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Post by Vinny on Dec 23, 2022 13:24:11 GMT
Stefan Kizko was fitted up, he spent years in prison for a crime he didn't commit.
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Post by Steve on Dec 23, 2022 13:35:55 GMT
Do behave, he wasn't fitted up. He was guilty and got off on a technicality. And your proof that he was guilty is exactly what? Your reading of this morning's tea leaves?
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Post by Handyman on Dec 23, 2022 14:01:41 GMT
Do behave, he wasn't fitted up. He was guilty and got off on a technicality. I really weird person to say the least, been convicted a number of times before the Dando case, impersonating police claimed to be a relative of Freddie Mercury, sexual assault etc but that has no bearing on the Dado murder, the Forensic Scientist found a minute trace of gunpowder his pocket a year later
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Post by Handyman on Dec 23, 2022 14:07:06 GMT
Stefan Kizko was fitted up, he spent years in prison for a crime he didn't commit. He should never have been charged let alone convicted , however back then the rules did not cater for vulnerable people such as him with learning difficulties being protected when interviewed by Police , today that would never be allowed
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Post by Steve on Dec 23, 2022 14:31:50 GMT
Stefan Kizko was fitted up, he spent years in prison for a crime he didn't commit. He should never have been charged let alone convicted , however back then the rules did not cater for vulnerable people such as him with learning difficulties being protected when interviewed by Police , today that would never be allowed True but juries still get played by the Police/CPS Overwhelmingly the Police and CPS are good people who at an individual level want to see justice and fair play. However at an institutional level the motivations are to seek convictions whatever and however and there are not enough institutional counter balances to even remotely consider reintroducing irreversible punishments such as the death penalty.
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Post by Toreador on Dec 23, 2022 14:54:41 GMT
He should never have been charged let alone convicted , however back then the rules did not cater for vulnerable people such as him with learning difficulties being protected when interviewed by Police , today that would never be allowed True but juries still get played by the Police/CPS Overwhelmingly the Police and CPS are good people who at an individual level want to see justice and fair play. However at an institutional level the motivations are to seek convictions whatever and however and there are not enough institutional counter balances to even remotely consider reintroducing irreversible punishments such as the death penalty. There's sometimes pressure from a higher authority to arrest.
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Post by Handyman on Dec 23, 2022 16:20:34 GMT
I don't know if that happens or not, as for Steve's comments LOB, the CPS will not go to trail unless they think they have a reasonable chance of securing a conviction be it a minor or major Criminal Offence
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Post by patman post on Dec 23, 2022 16:21:50 GMT
....and look at what the briefs had to say: Andrew Langdon KC, defending Boboc, said: ‘The defendant is a young man. He remains extremely sorry for the murder of Mr McKenzie. ‘He is a 22-year-old looking at life sentence of an unimaginable length.’ Richard Smith KC, defending Chers, said there was no direct evidence knives were taken to the scene of the murders. ‘He came here because his business in Romania was failing because of Covid-19,’ he added.Another bunch who are wrong for this country. And an ideal story to deflect the thread away from the report of the crime of an indigenous multiple murderer druggie and child rapist…
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Dec 23, 2022 17:30:56 GMT
They should all be hung. On pay-per-view TV with all cash raised to go to victims of crime.
What's not to like?
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Post by Steve on Dec 23, 2022 23:29:47 GMT
I don't know if that happens or not, as for Steve's comments LOB, the CPS will not go to trail unless they think they have a reasonable chance of securing a conviction be it a minor or major Criminal Offence Yes and they are measured on and incentivised on (amongst other things) conviction rate. As I said, institutionally motivated to get convictions whatever and however.
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Post by Steve on Dec 23, 2022 23:31:04 GMT
They should all be hung. On pay-per-view TV with all cash raised to go to victims of crime. What's not to like? Your conversion to the doctrine of Iran's regime?
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Dec 24, 2022 8:52:43 GMT
Because your wishy-washy liberalism is working so well isn't it.
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Post by Steve on Dec 24, 2022 18:10:52 GMT
Because your wishy-washy liberalism is working so well isn't it. And your wished for Iranian ways are? Maybe you should ponder why countries with death penalties have such high crime (incl murder) rates
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Dec 24, 2022 18:41:27 GMT
I'm not interested in other countries, Stevie - just this one.
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Post by Steve on Dec 24, 2022 22:30:47 GMT
I'm not interested in other countries, Stevie - just this one. You just want to import other countries methods
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