
Unless we have a referendum we can all say what we want, because it's all based on personal opinion.
I suspect in the 2019 General Election when Johnson/Tories won a LANDSLIDE victory because they were the only party willing to deliver Brexit, gives you a good indication of reading the room.
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Post by Toreador on Jan 2, 2023 16:54:02 GMT
Probably no more evidence than you've seen that the vote would be to rejoin. The only evidence I've seen is the same as everyone else. They'd be bullshine Remnants. |
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Post by thomas on Jan 2, 2023 16:55:06 GMT
Probably no more evidence than you've seen that the vote would be to rejoin. The only evidence I've seen is the same as everyone else. Lets be honest with each other Andrew , despite the latest headlines , the evidence is uk wide , its till too close to call.
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Post by thomas on Jan 2, 2023 16:57:04 GMT
So, to summarise, it was something that you surmised from asking your mates, but there is no actual evidence of this. In that case, you should have stated that this was an opinion based on your anecdotal evidence, rather than trying to portray it as a fact. Rather disingenuous of you.
I suspect in the 2019 General Election when Johnson/Tories won a LANDSLIDE victory because they were the only party willing to deliver Brexit, gives you a good indication of reading the room.
I think that is an extremely fair comment , and begs the question if the tories for example do get their act together over the next few years regarding immigration and brexit promises , then labour could be once again in massive trouble despite the current anger with sunak and co.
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Post by see2 on Jan 2, 2023 16:57:40 GMT
I think you have failed to understand that for the EU, Brexit meant EU first consideration for the UK a very poor second. If the UK had the upper hand then there is little doubt that it would be UK first, end of. The UK had no perks being part of the EU, we were just useful cash contributors for their ideological World Supremacy.
They were getting ideas above their station, with talks of a European super-army, and World domination.
We had to bring them down to Earth with a thud.
It's clear to see without the forces of the UK they are crumbling, the House of Cards is falling, their 'useful idiots' seen the light.
Give it less than 10 years and they will be rebranded, Italy being the next to leave, they've had itchy feet for a few years now.
IMO you are way off beam here. 1. "There ideological world supremacy" is an accusation not a provable ambition. 2. Again, as above. Unless you can show the board verbatim proof that this was on the EU agenda. 3. All based on opinion. 4. The EU is having a hard time just as the UK and much of Europe and beyond is having. 5. IMO, the UK is more likely to rejoin the EU within the next two generations. If they don't then presumably Brexit was the right decision and everything in the UK will be good. So no problem there. |
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Post by Bentley on Jan 2, 2023 16:59:58 GMT
I think there’s an ointment for that . |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 2, 2023 17:03:01 GMT
The UK had no perks being part of the EU, we were just useful cash contributors for their ideological World Supremacy.
They were getting ideas above their station, with talks of a European super-army, and World domination.
We had to bring them down to Earth with a thud.
It's clear to see without the forces of the UK they are crumbling, the House of Cards is falling, their 'useful idiots' seen the light.
Give it less than 10 years and they will be rebranded, Italy being the next to leave, they've had itchy feet for a few years now.
IMO you are way off beam here. 1. "There ideological world supremacy" is an accusation not a provable ambition. 2. Again, as above. Unless you can show the board verbatim proof that this was on the EU agenda. 3. All based on opinion. 4. The EU is having a hard time just as the UK and much of Europe and beyond is having.
5. IMO, the UK is more likely to rejoin the EU within the next two generations. If they don't then presumably Brexit was the right decision and everything in the UK will be good. So no problem there. Thankfully it's only your 'IMO'.
More chance of Hell freezing over IMO.
... meanwhile back to reality.
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Post by Toreador on Jan 2, 2023 17:03:36 GMT
I think there’s an ointment for that . Blue unction. |
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Post by see2 on Jan 2, 2023 17:08:51 GMT
IMO you are way off beam here. 1. "There ideological world supremacy" is an accusation not a provable ambition. 2. Again, as above. Unless you can show the board verbatim proof that this was on the EU agenda. 3. All based on opinion. 4. The EU is having a hard time just as the UK and much of Europe and beyond is having.
5. IMO, the UK is more likely to rejoin the EU within the next two generations. If they don't then presumably Brexit was the right decision and everything in the UK will be good. So no problem there. Thankfully it's only your 'IMO'.
More chance of Hell freezing over IMO.
... meanwhile back to reality.
So no verbatim evidence with which to back up your claims ? |
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