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Post by Red Rackham on Dec 27, 2022 0:24:56 GMT
counter terrorism experts you'd know it's as fucking stupid as you can get. Well spit it out Steve what are you telling us? You don't fight terrorism by pushing the overwhelming innocent majority of an identifiable community into the hands of the niche terrorist element as Red wants us to do. It has never ever worked. You fight it by isolating the terrorist niche from their sources of supply and recruits. But MI5 say of the 43,000 people on a watchlist 90% of them are Islamist terror suspects. That's more than a 'niche' wouldn't you say. Or in your opinion is MI5 wrong? If so, lets see your evidence. It must be said your MO is as ever, expected. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Dec 27, 2022 9:33:37 GMT
Unless there's a court order saying so.
But, as ever, it's a matter of who and where and how and under what circumstances.
Same as it's not illegal to kill someone.
If you look at the activities that are prohibited the only one she was breaking was the praying. There is nothing stopping you standing on a street corner minding your own business. The Activities prohibited by the Order are:
i Protesting, namely engaging in any act of approval or disapproval or attempted act of
approval or disapproval, with respect to issues related to abortion services, by any means.
This includes but is not limited to graphic, verbal or written means, prayer or counselling,
ii Interfering, or attempting to interfere, whether verbally or physically, with a Robert Clinic
service user, visitor or member of staff,
iii Intimidating or harassing, or attempting to intimidate or harass, a Robert Clinic service
user, visitor or a member of staff,
iv Recording or photographing a Robert Clinic service user, visitor or member of staff or
v Displaying any text or images relating directly or indirectly to the termination of
pregnancy.
Nope, you've missed protesting. As I said her presence was her protest.
You must realise that you've lost the argument when your only fall back position is the patently ridiculous “She was just minding her own business” while standing in exactly the same place that she was previously convicted of doing anything but, three times previously?
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Post by Steve on Dec 27, 2022 10:50:31 GMT
You don't fight terrorism by pushing the overwhelming innocent majority of an identifiable community into the hands of the niche terrorist element as Red wants us to do. It has never ever worked. You fight it by isolating the terrorist niche from their sources of supply and recruits. So what happens if that goes bottom up? Like they are fed a constant supply of new recruits? Which they will be if you keep attacking a group on masse for the actions of a few. Never ever be your enemy's recruiting sergeant. |
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Post by Steve on Dec 27, 2022 10:51:49 GMT
You don't fight terrorism by pushing the overwhelming innocent majority of an identifiable community into the hands of the niche terrorist element as Red wants us to do. It has never ever worked. You fight it by isolating the terrorist niche from their sources of supply and recruits. But MI5 say of the 43,000 people on a watchlist 90% of them are Islamist terror suspects. That's more than a 'niche' wouldn't you say. Or in your opinion is MI5 wrong? If so, lets see your evidence. It must be said your MO is as ever, expected. Do the maths. |
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Post by sheepy on Dec 27, 2022 10:54:19 GMT
So what happens if that goes bottom up? Like they are fed a constant supply of new recruits? Which they will be if you keep attacking a group on masse for the actions of a few. Never ever be your enemy's recruiting sergeant. How was I attacking a group on masse, I was asking you the question of what happens when it goes bottom up, which for sure it will, we all know you live near Hastings as you know I live in Hastings, now we are having a reversal of roles, you are the fox and the hunt is closing in. |
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Post by Steve on Dec 27, 2022 11:07:23 GMT
Which they will be if you keep attacking a group on masse for the actions of a few. Never ever be your enemy's recruiting sergeant. How was I attacking a group on masse, I was asking you the question of what happens when it goes bottom up, which for sure it will, . . .. I didn't say you (sheepy) were attacking them on masse. Red was and I used the illustrative 'if you do X then Y will happen' form of words. As for bottom up that is exactly what will happen if you take a problem of a few thousand that hate Western governments and make it a problem of a few million that think so. Which is exactly what will happen if those that want to persecute all muslims have their evil way. Worse it would become a problem of the UK becoming a pariah state in the world that no one wants to trade with. . . . we all know you live near Hastings as you know I live in Hastings, now we are having a reversal of roles, you are the fox and the hunt is closing in. Is that a threat sheepy, sure looks like it. Please explain. |
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Post by sheepy on Dec 27, 2022 11:08:43 GMT
How was I attacking a group on masse, I was asking you the question of what happens when it goes bottom up, which for sure it will, . . .. I didn't say you (sheepy) were attacking them on masse. Red was and I used the illustrative 'if you do X then Y will happen' form of words. As for bottom up that is exactly what will happen if you take a problem of a few thousand that hate Western governments and make it a problem of a few million that think so. Which is exactly what will happen if those that want to persecute all muslims have their evil way. Worse it would become a problem of the UK becoming a pariah state in the world that no one wants to trade with. . . . we all know you live near Hastings as you know I live in Hastings, now we are having a reversal of roles, you are the fox and the hunt is closing in. Is that a threat sheepy, sure looks like it. Please explain. You sound a little paranoid Steve, now answer the question, what happens when it goes bottom up? |
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Post by Steve on Dec 27, 2022 11:10:01 GMT
So you won't explain, how unsurprising.
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Post by sheepy on Dec 27, 2022 11:13:26 GMT
So you won't explain, how unsurprising. No its you that needs to explain, I have nothing to explain. Are you going to answer the question or not, as you are an expert on terrorism and liaise with terror experts, allegedly. |
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Post by Steve on Dec 27, 2022 11:18:18 GMT
So you won't explain, how unsurprising. No its you that needs to explain, I have nothing to explain. Are you going to answer the question or not, as you are an expert on terrorism and liaise with terror experts, allegedly. Not what I said and you need to explain what looks like a threat - last chance. |
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Post by sheepy on Dec 27, 2022 11:19:57 GMT
No its you that needs to explain, I have nothing to explain. Are you going to answer the question or not, as you are an expert on terrorism and liaise with terror experts, allegedly. Not what I said and you need to explain what looks like a threat - last chance. You made out you were an expert on terrorism, last chance for what? you were the one making underhanded threats to other members not me. "You know what Red, that abusive pile of trash you just posted about me has given me an idea. One you won't like" |
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Post by Steve on Dec 27, 2022 11:23:58 GMT
I said I have worked with terrorism experts, I have. I'm also smart enough to have listened to what they said. Does that make me an expert? No but it means I likely know more than fuckwits that think the best way to deal with a problem is to act evilly and make it a far bigger problem.
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Post by sheepy on Dec 27, 2022 11:26:52 GMT
I said I have worked with terrorism experts, I have. I'm also smart enough to have listened to what they said. Does that make me an expert? No but it means I likely know more than fuckwits that think the best way to deal with a problem is to act evilly and make it a far bigger problem. That's not what I asked, so stop the squirming, didn't those terrorism experts tell you what happens when it goes bottom up? I will tell you then, when they feck up, it will be left to the rest of us to pick up the pieces. |
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Post by Steve on Dec 27, 2022 11:40:23 GMT
Any sensible person takes action to avoid it going 'bottom up' seems you think different.
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Post by sheepy on Dec 27, 2022 11:43:14 GMT
Any sensible person takes action to avoid it going 'bottom up' seems you think different. I don't consider you a sensible person and secondly it does go bottom up, often in your global dream factory. |
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