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Post by thomas on Dec 30, 2022 16:12:24 GMT
i gave you a link the other day showing six well know economists worldwide who forecast the financial crash , with many voices in the uk as steve has suggested warning brown over the recklessness and casino gambling of the banks which he ignored.
Nouriel Roubini was the one given the most credibility, and I explained that he never made a forecast on the IFM. NO ONE DID, now either show me the verbatim proof that someone did, or let it go. Is that you standing in the darkened new labour cult room screaming at yourself once again? |
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Post by see2 on Dec 30, 2022 16:26:47 GMT
Nouriel Roubini was the one given the most credibility, and I explained that he never made a forecast on the IFM. NO ONE DID, now either show me the verbatim proof that someone did, or let it go. Is that you standing in the darkened new labour cult room screaming at yourself once again? Enough of stupid immature unproven opinions, you can all shove them as far as you can get them. Between you and your ilk you have robbed the country of just about all the decency shown in politics since Clem Attlee. Well guess what, at 84 I will not be the one to suffer, but you lot of overopinionated fools are very likely to LOL, you haven't exactly flourished since the loss of NL in 2010 LOL I think I will celebrate with a tot of Brandy before my tea and listen to a few of my favorite songs instead of trying to educate idiots  |
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Post by Steve on Dec 30, 2022 21:18:09 GMT
Thank you for proving my point, Even though it happened during the IFM it was a smaller housing bust than previous ones and was quite quickly resolved. It would likely have been resolved even quicker but for the IFM. So quickly resolved it got worse and worse by year? Strange idea of 'quickly resolved'. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2022 21:43:13 GMT
You'd defend absolutely anything if it was done by Blair like some kind of cult follower. You are for example one of the very few people around here stupid enough to still defend the Iraq War. And just to take your point on affordable housing. Helping a few more people to buy as opposed to providing more social housing for the many who cannot is a typical Tory-lite policy, and typically soft thatcherite. As ever you are convincing no one but yourself. There are always going to be millions who can never afford to buy. Affordable housing to rent is essential for these. Why should buying be the be all and end all? So typically Tory? Blairite 1. You start with a lie, your comment makes you look like a sad and sorrowful little child. 2. The truth of the Iraq war situation proving that you and most of the people around you are the stupid ones who have chosen to make the invasion a political war against NL. How pathetic. UN Res. 1483 22 May 2003 (Vote14-0-0) Recognized the US and the UK as occupying powers under international law, with legitimate authority in Iraq. Removed economic sanctions imposed during the Gulf War. Syria did not vote on the measure. 3.Rent in a council or housing association home - Shelter England Most rents charged by councils or housing associations are called social rents. Social rents are usually lower than rents for similar private rented properties. Council and housing association landlords can also charge up to 80% of market rents on some of their homes, usually new-build properties. This is called affordable rent.The people in Affordable Homes would have been paying rent for some form of housing anyway, so why not get something back after 25 years of payments? Only someone far enough left to merit the term extremist would post such drivel as you post while at the same time managing to regularly get so many things wrong in a post. You are defending Tory housing policy and the Iraq War in the same post. It was never a few more people being helped to buy that was the desperate need. The need for secure social housing to rent at affordable prices for millions was the need. But you and your lot chose to think like Tories re housing. Also, you are regularly rude, insulting, arrogant, blinkered with rose tinted spectacles and fundamentally dishonest. You think that everyone who disagrees with you is more of an extremist than you. You love to smear anyone on the left with such mislabelling. I think you are logically, intellectually, and morally challenged. Nothing more than Blair's apologist, champion, and mouthpiece on here. Which makes you very close to a thatcherite, and you certainly sound it re housing. You seem to think that anyone advocating more social housing to rent is some kind of extremist. You'd make a good stand up comedian if you werent so annoying. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2022 21:48:33 GMT
Is that you standing in the darkened new labour cult room screaming at yourself once again? Enough of stupid immature unproven opinions, you can all shove them as far as you can get them. Between you and your ilk you have robbed the country of just about all the decency shown in politics since Clem Attlee. Well guess what, at 84 I will not be the one to suffer, but you lot of overopinionated fools are very likely to LOL, you haven't exactly flourished since the loss of NL in 2010 LOL I think I will celebrate with a tot of Brandy before my tea and listen to a few of my favorite songs instead of trying to educate idiots The arrogant insults again. Clem Attlee would turn in his grave if he heard you. Labour was a genuine democratic socialist party under his tenure. His government nationalised the energy and water companies, as well as the railways. Today you call such things an example of extremism. You are not fit to lick Attlee's boots. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2022 22:01:23 GMT
Is that you standing in the darkened new labour cult room screaming at yourself once again? Enough of stupid immature unproven opinions.... You're going to shut up then are you? |
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Post by Vinny on Dec 30, 2022 22:04:08 GMT
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Post by Toreador on Dec 31, 2022 6:02:39 GMT
Is that you standing in the darkened new labour cult room screaming at yourself once again? Enough of stupid immature unproven opinions, you can all shove them as far as you can get them. Between you and your ilk you have robbed the country of just about all the decency shown in politics since Clem Attlee. Well guess what, at 84 I will not be the one to suffer, but you lot of overopinionated fools are very likely to LOL, you haven't exactly flourished since the loss of NL in 2010 LOL I think I will celebrate with a tot of Brandy before my tea and listen to a few of my favorite songs instead of trying to educate idiots Greensleeves? lol |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2022 7:47:07 GMT
Enough of stupid immature unproven opinions, you can all shove them as far as you can get them. Between you and your ilk you have robbed the country of just about all the decency shown in politics since Clem Attlee. Well guess what, at 84 I will not be the one to suffer, but you lot of overopinionated fools are very likely to LOL, you haven't exactly flourished since the loss of NL in 2010 LOL I think I will celebrate with a tot of Brandy before my tea and listen to a few of my favorite songs instead of trying to educate idiots Greensleeves? lol Slightly ageist humour |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2022 9:44:31 GMT
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Post by Steve on Dec 31, 2022 11:23:55 GMT
That was the second time, as linked earlier he first told him in 2002 |
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Post by see2 on Dec 31, 2022 12:42:53 GMT
Thank you for proving my point, Even though it happened during the IFM it was a smaller housing bust than previous ones and was quite quickly resolved. It would likely have been resolved even quicker but for the IFM. So quickly resolved it got worse and worse by year? Strange idea of 'quickly resolved'. Apart from the fact that it was part of the problem of the banking system breaking down (Banks gave mortgages thanks to Thatcher) it had fuck all to do with Cable's nonsense. It was all caused by the IFM. No meltdown then no serious problems. Your straw boat never stood a chance against reality. Your exaggerated nonsense about worse by year, well so too did the knock on problems of the IFM. A good idea would be for you to stfu until you drop your ingrained bias and engaged your mind objectively to the problem. |
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Post by see2 on Dec 31, 2022 12:56:23 GMT
Enough of stupid immature unproven opinions, you can all shove them as far as you can get them. Between you and your ilk you have robbed the country of just about all the decency shown in politics since Clem Attlee. Well guess what, at 84 I will not be the one to suffer, but you lot of overopinionated fools are very likely to LOL, you haven't exactly flourished since the loss of NL in 2010 LOL I think I will celebrate with a tot of Brandy before my tea and listen to a few of my favorite songs instead of trying to educate idiots The arrogant insults again. Clem Attlee would turn in his grave if he heard you. Labour was a genuine democratic socialist party under his tenure. His government nationalised the energy and water companies, as well as the railways. Today you call such things an example of extremism. You are not fit to lick Attlee's boots. I will never match you for ill informed arrogance. I have already posted that this country needed a large dose of Socialism following WWII. The country got it but the obvious reality is that the country did not want to continue down that path. You are not fit to be in modern Labour politics because your history is to make way for Conservative governments, as already proven. Thus making it harder for working people and their families. You falsely (as already proven, Iraq for instance) attack the moderates in your own party. You and your mouthy lot are traitors within the party. |
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Post by thomas on Dec 31, 2022 13:17:59 GMT
Is that you standing in the darkened new labour cult room screaming at yourself once again? Enough of stupid immature unproven opinions, you can all shove them as far as you can get them. Many people across the uk feel the same about toy blair and new labour. Apart from the fact they havent been able to get elected once in the last 12 years at westminster , and fifteen at holyrood , with corbyn only being in charge a small part of that time , its clear what the voters think of them. Including the recent furore over blairs knighthood.
The only immature unproven opinons , along with historical revision is coming from you. I will of course be voting against labour as i have done every single election since 1997 when the next vote is cast .
They cannot be trusted with power , as we see at every level of governance from council level upwards.
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